Should the ethics report on Gaetz be released?

Should the ethics report on Gaetz be released ?

  • No, now that he's out of Congress it doesn't matter.

    Votes: 3 4.2%

  • No, it will make he and Trump look bad and who cares at this point

    Votes: 2 2.8%

  • Yes, a cabinet level pick should be fully vetted

    Votes: 37 51.4%

  • Yes, it will find it's way out in the end and better to deal with it now than have it linger

    Votes: 8 11.1%

  • Pie continues to rule

    Votes: 22 30.6%
  • Total voters
    72
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whodeycin85 said:
Can I ask you a question? If your in a war, and the fighting is taking place in the air, are going to fight with ground troops or are you gonna fight on the same level in the air?
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No dog in the hunt, fight the battle in the air first and then at same level on the ground after Air superiority accomplished.
You cannot hold ground if you don't have troops on the ground. Air first, ground second but integrated. Clear the areas that there is no threat.
 
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#78
lawgator1 said:
The timing is of course very suspicious. Gaetz spared possible major embarrassment by getting the AG pick.

It also seems like it will get leaked eventually. If it's bad, let it happen now and Trump can jettison him. If it's bad and comes out when he's actually AG, it will be a fiasco.
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While this sounds like more lawfare, yet again, I say yes. Release it all right after all the other members of congress that has needed the slush fund to buy them out of trouble for sexual harassment.
 
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lawgator1 said:
What about accountability for Gaetz? Should he be able to avoid it by switching jobs, especially moving into such an important job?
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LouderVol said:
just because it doesn't rise to the level of criminal prosecution doesn't mean there isn't a violation of the code of ethics in Congress.
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Just because there is a violation of a Congressional code of ethics does not mean the Government should be able to break their own rules to disclose those violations when the rules do not otherwise allow for it.

Gaetz may be the biggest d-bag in all of American politics. He may deserve everything he would get if the report was extraordinarily damning and was released. I could care less about Gaetz; to me, this is about the role of Government in our lives, and the Government's ability to destroy lives while ignoring and acting contrary to their own rules and processes.

Releasing this report absent any provision allowing for it is textbook authoritarianism . That is a destroyed republic. That is everything we have been warned against regarding trump.

I don't know the rules related to the ethics complaint or its release. But if there are not processes in place to release it, even if Gaetz just "played the system" to keep it from being released, the Government should not release it; they should not have the right to pick and choose to whom their rules apply. Don't like it? Change the rules.

It is stunning how willing some here are to give Government more power to break the Government's own rules to destroy those with whom they disagree. I would have thought this was a issue where both the left and the right would have reached a consensus geared toward the protection of the individual, and not the state, but unfortunately tribalism seems to have prevailed in this aspect of our lives as well.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
No dog in the hunt, fight the battle in the air first and then at same level on the ground after Air superiority accomplished.
You cannot hold ground if you don't have troops on the ground. Air first, ground second but integrated. Clear the areas that there is no threat.
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And if the enemy doesn't deploy ground troops, are you going to stop deploy them because that is the way the battle should be fought?
 
#82
#82
Johnson says the report should not be released and that the public's right to know is irrelevant.

Not. A. Good look.
 
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Speaker Mike Johnson makes his decision on whether Matt Gaetz's Ethics report on underage sex allegations should be released​


Republican Speaker Mike Johnson said Friday he does not want the House Ethics Committee to release its report on Matt Gaetz.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Speaker Johnson says whether he supports release of Gaetz ethics probe

Following Donald Trump's nomination of Gaetz to serve as attorney general on Wednesday, there have been increasing calls from both Republicans and Democrats for the report to be released publicly.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
 
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#88
whodeycin85 said:
Wasn't he held accountable by criminal investigation???? Being investigated by an unethical committee about ethics is hilarious..these are the same one Insider trading, a slush fund to pay of sex scandals, allowed a porn to be filmed in chambers..bottom line is innocent to proven guilty...he was not proven guilty...anything else is more political attacks...even the own links do t say he had sex with a minor..he paid for a friend to bring the friends GF to a party ..nowhere does it says at the time he knew she was underage...you can assume..and that it..it's a nothing burger I told.hard evidence comes out..if ever
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Is English your second language?
 
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whodeycin85 said:
And if the enemy doesn't deploy ground troops, are you going to stop deploy them because that is the way the battle should be fought?
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Modern day battlefield tactics and deployments are situationally dependant. Objectives and mission statements are planned 72 - 96 hours in advance. Mission, goals and objectives are supported by in some cases by all service branches. Boots on the ground and air superiority are not separate they are part of a Combined Forces strategy in support of a joint command. Sometimes you even have foreign military. Eyes and ears provided by Satellite imagery or drones play into it as well.
Not to insult you are asking some generalized questions that cannot be answered without knowing the AO, the objective, or the structure of the Allied forces.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
What do the rules say?? Do they say it should be released for someone who is no longer in Congress?
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Watching you guys nervously dancing around the release of a report about a potential child trafficking, drug using member of congress is hilarious. Dudes tapped to be the AG and you don't want to know, because "wUts dA rUleZ sAY?"

Y'all's hypocrisy is on brand.
 
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#93
See the facts below, but let the witch hunt continue ...

From the article:

NBC News had reported in October that the investigation into Gaetz had stalled, according to attorneys who have represented witnesses and people who have been subpoenaed or have spoken to investigators. The attorneys briefed about aspects of the case said the probe stalled over concerns about the credibility of two key witnesses or a lack of direct evidence implicating Gaetz, who has denied all wrongdoing.

www.nbcnews.com

DOJ tells Matt Gaetz that he won’t be charged in sex trafficking probe, his lawyers say

Prosecutors had spent months investigating allegations that Gaetz was part of a scheme that led to the sex trafficking of a 17-year-old girl.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

 
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Septic said:
Watching you guys nervously dancing around the release of a report about a potential child trafficking, drug using member of congress is hilarious. Dudes tapped to be the AG and you don't want to know, because "wUts dA rUleZ sAY?"

Y'all's hypocrisy is on brand.
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So wait you want the rules broken to what..expose a bias ethics report that didn't have enough evidence with an eye freaking witness to warrant criminal charges...this is another political smear job..just like when you says Trump's a convicted felon when in fact the charges will be overturned and dropped...so more pearl clutching from the weak left
 
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Septic said:
Watching you guys nervously dancing around the release of a report about a potential child trafficking, drug using member of congress is hilarious. Dudes tapped to be the AG and you don't want to know, because "wUts dA rUleZ sAY?"

Y'all's hypocrisy is on brand.
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I would think if they had anything it would have came out already, the left and some on the right despise Gaetz.

To say the departments of corruption haven’t framed or done some what questionable things to people is just naive. Take Epstein we all knew he would be killed in prison and wow he hung himself…. The conspiracies run wild with whom and how etc.

Take Trump on Epstein island, if they had it…. It would have been front page news.

Take J6’rs they caught them all, mostly, but yet can’t determine who traveled and spent time on Epstein island.

Hunter Bidens laptop….

How many more examples does one need to know that our departments are corrupt and will ruin lives, take no prisoners when needed.

Ruby Ridge, the Bundy standoff….. it goes on and on.
 
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Cod said:
I would think if they had anything it would have came out already, the left and some on the right despise Gaetz.

To say the departments of corruption haven’t framed or done some what questionable things to people is just naive. Take Epstein we all knew he would be killed in prison and wow he hung himself…. The conspiracies run wild with whom and how etc.

Take Trump on Epstein island, if they had it…. It would have been front page news.

Take J6’rs they caught them all, mostly, but yet can’t determine who traveled and spent time on Epstein island.

Hunter Bidens laptop….

How many more examples does one need to know that our departments are corrupt and will ruin lives, take no prisoners when needed.

Ruby Ridge, the Bundy standoff….. it goes on and on.
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That's why I think it DOES have very bad information in it. If it did not, they'd release it, and say nothing to see here !!

The only reason not to release it is pressure from Trump. But as you say, he has enough enemies it seems likely it will eventually find it's way to the public.
 
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lawgator1 said:
That's why I think it DOES have very bad information in it. If it did not, they'd release it, and say nothing to see here !!

The only reason not to release it is pressure from Trump. But as you say, he has enough enemies it seems likely it will eventually find it's way to the public.
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Bull. If it had bad info in it all the wild horses in hell could not have kept it secret.

Probably a bunch of "we heard this" and that witness said such and such, but could not be substiated. Just enough to give the left fodder and keep the arguments and smears still going. Kavanaugh all over again.
 
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GroverCleveland said:
Bull. If it had bad info in it all the wild horses in hell could not have kept it secret.

Probably a bunch of "we heard this" and that witness said such and such, but could not be substiated. Just enough to give the left fodder and keep the arguments and smears still going. Kavanaugh all over again.
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Easy way to settle this.

Release it.
 
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