Should Imus Get the Boot?

Should Imus be fired for his racist remarks?

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#26
#26
He and Michael Richards should get together and go bowling (or burn a cross?).
 
#27
#27
I don't think he should lose his job over his comments. While I don't condone his comments, he does have freedom of speech. I have always been one who chooses to not watch/listen to something I find offensive. But there are those who I feel wait on things like this to be said so they can cause a stir about it. We as Americans can choose who and what we listento/watch. Those who didn't like it need to change the channel. If we all worried about what everybody said about us all the time that wouldn't leave time for anything else. But during the game I did think the Rutgers girls looked a little rough but I didn't call them any names. To each his own.
 
#28
#28
Imus is a tool, that's why I don't listen to his drivel and that's why I couldn't give a rat's patoot what happens to him...
 
#29
#29
hmanvolfan said:
Imus is a tool, that's why I don't listen to his drivel and that's why I couldn't give a rat's patoot what happens to him...
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I'm pretty much in the same boat, but it is a little ironic watching people become outraged at comments from a guy who is supposed to be outrageous. I think what he said was demeaning and stupid, but I guarantee you I could turn on MTV or BET and hear similarly demeaning comments within about 5 minutes.

I guess it's all about the source.
 
#30
#30
I initially thought he would weather the storm, but I am guessing that his mouth has finally caught up with him.
 
#31
#31
Lexvol said:
I initially thought he would weather the storm, but I am guessing that his mouth has finally caught up with him.
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Were this not simply part of a consistent pattern, Imus would be fine. However, factoring in the past remarks by Imus and Sid Rosenberg, he may have foisted himself on his own pitard.
 
#32
#32
Aside from the current controversy, is his time done? He is so critical and glib about everyone and everything that, even prior to this, I was telling people that I thought Imus had simply become a bitter old man.
 
#33
#33
lawgator1 said:
Aside from the current controversy, is his time done? He is so critical and glib about everyone and everything that, even prior to this, I was telling people that I thought Imus had simply become a bitter old man.
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The few times I listened to him, he reminded me of our own Paul Finebaum (although Finebaum is nowhere near as talented and I'm not complimenting Imus).

It's a constant barrage of criticism and cynism.
 
#34
#34
I could care less about the guy keeping his job.

There are some kids who get to spend time at a ranch Imus sponsors though, who would probably hope the money keeps coming in...

Senseless comment by a guy who's been around long enough to know better.
 
#35
#35
Know better? What does that mean? Do the Rutgers players not look like "nappy headed hoes"?
 
#38
#38
allvol123 said:
Know better? What does that mean?
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It means that Imus has been around long enough to know that such a descriptor could only be percieved in the most negative of ways. And it means he should have known better.

Literally speaking, Maya Angelou's hairstyle would not be described as high fashion. I'm willing to bet Don Imus would not have said the same of Angelou on the air.
 
#39
#39
allvol123 said:
So you will say no...even though you do not know. Hmm...
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O+W=H chooses not to make such an idiotic, offensive statement because he is enured with a sense of decorum and class. Imus, on the other hand, is a guy who spends 4 hours a day playing to the lowest common denominator. He, and the bottom feeders who listen to him, are Exhibit #2 in the dumbing down of American culture, Howard Stern being Exhibit #1.
 
#40
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hatvol96 said:
O+W=H chooses not to make such an idiotic, offensive statement because he is enured with a sense of decorum and class. Imus, on the other hand, is a guy who spends 4 hours a day playing to the lowest common denominator. He, and the bottom feeders who listen to him, are Exhibit #2 in the dumbing down of American culture, Howard Stern being Exhibit #1.
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Never heard him for the most part and don't wish to. But I don't believe he should be fired for the comments unless his ratings go down and the people that employ him start losing money or don't make the amount of money they are shooting for.
 
#41
#41
orange+white=heaven said:
It means that Imus has been around long enough to know that such a descriptor could only be percieved in the most negative of ways. And it means he should have known better.
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So people should refrain from comments if they will be perceived in a negative way?
 
#42
#42
The debate you guys are having here is in some sense misplaced by the fact that its a private employer. We aren't talking about whether the government should censor Imus, which would raise clear-cut First Amendment and free speech rights. The network can sack him if they choose to over this and they don't even have to have a good reason (employment contract aside) as long as their reason is not illegal, i.e. that he's black. Oops.
 
#43
#43
lawgator1 said:
The debate you guys are having here is in some sense misplaced by the fact that its a private employer. We aren't talking about whether the government should censor Imus, which would raise clear-cut First Amendment and free speech rights. The network can sack him if they choose to over this and they don't even have to have a good reason (employment contract aside) as long as their reason is not illegal, i.e. that he's black. Oops.
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Yep.
 
#44
#44
lawgator1 said:
The debate you guys are having here is in some sense misplaced by the fact that its a private employer. We aren't talking about whether the government should censor Imus, which would raise clear-cut First Amendment and free speech rights. The network can sack him if they choose to over this and they don't even have to have a good reason (employment contract aside) as long as their reason is not illegal, i.e. that he's black. Oops.
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Can't help but agree with you on this one. However, he should not be fired because people that are not regular listeners to his show are offended. That makes business sense, right?
 
#45
#45
oklavol said:
Yes he insulted a bunch of female basketball players. If they want to take Don Imus off the air, all they have to do is stop listening to his radio program.

Free speech in this country is being influenced too much by political correctness. I prefer people having the freedom to put their foot in the mouth. Its a lot more entertaining that way. If its insulting or offensive then turn the channel off the program.
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Free speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences, and racism has not a thing to do with political correctness. :blink:
 
#46
#46
cibai said:
Free speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences, and racism has not a thing to do with political correctness. :blink:
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This issue has everything to do with political correctness. He has not barred any person of color from a job opportunity, the right to own property, or liberty. Therefore, he has actual done nothing "racist." He simply made a disturbing comment. Nothing more. Nothing less.
 
#47
#47
cibai said:
Free speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences, and racism has not a thing to do with political correctness. :blink:
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Agree with point #1

Not as sure on point #2 -- racism is racism; however, there have been many PC overreactions that claim racism where it likely doesn't exist (eg. Southwest Airlines case of "Eenie, Meenie, Minie, Moe")
 
#48
#48
volinbham said:
there have been many PC overreactions that claim racism where it likely doesn't exist
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My personal favorite was the poor guy that got fired because he used the word "niggardly" and people were too stupid to open up a dictionary.
 
#49
#49
It's not easy or fun accepting the fact that no matter who you are or what demographic you belong to, someone isn't going to like you.

Some people seem to have an innate need to feel superior to other groups of people. As to whether this guy should be disciplined for what he's done, that's up to his employers.

I don't like what this guy said, but if we start firing or prosecuting or otherwise going after everybody who makes a disparaging remark about some other group, we'd live in an over-sanitized society and that doesn't sit well with me.

Thoughts?
 
#50
#50
GAVol said:
My personal favorite was the poor guy that got fired because he used the word "niggardly" and people were too stupid to open up a dictionary.
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Dictionaries are intentionally biased toward the literate.
I mean, how can you look it up if you don't know how to spell it...
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