Should Crompton play Saturday?

#52
#52
BeenThere09 said:
Jonathan Crompton is the best quarterback for the University of Tennessee right now. No matter which way you cut the cake. His play hasnt translated yet, i understand that. But, I know first hand that he has all of the intangibles to give us success. The road NS has taken us on has not been much better. So, why not let the guy who has the most POTENTIAL to finish the season and get his mistakes out of the way. This season doesnt have much hope left anyways. Also, if he plays against a poor Wyoming, this could be just what he needs in the perspective of confidence.
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Exactly!

Just like everyone else, I wanted Crompton out after the Auburn game. We got what we wanted with Stephens and he is playing as well as he can. Unfortunately he is a backup quarterback, and I'm assuming was recruited to be just that. Having him on the field has done nothing positive for us, if anything our offensive production has gone down (every week we continue to slide further back in the total offense rankings). Crompton's poor performance was through continual mistakes. Stephens lack of production is because he just doesn't have top level skills. I would rather go with Crompton's POTENTIAL and hope that he can get it going, than go with Stephens who has it going and just isn't good enough...
 
#53
#53
If the team really wants to win out and have a chance to play in a bowl game, the only time Crompton should see the field is if he is carrying water to the other guys.
 
#55
#55
Its kind of hard to believe that someone so heralded coming out of high school can just suddenly not be able to play football. You guys on here sure did praise him enough. Why? Because that was the thing to do ? No, because we all thought he was going to be a dang good qb. He has too much upside not to play. When yall were on his bandwagon that seemed to be evident.
 
#57
#57
Why not to play Crompton
1. Can't HAND OFF
2. Consistently throws low.
3. Has no touch
4. Has no pocket presence
5. Has poor accuracy (high % of passes in dirt or bleachers)
6. Stares down primary receiver
7. Unable to check down through progression
8. Demonstrates poor judgement on when to throw ball away, when to tuck and run, when to slide, when to challenge a linebacker head on after you've already had a concussion a few weeks earlier.

no point in continuing
 
#58
#58
tennesseegirl said:
What about Coleman? I mean can he be any worse than what we have now ? At least give him a shot , we have nothing to lose anyway .
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Stevens is doing okay and has shown pretty good arm strength and other than last Saturday, hasn't made a lot of mistakes. What would help him more than anything is getting better play from the offensive line, both run blocking and pass blocking as well as better play from his receivers.
 
#59
#59
BeenThere09 said:
Its kind of hard to believe that someone so heralded coming out of high school can just suddenly not be able to play football. You guys on here sure did praise him enough. Why? Because that was the thing to do ? No, because we all thought he was going to be a dang good qb. He has too much upside not to play. When yall were on his bandwagon that seemed to be evident.
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Sorry Mr. Crompton, but no your son cant come out to play this saturday, regardless of his "upside". His ship has sailed, just be thankful he will get a degree at no cost to you.
 
#60
#60
herkyvol said:
Why not to play Crompton
1. Can't HAND OFF
2. Consistently throws low.
3. Has no touch
4. Has no pocket presence
5. Has poor accuracy (high % of passes in dirt or bleachers)
6. Stares down primary receiver
7. Unable to check down through progression
8. Demonstrates poor judgement on when to throw ball away, when to tuck and run, when to slide, when to challenge a linebacker head on after you've already had a concussion a few weeks earlier.

no point in continuing
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1. Handoff on fault of qb AND rb
2.Throws low due to set depth of linemen. (Happens to NS as well, and would happen to Coleman)
3. Touch needs work
4.Best pocket presence of the qbs. NS actually steps into the rush.
5.Back to the scenario with the linemen.
6.How can he get to 2 or 3 with little to know time plus hands in his face?
7.Thrown more balls to rb than NS. ie. pass to Creer that Creer fumbled.
8.Needs work
 
#62
#62
Nashvols said:
Exactly!

Just like everyone else, I wanted Crompton out after the Auburn game. We got what we wanted with Stephens and he is playing as well as he can. Unfortunately he is a backup quarterback, and I'm assuming was recruited to be just that. Having him on the field has done nothing positive for us, if anything our offensive production has gone down (every week we continue to slide further back in the total offense rankings). Crompton's poor performance was through continual mistakes. Stephens lack of production is because he just doesn't have top level skills. I would rather go with Crompton's POTENTIAL and hope that he can get it going, than go with Stephens who has it going and just isn't good enough...
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Did you happen to miss the series Crompton was playing in the USC game? Getting balls batted at the line, staring down the primary receiver, throwing into triple coverage, holding the ball WAY too long, etc. If it were one or even two problems maybe they could be ironed out but there is too many issues to get fixed.
 
#63
#63
if anyone deserves a shot at some pt it should be coleman. stephens and coleman are the future for now and should get the snaps. sorry crompton, but you have had your chance and have shown that you can't get it done as a starter and as a backup. so if anyone should transfer it should be you. maybe to dII.
 
#64
#64
BeenThere09 said:
1. Handoff on fault of qb AND rb
2.Throws low due to set depth of linemen. (Happens to NS as well, and would happen to Coleman)
3. Touch needs work
4.Best pocket presence of the qbs. NS actually steps into the rush.
5.Back to the scenario with the linemen.
6.How can he get to 2 or 3 with little to know time plus hands in his face?
7.Thrown more balls to rb than NS. ie. pass to Creer that Creer fumbled.
8.Needs work
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You not driving tonite are you Been?
 
#65
#65
Jewbaccah said:
I dunno I say play Berry--I cannot watch either of them
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Berry could probably be used as Gerald Jones was used. If you are thinking of using him as the primary QB though that would not work. Without the threat of throwing downfield, defenses would simply stack the line and he wouldn't be able to run.
 
#66
#66
e-spice said:
Berry could probably be used as Gerald Jones was used. If you are thinking of using him as the primary QB though that would not work. Without the threat of throwing downfield, defenses would simply stack the line and he wouldn't be able to run.
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I have thrown with EB, and he can sling it a little.
 
#67
#67
I will say Crompton looked better last week than normal which is to say, he looked a little bit like a football player. He seemed to be smarter when depressed. He does have better pocket abilities then Stephens, he can throw on the run etc--But in the end he is slightly retarded--and in retarded I mean not to insult anyone with a down syndrome relative--I mean it in a much worse way.
 
#69
#69
blupotato said:
if anyone deserves a shot at some pt it should be coleman. stephens and coleman are the future for now and should get the snaps. sorry crompton, but you have had your chance and have shown that you can't get it done as a starter and as a backup. so if anyone should transfer it should be you. maybe to dII.
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Without better line play, both pass blocking and run blocking, they could Joe Montana behind center and he would have problems also. Changing to Coleman isn't going to solve anything without getting better play from the line.
 
#70
#70
Jewbaccah said:
I will say Crompton looked better last week than normal which is to say, he looked a little bit like a football player. He seemed to be smarter when depressed. He does have better pocket abilities then Stephens, he can throw on the run etc--But in the end he is slightly retarded--and in retarded I mean not to insult anyone with a down syndrome relative--I mean it in a much worse way.
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Quote of the day!

Later- need to change my shorts!
 
#71
#71
i am not saying put coleman in, but better yet not put crompton in. stephens is not nearly as bad as crompton has been but you are right, with out any protection no one looks good. but from what i have witnessed all season crompton is not a winner and since stephens and coleman are both the same class why not open up the competition. crompton is a lost cause to me all together.
 
#72
#72
BeenThere09 said:
I have thrown with EB, and he can sling it a little.
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I seriously doubt that would have had the result you hope it would. Playing QB, learning the offense, getting on the same page with receivers, reading defenses, and simply having the arm strength to throw good passes takes more than a few days to pick up. Berry is incredible at what he does and practices every day - playing safety. He might even be somewhat effective at receiver but not as full time QB. Berry playing QB in touch football in a park against some frat boys is a world away from playing against an SEC caliber defense with an all out blitz in your face while 100,000 people are watching.
 
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#73
#73
and i say that because our season is already lost and why not give the two guys who need the most game experience a majority of the snaps. i would be prefectly happy if crompton was only put in the game if both stephens and coleman are injured. he should never step on the field again unless he is at least 3rd string.
 
#74
#74
Jewbaccah said:
But in the end he is slightly retarded--and in retarded I mean not to insult anyone with a down syndrome relative--I mean it in a much worse way.
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There are many, many less offensive ways of expressing what you intend to express. Maybe use a thesaurus and get a few ideas? We insist, really.
 
#75
#75
e-spice said:
I seriously that would have had the result you hope it would. Playing QB, learning the offense, getting on the same page with receivers, reading defenses, and simply having the arm strength to throw good passes takes more than a few days to pick up. Berry is incredible at what he does and practices every day - playing safety. He might even be somewhat effective at receiver but not as full time QB.
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lol. i was by no means saying to put him in the game. That would be a terrible mistake. I was just throwing out a simple thought.
 
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