Shoop: "First no huddle defense"

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GAVol said:
This seems to fly in the face of conventional wisdom which is to show your defense as late as possible. Not sure I get the point of lining up fast.
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I guess it is possible to be lined up and when or while VT calls the play then shift. Slow the offense down and might confuse them. Hope it works out this way. If so Shoop is really a football genius.
 
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GAVol said:
This seems to fly in the face of conventional wisdom which is to show your defense as late as possible. Not sure I get the point of lining up fast.
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The same could be said for the offense that lines up fast.

The thing that is interesting about the HUNH offense is that while the teams line up fast most of the time the QB has to run down the line making sure everyone understands the play, telling some to move to another position. And in reality how they line up looks a lot the same each time. Sometimes there is really nothing much for the defense to adjust to anyway.

The only time is it really hurry up is when the offense obviously had more than one play called the last time they huddled and just line up in the correct formation and go.
 
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All the HUNH offense really does is allow for a team to run more plays over the course of a game. The end result is that the other team gets a lot of time with the ball as well. And unless both teams have incredible defenses ends up with lots of points scored and wild swings in the game in terms of points scored. This offense is why you see teams jump ahead only to have the other team catch back up later no matter how far behind they get. They are given more opportunities to do so.

Unlike the "slow down huddle up snap ball at 2 second" offense that slows down the game and minimizes the time that the opponent has the ball - which tends to result with every offensive possession being very important.

The interesting part is always the situation where a team that is traditionally HUNH offense needs to take time to protect a lead late. Most of them tend to have difficulty with the "slow down" approach and thus keep giving the ball back to the other team which increases their chance of losing.
 
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2ez2dv8 said:
I'm thinking Thursday's performance didn't sit well with the Mad Scientist. He'll release the hounds and bring pressure all night. Barnett and Kongbo each get a sack if not two. Sutton houses one
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We held App St to 13 points -- each of their 11 2015 Wins was with 28 points or more (and 1 of 2 losses was with 27 points).

Our D did very, very well, from that points-perspective.

DeBord needs to pick it up with his OL.
 
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Would it make sense to go a series by series think especially on the d-line? Like Barnett,vickers,O'Brian, Kongbo, on one series. The next Vereen, KMac,Tuttke, Lewis.
Keep the d-line fresh as we can. Take JRM of special teams and tell him to be ready to play 65-70 snaps. Figured it will be easier to sub defensive backs on the back end then it will the line. All you football X's and O's guys could this work?
 
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VolinDalton said:
Or we could just use the 'I'm injured' defense like Bowling Green or App State...

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*Can't get the following App State gif to link, but here it is if you're interested...

App State Player Has Serious Injury During Overtime
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I like how Hurd is like "wtf?...really?"
 
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This sounds to me like the football version of the classic game of chicken. I like it. Should be very interesting to watch.
 
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This means we need to fake injuries like App state to give our guys a rest if we need to lol
 
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I think Shoop is going to have a number of D package groups designed to match up with VT's offensive personnel packages and be prepared to get them in the game as required. The idea being VT will not be able to get personnel mismatches which is goal of HUNH.
 
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Don't get too excited over this. James Franklin/Shoop said the same thing when he was at Vanderbilt in 2013.

Vanderbilt to run tempo defense versus Ole Miss/

"We're going to run a tempo defense this year, which no one has ever heard of," Franklin said jokingly. "You're going to have to wait and see."
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Ole Miss won the game 39-35, putting up 489 yards of offense. They ran 84 plays and averaged 5.8 yards per play.

Game Stats
 
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I would dearly love to see the Vols D get the read on VT's O and stifle them all game long. Hear me, God. Amen, and pass the smoked turkey.
 
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ETV said:
I believe this is in reference to the amount of plays the VOLS defense expects to see from VT.

85 to 90 plays expected from the Hokies will leave little time for subs and our guys need to be alert. Hope we don't end up gassed.
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Offensive pace can't be sustained if there are frequent personel substitutions , the ref will stand over the ball to allow the 'D' to make substitutions. Example : app st game.
 
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Might be a little like what we saw against UF in 2001. DL's moving around pre-snap, LB's shooting gaps.
 
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:aggressive:Don't know what it means, but Shoop has some fire in his belly and some swagger. I kinda like it.:aggressive:
 
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Maybe Shoop shouldn't have said that he was going to have the first no huddle, tempo defense. Now VT can plan on that and tweak their game plan even more. Would have been better to not expect that and only figure it out when they showed up at the LOS on their second play and we were already set.
 
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Maybe we should have played only second stringers the first game so they didn't see a single starter. Better yet how about we play the scout team from here on so that no one can have any idea what kind of talent we have......or I don't know, we could just show up and win a football game and not worry about playing chess before pregame warmups have even started.
 
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