Shifty Shiff

[MontyPython]

---it is a shame people did not have this mentality when Biden and the Dems with all of their bogus, corrupt lawsuits against Trump squandering 10 of millions of dollars committing lawfare simply to interfere in the 2024 election in a criminal attempt to keep Trump from being elected for the 3rd time.


---it there is documented proof schiff lied and committed crimes, which there appears to be, then he should be investigated and charge like they would investigate and charge you or I ...... no one is above the law. schiff already is a known congenital liar.


----ny ag James lied on mtg documentation, it is said she even claimed her father as her husband to get favorable deals.

Heh.

Lest ye forget:

April 21, 2020

WASHINGTON (AP) — A bipartisan Senate report released Tuesday affirms the U.S. intelligence community’s conclusions that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election in a far-ranging influence campaign approved by Russian President Vladimir Putin and aimed at helping Donald Trump win the White House.

The report rejects Trump’s claims that the intelligence community was biased against him when it concluded that Russia had interfered on his behalf in the election. It says instead that intelligence officials had specific information that Russia preferred Trump in the election, that it sought to denigrate Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton and that Putin had “approved and directed aspects” of the Kremlin’s influence campaign.

The heavily-redacted report from the Senate Intelligence Committee is part of the panel’s more than three-year investigation into Russian interference. Intelligence agencies concluded in January 2017 that Russians had engaged in cyber-espionage and distributed messages through Russian-controlled propaganda outlets to undermine public faith in the democratic process, hurt Clinton and aid Trump, who ultimately became president.

Trump has repeatedly questioned the assessment, which was also endorsed by former special counsel Robert Mueller in his report last year. Mueller concluded that Russian interference was “sweeping and systematic,” but he did not allege a criminal conspiracy between Russia and the Trump campaign.

Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Richard Burr, R-N.C., said in a statement that his panel “found no reason to dispute” the intelligence community’s conclusions, saying they reflected strong tradecraft and analytical reasoning.

and

December 6, 2022 6:30pm EST

Trump Organization entities found guilty on all counts of tax fraud; Trump brands 'witch hunt,' vows appeal​

 

[jmacvols1]

Heh.

Lest ye forget:

April 21, 2020

WASHINGTON (AP) — A bipartisan Senate report released Tuesday affirms the U.S. intelligence community’s conclusions that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election in a far-ranging influence campaign approved by Russian President Vladimir Putin and aimed at helping Donald Trump win the White House.

The report rejects Trump’s claims that the intelligence community was biased against him when it concluded that Russia had interfered on his behalf in the election. It says instead that intelligence officials had specific information that Russia preferred Trump in the election, that it sought to denigrate Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton and that Putin had “approved and directed aspects” of the Kremlin’s influence campaign.

The heavily-redacted report from the Senate Intelligence Committee is part of the panel’s more than three-year investigation into Russian interference. Intelligence agencies concluded in January 2017 that Russians had engaged in cyber-espionage and distributed messages through Russian-controlled propaganda outlets to undermine public faith in the democratic process, hurt Clinton and aid Trump, who ultimately became president.

Trump has repeatedly questioned the assessment, which was also endorsed by former special counsel Robert Mueller in his report last year. Mueller concluded that Russian interference was “sweeping and systematic,” but he did not allege a criminal conspiracy between Russia and the Trump campaign.

Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Richard Burr, R-N.C., said in a statement that his panel “found no reason to dispute” the intelligence community’s conclusions, saying they reflected strong tradecraft and analytical reasoning.

and

December 6, 2022 6:30pm EST

Trump Organization entities found guilty on all counts of tax fraud; Trump brands 'witch hunt,' vows appeal​

we are finding out from Gabbard, not Durham, there was collusion, treason taking place. Did the Senate committee have the information Gabbard has uncovered? Durham did not. Years of investigation and millions dollar spent by Durham and Gabbard found in 6 months what Durham could not find in years.

 

[jmacvols1]

 

[MontyPython]

we are finding out from Gabbard, not Durham, there was collusion, treason taking place. Did the Senate committee have the information Gabbard has uncovered? Durham did not. Years of investigation and millions dollar spent by Durham and Gabbard found in 6 months what Durham could not find in years.

Lawdy. Trump could piss on your head, tell you it's raining and you'd believe him.

You honestly believe the conclusion made by the REPUBLICAN Chair and Committee previously - that Russia tried to influence our 2016 election - was wrong?

Per PBS:

Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard ramped up efforts to sow doubt about the investigation that found Russia interfered in the 2016 election. Gabbard pushed claims about former President Obama and called it the “most egregious weaponization and politicization of intelligence in American history.” Nick Schifrin reports.

Read the Full Transcript​

Notice: Transcripts are machine and human generated and lightly edited for accuracy. They may contain errors.

• Geoff Bennett:
  And, Nick, stay with us as we shift our focus to the White House now, where Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard ramped up efforts to sow doubt about the investigation that found that Russia interfered in the 2016 election.
  Today, Gabbard briefed reporters on what she called the most egregious weaponization of intelligence in American history.
  Tulsi Gabbard, U.S. Director of National Intelligence: They manufactured findings from shoddy sources. They suppressed evidence and credible intelligence that disproved their false claims. They disobeyed traditional tradecraft intelligence community standards and withheld the truth from the American people.
• Geoff Bennett:
  So, manufactured findings from shoddy intelligence, what is she talking about?
• Nick Schifrin:
  Tulsi Gabbard today released a previously classified House intelligence report that questioned the intelligence community assessment about 2016 that Vladimir Putin preferred Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton.
  The report was written by Republican staff in 2017 and amended in 2020 and concludes — quote — "The judgment that Putin developed a clear preference for candidate Trump and aspired to help his chances of victory did not adhere to intelligence community standards because it came from information that was 'unclear, of uncertain origin, potentially biased or implausible.'"
  That echoes a document released by CIA Director John Ratcliffe last month, you see it right there, that accused former CIA Director John Brennan of coming into conclusion that Putin preferred Trump with a — quote — "highly compressed production timeline, stringent compartmentalization and excessive involvement of agency heads, all of which led to departures from standard practices."
  Geoff, I have talked to former intelligence officials who worked on all of these reports, and they stand by the conclusion that Putin preferred Trump, but they do acknowledge that that specific conclusion was from a single source and there was a debate inside the intelligence community about the level of confidence about that conclusion.
  I also talked to Democrats on the House intelligence community today, and they say that that report from Republican staff was — quote — "politicized" and that the fundamental facts are not in dispute, that the Russians interfered in 2016 and displayed a clear preference for Donald Trump.
  But Republicans, Gabbard today, John Ratcliffe, director of CIA, in the past have said that the source for that specific conclusion about Putin for Trump was unreliable, was biased. And they're using that specific point to question what President Trump, of course, calls the entire Russian hoax.
• Geoff Bennett:
  Well, zoom out for us, because President Trump won the presidency twice. There's a question as to why he's relitigating this now, but is there a question as to what the Russians actually did back in 2016?
• Nick Schifrin:
  Let's go through a few of the reports that the U.S. government has produced over the years into what exactly the Russians did in 2016.
  The first, of course, is the Robert Mueller report. That's a two-yearlong investigation he concluded of a Russian campaign of disinformation and hacking and leaking and concluded — quote — "The Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome" — unquote.
  A bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee report, co-led by then-committee vice chair Marco Rubio, of course, now secretary of state and national security adviser, also released that report and they concluded — quote — "The committee did not discover any significant analytic tradecraft issues in the preparation or final presentation of the intelligence community assessment."
  In addition to those two reports, Geoff, special counsel John Durham appointed, of course, during the first Trump administration, found no evidence to undermine the intelligence community assessment. And the Department of Justice inspector general Michael Horowitz concluded there was no political bias or improper motivation in that specific early 2017 intelligence community document.
  Gabbard, by the way, also recently tried to argue that there was no Russian influence because there was no Russian meddling in the actual vote totals, which, of course, has never been the intelligence community assessment at all.
• Geoff Bennett:
  Right.
• Nick Schifrin:
  And taking all these reports together, Mark Warner, the vice chair of the Senate intelligence community, today accused Gabbard of releasing a partisan report to please President Trump and the report today risks some of the most sensitive sources and methods of our intelligence community.
• Geoff Bennett:
  So what then is the administration proposing to do about any of this?
• Nick Schifrin:
  Well, Gabbard specifically said that she had referred President Obama personally to the Department of Justice for any kind of criminal investigation.
  And, yesterday, when asked actually about Jeffrey Epstein, President Trump said this:
  Donald Trump, President of the United States: It's sort of a witch-hunt, just a continuation of the witch-hunt. The witch-hunt that you should be talking about is, they caught President Obama absolutely cold. After what they did to me, and whether it's right or wrong, it's time to go after people. Obama's been caught directly.
  So people say, oh, a group. It's not a group. It's Obama. And what they did in 2016 and in 2020 is very criminal. It's criminal at the highest level. So that's really the things you should be talking about.
• Nick Schifrin:
  Yesterday, President Obama's spokesman, Geoff, said — quote — "Nothing undercuts the conclusion Russia worked to influence the 2016 presidential election."
• Geoff Bennett:
  Nick Schifrin, our thanks to you, as always.
• Nick Schifrin:
  Thank you.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Nothing will ever happen. Its the hidden message there in case it went over your head.

LOL

You use your little orphan Annie decoder ring, Gomer?

 

[jmacvols1]

Lawdy. Trump could piss on your head, tell you it's raining and you'd believe him.

You honestly believe the conclusion made by the REPUBLICAN Chair and Committee previously - that Russia tried to influence our 2016 election - was wrong?

Per PBS:

Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard ramped up efforts to sow doubt about the investigation that found Russia interfered in the 2016 election. Gabbard pushed claims about former President Obama and called it the “most egregious weaponization and politicization of intelligence in American history.” Nick Schifrin reports.

Read the Full Transcript​

Notice: Transcripts are machine and human generated and lightly edited for accuracy. They may contain errors.

• Geoff Bennett:
  And, Nick, stay with us as we shift our focus to the White House now, where Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard ramped up efforts to sow doubt about the investigation that found that Russia interfered in the 2016 election.
  Today, Gabbard briefed reporters on what she called the most egregious weaponization of intelligence in American history.
  Tulsi Gabbard, U.S. Director of National Intelligence: They manufactured findings from shoddy sources. They suppressed evidence and credible intelligence that disproved their false claims. They disobeyed traditional tradecraft intelligence community standards and withheld the truth from the American people.
• Geoff Bennett:
  So, manufactured findings from shoddy intelligence, what is she talking about?
• Nick Schifrin:
  Tulsi Gabbard today released a previously classified House intelligence report that questioned the intelligence community assessment about 2016 that Vladimir Putin preferred Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton.
  The report was written by Republican staff in 2017 and amended in 2020 and concludes — quote — "The judgment that Putin developed a clear preference for candidate Trump and aspired to help his chances of victory did not adhere to intelligence community standards because it came from information that was 'unclear, of uncertain origin, potentially biased or implausible.'"
  That echoes a document released by CIA Director John Ratcliffe last month, you see it right there, that accused former CIA Director John Brennan of coming into conclusion that Putin preferred Trump with a — quote — "highly compressed production timeline, stringent compartmentalization and excessive involvement of agency heads, all of which led to departures from standard practices."
  Geoff, I have talked to former intelligence officials who worked on all of these reports, and they stand by the conclusion that Putin preferred Trump, but they do acknowledge that that specific conclusion was from a single source and there was a debate inside the intelligence community about the level of confidence about that conclusion.
  I also talked to Democrats on the House intelligence community today, and they say that that report from Republican staff was — quote — "politicized" and that the fundamental facts are not in dispute, that the Russians interfered in 2016 and displayed a clear preference for Donald Trump.
  But Republicans, Gabbard today, John Ratcliffe, director of CIA, in the past have said that the source for that specific conclusion about Putin for Trump was unreliable, was biased. And they're using that specific point to question what President Trump, of course, calls the entire Russian hoax.
• Geoff Bennett:
  Well, zoom out for us, because President Trump won the presidency twice. There's a question as to why he's relitigating this now, but is there a question as to what the Russians actually did back in 2016?
• Nick Schifrin:
  Let's go through a few of the reports that the U.S. government has produced over the years into what exactly the Russians did in 2016.
  The first, of course, is the Robert Mueller report. That's a two-yearlong investigation he concluded of a Russian campaign of disinformation and hacking and leaking and concluded — quote — "The Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome" — unquote.
  A bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee report, co-led by then-committee vice chair Marco Rubio, of course, now secretary of state and national security adviser, also released that report and they concluded — quote — "The committee did not discover any significant analytic tradecraft issues in the preparation or final presentation of the intelligence community assessment."
  In addition to those two reports, Geoff, special counsel John Durham appointed, of course, during the first Trump administration, found no evidence to undermine the intelligence community assessment. And the Department of Justice inspector general Michael Horowitz concluded there was no political bias or improper motivation in that specific early 2017 intelligence community document.
  Gabbard, by the way, also recently tried to argue that there was no Russian influence because there was no Russian meddling in the actual vote totals, which, of course, has never been the intelligence community assessment at all.
• Geoff Bennett:
  Right.
• Nick Schifrin:
  And taking all these reports together, Mark Warner, the vice chair of the Senate intelligence community, today accused Gabbard of releasing a partisan report to please President Trump and the report today risks some of the most sensitive sources and methods of our intelligence community.
• Geoff Bennett:
  So what then is the administration proposing to do about any of this?
• Nick Schifrin:
  Well, Gabbard specifically said that she had referred President Obama personally to the Department of Justice for any kind of criminal investigation.
  And, yesterday, when asked actually about Jeffrey Epstein, President Trump said this:
  Donald Trump, President of the United States: It's sort of a witch-hunt, just a continuation of the witch-hunt. The witch-hunt that you should be talking about is, they caught President Obama absolutely cold. After what they did to me, and whether it's right or wrong, it's time to go after people. Obama's been caught directly.
  So people say, oh, a group. It's not a group. It's Obama. And what they did in 2016 and in 2020 is very criminal. It's criminal at the highest level. So that's really the things you should be talking about.
• Nick Schifrin:
  Yesterday, President Obama's spokesman, Geoff, said — quote — "Nothing undercuts the conclusion Russia worked to influence the 2016 presidential election."
• Geoff Bennett:
  Nick Schifrin, our thanks to you, as always.
• Nick Schifrin:
  Thank you.

Russia may have TRIED to influence the election and did not. The issue today is OBAMA making up lies that Russia did for a fact hack the election.....and still lying about it to this day. Obama wanted the ic report to be changed to reflect the hoax to then use against it against Trump.













you believe whatever the liberal tells you to believe.

 

[MontyPython]

Russia may have TRIED to influence the election and did not. The issue today is OBAMA making up lies that Russia did for a fact hack the election.....and still lying about it to this day. Obama wanted the ic report to be changed to reflect the hoax to then use against it against Trump.

How about some links to back this up.

P.S. Tulsi Gabbard or Big Orange Liarppotamus don't count.

 

[jmacvols1]

How about some links to back this up.

P.S. Tulsi Gabbard or Big Orange Liarppotamus don't count.

1 minute mark

 

[Zues1]

1 minute mark

But it's Fox News. It must be lies. Msnbc and CNN ain't reporting this. Must be lies.

 

[MontyPython]

1 minute mark

LMAO. Seriously? A Fox news report that says Obama told Brennan to investigate Russia interfering with the election?

Umm... Yep. Obama is guilty.

Damn our ex President for trying to protect election integrity and launching an investigation that proved 100% true.

Wait... OK: Side Bet!

How much you wanna wager that exactly 0.00 happens to Obama moving forward legally? I'm predicting exactly no convictions because Obama did nothing wrong.

Put your money where your mouth is my man.

 

[jmacvols1]

LMAO. Seriously? A Fox news report that says Obama told Brennan to investigate Russia interfering with the election?

Umm... Yep. Obama is guilty.

Damn our ex President for trying to protect election integrity and launching an investigation that proved 100% true.

Wait... OK: Side Bet!

How much you wanna wager that exactly 0.00 happens to Obama moving forward legally? I'm predicting exactly no convictions because Obama did nothing wrong.

Put your money where your mouth is my man.

Obama created the lie Russia hacked the election and the liberal media takes its talking points from Obama/Dems...

 

[MontyPython]

Obama created the lie Russia hacked the election and the liberal media takes its talking points from Obama/Dems...

did russia hack the 2016 election?

The question of whether Russia "hacked" the 2016 U.S. presidential election is complex and depends on the specific meaning of "hacked." Based on available evidence, here’s a clear and concise breakdown:

U.S. intelligence agencies, including the FBI, CIA, and NSA, concluded in a January 2017 report that Russia conducted a multifaceted campaign to influence the 2016 election. This campaign included:

Cyberattacks: Russian state-sponsored actors, specifically groups linked to Russian intelligence (e.g., Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear), hacked into Democratic National Committee (DNC) servers, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC), and personal email accounts of individuals like John Podesta, Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman. These hacks led to the theft of thousands of emails, which were later leaked via platforms like WikiLeaks to damage the Clinton campaign.

Disinformation Campaigns: Russia orchestrated social media manipulation, using troll farms (e.g., the Internet Research Agency) to spread divisive propaganda, promote pro-Trump narratives, and amplify misinformation. This aimed to sow discord and influence voter sentiment.

Probing Election Systems: There’s evidence Russia attempted to access state-level election infrastructure, such as voter registration databases, in at least 21 states. However, no evidence confirms that vote tallies were altered or that voting machines were directly compromised.

The term "hacked the election" can be misleading if it implies changing vote counts or directly rigging the election outcome. No definitive evidence supports such claims. Instead, Russia’s actions were focused on undermining confidence in the democratic process, influencing public opinion, and creating political chaos.

Key points:

The Mueller Report (2019) and subsequent Senate Intelligence Committee findings confirmed Russia’s interference through hacking and disinformation.

No evidence shows Russia directly altered election results, but their actions aimed to favor Donald Trump and undermine Hillary Clinton.

The U.S. responded with sanctions, expulsions of Russian diplomats, and cybersecurity enhancements.

 

[jmacvols1]

did russia hack the 2016 election?

The question of whether Russia "hacked" the 2016 U.S. presidential election is complex and depends on the specific meaning of "hacked." Based on available evidence, here’s a clear and concise breakdown:

U.S. intelligence agencies, including the FBI, CIA, and NSA, concluded in a January 2017 report that Russia conducted a multifaceted campaign to influence the 2016 election. This campaign included:

Cyberattacks: Russian state-sponsored actors, specifically groups linked to Russian intelligence (e.g., Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear), hacked into Democratic National Committee (DNC) servers, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC), and personal email accounts of individuals like John Podesta, Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman. These hacks led to the theft of thousands of emails, which were later leaked via platforms like WikiLeaks to damage the Clinton campaign.

Disinformation Campaigns: Russia orchestrated social media manipulation, using troll farms (e.g., the Internet Research Agency) to spread divisive propaganda, promote pro-Trump narratives, and amplify misinformation. This aimed to sow discord and influence voter sentiment.

Probing Election Systems: There’s evidence Russia attempted to access state-level election infrastructure, such as voter registration databases, in at least 21 states. However, no evidence confirms that vote tallies were altered or that voting machines were directly compromised.

The term "hacked the election" can be misleading if it implies changing vote counts or directly rigging the election outcome. No definitive evidence supports such claims. Instead, Russia’s actions were focused on undermining confidence in the democratic process, influencing public opinion, and creating political chaos.

Key points:

The Mueller Report (2019) and subsequent Senate Intelligence Committee findings confirmed Russia’s interference through hacking and disinformation.

No evidence shows Russia directly altered election results, but their actions aimed to favor Donald Trump and undermine Hillary Clinton.

The U.S. responded with sanctions, expulsions of Russian diplomats, and cybersecurity enhancements.

These ic reports did not suit Obama so he wanted the reports re-done to show Russia did hack the election and he had the liberal media tote his false report lie for him.

New Evidence Uncovers Obama-Directed Creation of False Intelligence Report Used to Launch Years-long Coup to Undermine President Trump and the American People

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www.dni.gov

New Evidence Uncovers Obama-Directed Creation of False Intelligence Report Used to Launch Years-long Coup to Undermine President Trump and the American People​

WASHINGTON, D.C. – On Wednesday, at the President’s direction and with support of the HPSCI Chairman Rick Crawford, Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Tulsi Gabbard released a declassified oversight majority staff report produced by the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) in September 2020 that details how the Obama Administration manufactured an Intelligence Community Assessment they knew was false.

The ODNI records released on Friday, Senator Chuck Grassley’s release on Monday of the appendix to the DOJ OIG’s June 2018 report known as the “Clinton annex,” and the HPSCI oversight report released today confirm a treasonous conspiracy led by President Obama and his national security team, including James Clapper, John Brennan, and James Comey, to manipulate and manufacture intelligence that promoted a contrived false narrative falsely claiming: “Putin aspired to help President-elect Trump’s election chances, when possible, by discrediting Secretary Clinton.”

President Obama directed the creation of this January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment after President Trump defeated Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election, and it served as the basis for what was essentially a years-long coup against the duly elected President of the United States, subverting the will of the American people and attempting to delegitimize Donald Trump’s presidency.

We now know one of the source documents the Obama Administration officials used in the creation of the January 2017 ICA was the discredited, unverified Steele Dossier.

President Obama, Hillary Clinton, John Brennan, James Clapper, James Comey and others, along with their mouthpieces in the media, knowingly lied as they repeated the contrived false narrative they created in the January 2017 ICA with “high confidence” as though it were fact.

 

[MontyPython]

These ic reports did not suit Obama so he wanted the reports re-done to show Russia did hack the election and he had the liberal media tote his false report lie for him.

New Evidence Uncovers Obama-Directed Creation of False Intelligence Report Used to Launch Years-long Coup to Undermine President Trump and the American People

Joomla! - the dynamic portal engine and content management system

www.dni.gov

New Evidence Uncovers Obama-Directed Creation of False Intelligence Report Used to Launch Years-long Coup to Undermine President Trump and the American People​

WASHINGTON, D.C. – On Wednesday, at the President’s direction and with support of the HPSCI Chairman Rick Crawford, Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Tulsi Gabbard released a declassified oversight majority staff report produced by the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) in September 2020 that details how the Obama Administration manufactured an Intelligence Community Assessment they knew was false.

The ODNI records released on Friday, Senator Chuck Grassley’s release on Monday of the appendix to the DOJ OIG’s June 2018 report known as the “Clinton annex,” and the HPSCI oversight report released today confirm a treasonous conspiracy led by President Obama and his national security team, including James Clapper, John Brennan, and James Comey, to manipulate and manufacture intelligence that promoted a contrived false narrative falsely claiming: “Putin aspired to help President-elect Trump’s election chances, when possible, by discrediting Secretary Clinton.”

President Obama directed the creation of this January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment after President Trump defeated Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election, and it served as the basis for what was essentially a years-long coup against the duly elected President of the United States, subverting the will of the American people and attempting to delegitimize Donald Trump’s presidency.

We now know one of the source documents the Obama Administration officials used in the creation of the January 2017 ICA was the discredited, unverified Steele Dossier.

President Obama, Hillary Clinton, John Brennan, James Clapper, James Comey and others, along with their mouthpieces in the media, knowingly lied as they repeated the contrived false narrative they created in the January 2017 ICA with “high confidence” as though it were fact.

So, by your logic, WHILE TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT, Obama *controlled* the CIA, FBI, NSA and other government agencies that concluded Russia interfered with our election.

That is psychotic dude.

Curious... Do you think Biden is similarly controlling all of Trump's intelligence agencies right now?

And, I'm sorry but I gotta ask a personal question... Do you hear voices in YOUR head telling you to do things?

 

[jmacvols1]

So, by your logic, Obama *controlled* the CIA, FBI, NSA and other government agencies WHILE TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT that concluded Russia interfered with our election.

That is psychotic dude.

Curious... Do you think Biden is similarly controlling all of Trump's intelligence agencies right now?

Gotta ask... Do you hear voices in YOUR head telling you to do things?

Obama appointed heads of those depts and they did obama's bidding.....

.....and media repeated lies....



hoax uncovered

 

[MontyPython]

Obama appointed heads of those depts and they did obama's bidding.....

.....and media repeated lies....

And what, pray tell, prevented President Trump from firing said employees that worked for HIM?

 

[jmacvols1]

And what, pray tell, prevented President Trump from firing said employees that worked for HIM?

right now corrupt Fed district judges are trying to usurp executive branch authority and dictate to Trump who he can and cannot fire or hire


from video below, 2016 reports said no indication Russian threat to hack the election, even up to Dec 2016 after the election Obama administration said Russia did not hack the election but after Dec 2016 Obama then wanted reports rewritten to say Russia did hack the election with liberal media willing to help spread the lie

 

[MontyPython]

right now corrupt Fed district judges are trying to usurp executive branch authority and dictate to Trump who he can and cannot fire or hire

Provide a link to prove that "corrupt federal judges" prevented Trump from firing any of his CIA, FBI or NSA staff between 2017 and 2020.

 

[jmacvols1]

from GROK:

The Presidential Daily Brief (PDB) from December 8, 2016, prepared for President Obama, reportedly assessed that "Russian and criminal actors did not impact recent US election results by conducting malicious cyber activities against election infrastructure." It concluded that Russian activities were likely intended to create psychological effects, such as undermining confidence in the election process, and that it was "highly unlikely" these efforts altered any state's official vote results. The brief was pulled before reaching the President due to "new guidance," and its findings were not published at the time. This information comes from declassified documents released in July 2025 by Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, as reported by Fox News and The Daily Wire.


However, this assessment contrasts with the broader intelligence community narrative. A January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA) concluded with high confidence that Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign to undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process, denigrate Hillary Clinton, and support Donald Trump. This campaign involved hacking Democratic Party systems, leaking emails through intermediaries like WikiLeaks, and spreading disinformation via social media and state-run media like RT and Sputnik. While the ICA and subsequent reports, including a 2020 Senate Intelligence Committee report, found no evidence of Russia altering actual votes, they emphasized significant interference aimed at influencing voter perceptions.


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this Jan 2017 "high confidence" ICA was based on a fake Steel Dossier as Gabbard exposed.

from Gabbard's report on the new contrived Jan 2017 ICA report that contradicted earlier reports from 2016 including contradicting the PDA given Dec 8, 2016:

Steele Dossier
We now know one of the source documents the Obama Administration officials used in the creation of the January 2017 ICA was the discredited, unverified Steele Dossier.


“High Confidence”
President Obama, Hillary Clinton, John Brennan, James Clapper, James Comey and others, along with their mouthpieces in the media, knowingly lied as they repeated the contrived false narrative they created in the January 2017 ICA with “high confidence” as though it were fact.

• Obama’s CIA Director, Brennan stated in a memo to agency staff in December 2016, “There is strong consensus among us on the scope, nature, and intent of Russian interference in our presidential election.”
• Obama’s Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper was tasked with overseeing the creation of the January 2017 ICA and expressed confidence in its findings. In a 2018 interview with the Harvard Gazette, he said, “We provided Trump the same classified assessment that President Obama received,” which included the high-confidence judgment that “Putin directly ordered the hacking and election interference.” Clapper further noted, “I think they [Russians] actually influenced the outcome,” indicating his personal belief in the ICA’s conclusions.

The HPSCI report was updated several times as the Committee received new information, with the most recent version dated September 2020.

 

[jmacvols1]

Provide a link to prove that "corrupt federal judges" prevented Trump from firing any of his CIA, FBI or NSA staff between 2017 and 2020.

I said "right now" judges are trying to stop Trump from firing people. in 2016 Trump replaced Obama's people with his own when Trump took office.

 

[MontyPython]

from GROK:

The Presidential Daily Brief (PDB) from December 8, 2016, prepared for President Obama, reportedly assessed that "Russian and criminal actors did not impact recent US election results by conducting malicious cyber activities against election infrastructure." It concluded that Russian activities were likely intended to create psychological effects, such as undermining confidence in the election process, and that it was "highly unlikely" these efforts altered any state's official vote results. The brief was pulled before reaching the President due to "new guidance," and its findings were not published at the time. This information comes from declassified documents released in July 2025 by Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, as reported by Fox News and The Daily Wire.


However, this assessment contrasts with the broader intelligence community narrative. A January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA) concluded with high confidence that Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign to undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process, denigrate Hillary Clinton, and support Donald Trump. This campaign involved hacking Democratic Party systems, leaking emails through intermediaries like WikiLeaks, and spreading disinformation via social media and state-run media like RT and Sputnik. While the ICA and subsequent reports, including a 2020 Senate Intelligence Committee report, found no evidence of Russia altering actual votes, they emphasized significant interference aimed at influencing voter perceptions.


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this Jan 2017 "high confidence" ICA was based on a fake Steel Dossier as Gabbard exposed.

from Gabbard's report on the new contrived Jan 2017 ICA report:

Steele Dossier
We now know one of the source documents the Obama Administration officials used in the creation of the January 2017 ICA was the discredited, unverified Steele Dossier.


“High Confidence”
President Obama, Hillary Clinton, John Brennan, James Clapper, James Comey and others, along with their mouthpieces in the media, knowingly lied as they repeated the contrived false narrative they created in the January 2017 ICA with “high confidence” as though it were fact.

• Obama’s CIA Director, Brennan stated in a memo to agency staff in December 2016, “There is strong consensus among us on the scope, nature, and intent of Russian interference in our presidential election.”
• Obama’s Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper was tasked with overseeing the creation of the January 2017 ICA and expressed confidence in its findings. In a 2018 interview with the Harvard Gazette, he said, “We provided Trump the same classified assessment that President Obama received,” which included the high-confidence judgment that “Putin directly ordered the hacking and election interference.” Clapper further noted, “I think they [Russians] actually influenced the outcome,” indicating his personal belief in the ICA’s conclusions.

The HPSCI report was updated several times as the Committee received new information, with the most recent version dated September 2020.

Good Lord, man. I'm concerned you're brain is in an alternate, non-existent universe.

In reality:

The January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA), titled "Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections," did not rely on the Steele dossier as a basis for its conclusions. The ICA, produced by the CIA, FBI, and NSA, concluded with high confidence that Russia interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election to undermine public faith in the democratic process, denigrate Hillary Clinton, and boost Donald Trump’s electoral chances. It focused on evidence like GRU hacks, WikiLeaks releases, and Russian propaganda efforts, including RT and troll farms.

The Steele dossier, compiled by former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele, was funded by the Clinton campaign and the DNC through Fusion GPS. It contained unverified allegations of ties between Trump and Russia. Despite debates among intelligence officials about its inclusion, the dossier was not incorporated into the main body of the ICA. It was attached as a two-page annex in the classified version, with a disclaimer stating it did not inform the ICA’s key judgments due to its unverified nature. CIA analysts, including two senior Russia experts, opposed its inclusion, citing tradecraft concerns, and the Senate Intelligence Committee confirmed it did not influence the ICA’s analysis.

Some controversy exists, as a declassified House Intelligence Committee report claimed the dossier was referenced in the ICA’s main text, contradicting CIA Director John Brennan’s testimony that it was not used. However, this claim is disputed by congressional sources and the Senate’s findings, which align with the CIA’s stance that the dossier was separate from the ICA’s conclusions.

In short, the ICA’s findings were based on independent intelligence, not the Steele dossier, which played no role in its core assessments.

 

[MontyPython]

I said "right now" judges are trying to stop Trump from firing people. in 2016 Trump replaced Obama's people with his own when Trump took office.

Precisely.

So by your own admission, nothing prevented President Trump from firing FBI, CIA and NSA employees that worked for HIM between 2017 and 2020. Yet, Obama controlled these government employees while Trump was President and magically forced them to create "bogus reports" that now... somehow... prove Obama committed "treason" by manipulating these government employees to do his bidding by knowingly and willfully harming the reputation of Donald J. Trump.

Have I got your story straight?

 

[jmacvols1]

In reality:

The January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA), titled "Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections," did not rely on the Steele dossier as a basis for its conclusions.

The ICA, produced by the CIA, FBI, and NSA, concluded with high confidence that Russia interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election to undermine public faith in the democratic process, denigrate Hillary Clinton, and boost Donald Trump’s electoral chances. It focused on evidence like GRU hacks, WikiLeaks releases, and Russian propaganda efforts, including RT and troll farms.

The Steele dossier, compiled by former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele, was funded by the Clinton campaign and the DNC through Fusion GPS. It contained unverified allegations of ties between Trump and Russia. Despite debates among intelligence officials about its inclusion, the dossier was not incorporated into the main body of the ICA. It was attached as a two-page annex in the classified version, with a disclaimer stating it did not inform the ICA’s key judgments due to its unverified nature. CIA analysts, including two senior Russia experts, opposed its inclusion, citing tradecraft concerns, and the Senate Intelligence Committee confirmed it did not influence the ICA’s analysis.

Some controversy exists, as a declassified House Intelligence Committee report claimed the dossier was referenced in the ICA’s main text, contradicting CIA Director John Brennan’s testimony that it was not used. However, this claim is disputed by congressional sources and the Senate’s findings, which align with the CIA’s stance that the dossier was separate from the ICA’s conclusions.

In short, the ICA’s findings were based on independent intelligence, not the Steele dossier, which played no role in its core assessments.

from recent info uncovered by Gabbard:

Steele Dossier
We now know one of the source documents the Obama Administration officials used in the creation of the January 2017 ICA was the discredited, unverified Steele Dossier.

• HPSCI report states: “Contradicting public claims by the DCIA [Brennan] that the dossier ‘was not in any way’ incorporated into the ICA, the dossier was referenced in the ICA main body text and further detailed in a two-page ICA annex.”

John Brennan lied and denied using the dossier in the ICA because he knew it was a discredited, politically motivated manufactured document. He told senior CIA officials to use it anyway.

• CIA officer to HPSCI staff: “DCIA [Brennan] refused to remove it, and when confronted with the dossier’s main flaws, [Brennan] responded, ‘Yes, but doesn’t it ring true?’”

The bipartisan Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI) report (Volume 5, 2020) also criticized the FBI’s handling of the Steele Dossier, noting its completely unverified nature and purposeful sidestepping of IC procedure in its use.

New Evidence Uncovers Obama-Directed Creation of False Intelligence Report Used to Launch Years-long Coup to Undermine President Trump and the American People

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[jmacvols1]

Precisely.

So by your own admission, nothing prevented President Trump from firing FBI, CIA and NSA employees that worked for HIM between 2017 and 2020. Yet, Obama controlled these government employees while Trump was President and magically forced them to create "bogus reports" that now... somehow... prove Obama committed "treason" by manipulating these government employees to do his bidding by knowingly and willfully harming the reputation of Donald J. Trump.

Have I got your story straight?

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that is what is being investigated...from Dec 8 to the next day Dec 9 .......Obama did a 180 turn around from Russia not hacking, playing no interference in altering votes to saying the exact opposite on Dec 9.

 

[jmacvols1]

from GROK

There is no definitive proof that Donald Trump or his campaign colluded with Russia to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election, based on available evidence from major investigations. Here’s a concise overview:

1. Mueller Investigation (2017-2019): The Special Counsel investigation, led by Robert Mueller, examined Russian interference and potential coordination with the Trump campaign. The report, released in April 2019, found:
   
   • Russia engaged in extensive interference, including hacking Democratic emails and running disinformation campaigns via social media.
   • Numerous contacts occurred between Trump campaign associates and Russian operatives (e.g., the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting with Natalia Veselnitskaya, communications involving Paul Manafort, and George Papadopoulos’s interactions with Russian-linked figures).
   • However, the investigation "did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities." The report noted that "collusion" is not a legal term but found insufficient evidence for criminal conspiracy.
2. Senate Intelligence Committee Report (2020): The bipartisan Senate report, part of a five-volume series, detailed Russian interference and Trump campaign contacts with Russia:
   
   • It described the Trump campaign’s interactions, particularly Manafort’s sharing of internal polling data with Konstantin Kilimnik, a Russian intelligence-linked figure, as a "grave counterintelligence threat."
   • Despite extensive contacts, the report did not conclude definitive coordination or conspiracy, citing gaps in evidence and some witnesses’ lack of candor.
3. Steele Dossier: The unverified dossier alleged ties between Trump and Russia. While it gained public attention, it was not used as primary evidence in the Mueller or Senate investigations due to its unverified nature. The FBI and other agencies relied on independent intelligence.
4. Declassified Documents and Recent Claims: In July 2025, declassified documents, including a December 8, 2016, Presidential Daily Brief, assessed that Russian cyber activities did not alter election results. These documents, highlighted by figures like Tulsi Gabbard, have been cited to argue that Russian interference was overstated, but they don’t directly address collusion. They focus on vote integrity rather than campaign contacts.

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did the liberal media tote obama's lie and claim Trump colluded with Putin

Declassified: Obama Ignored Intel Contradicting Russia Hoax

At Obama’s direction CIA Director Brennan put the intelligence community to work to bring Trump down after the 2016 election.

thefederalist.com