Sheriron Jones update?

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5FingerVolPunch said:
I don't think the odds of him seeing playing time are as low as you think. Again, Dormady was an EE. Not taking anything away from him because he is an excellent passer from what we've seen, but SJ supposedly is a great passer as well and has the legs to go with it. I think we'll see him on the field this season. I believe JG will redshirt this season.
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Also another trait SJ has is he's one of those kids other players love to be around, he has that kind of leadership ability and trust teammates instinctively know is there, it's an intangible, the kid just has it reportedly.
 
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Probably the one person who knows Jones the best should be Nick Sheridan. Also DeBord. I suspect his skill set was the key factor behind CBJ allowing him to return. Learning the playbook, the assignments of the whole offense for a given play and the reads are probably the things holding him back at this point. A good solid camp will help him a lot. With lots of work this next year, he could be right in the middle of next year's QB competition.

I believe it was Ainge on RTI who was discussing Jones' talent. He should know.

Jones is but one of many examples of really talented depth players on the roster now. I still can't believe how far we've come in the last 3 years. Injuries are never good, but now they are not nearly so crippling.
 
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I think SJ's issue is consistently in the throw game. Quick release. Probably the quickest of any QB we have but he's known to really miss receivers down field. Hopefully he can correct that. QD is a fine talent at QB. Probably could start at a lot of schools. Very cerebral. I think his dad is a high school coach. Really knows the game. But competition is really a good thing(unless you're Riley Ferguson I guess).
 
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TNnative said:
What hesitation? Had we been discussing a OL, WR, or most any other position, what you say might make sense.

But Jones was the No. 3 QB. When he transferred to Colorado, who could blame him? He saw he was stuck behind Dobbs and Dormady, and Guarantano was on the commit list. Odds of him seeing playing time? Low.

He got up there, looked around, and realized he would rather be pushing the guys he was with at Tennessee than trying to lead Colorado. Would letting him back cause hesitation? He just paid the current program and staff the biggest compliment any player could.

With how fast he was checking to see if he could get back? And the rules actually allowing it? You better not hesitate. Even if he doesn't get a start, this is one guy you want talking to official visitors. A back up QB? Who would have thought that?
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The hesitation I speak of is simple. You look at the three QB transfers we've had in recent years: Peterman, Ferguson and Jones.

Peterman was a product of the Dooley recruiting years and just never found a rhythm in the system CBJ put into place. Not to say he isn't a good QB, he just wasn't a good QB for us to say the least. However, he found a place where he is doing quite well and I wouldn't be surprised to see him get drafted this next year.

Ferguson was also recruited by Dooley and was an interesting prospect to say the least when he came to Rocky Top. But even he admits (now) to a lack of maturity on coming in to UT. And has expressed remorse on leaving while he was at Coffeyville. One could read between the lines and say he was making a veiled plea to return to UT after last season, but nobody reached out to him that we know of. I could think it would have been far easier for him to transition back into UT since he knew many of the players and still probably had a good idea of the playbook he left behind even with Debord coming in. But apparently no call was made even though he was being pursued by at least one P5 school and other G5 schools. Because I believe Ferguson would have jumped at the chance to return even given the starting spot was already locked up by Dobbs.

Then you have Jones, who left and was back two weeks later. You can say there was a limited window and no hesitation could be given, but you look at the difference in Jones and Ferguson. CBJ could have easily reached out to Ferguson and offered another shot this year with the caveat of "keep your nose clean and you get a chance at being the #2 in 2016 and potentially starting in 2017" and full out released Jones. But he welcomed back Jones without (what appears to be) any baggage and he's back where he wants to be. There was probably a good chance of starting at Colorado given the general dismal state of their program, but he has zero problems being the backup at UT.

I think you hit a good point that Jones could be a dang good recruiter for prospects coming in. But I'll also counter by saying Ferguson would be just as good or even better by saying "I've been on the other side of the fence and trust me, you want to come and stay here." Jones did the right thing by coming in with his hat in hand and admitting he made a mistake. But the same could be said in Ferguson admitting he was wrong in leaving as well.

This reply isn't intended to dredge up old memories of Ferguson and the controversy over his departure. But rather a comparison of two QBs that departed the program and one that was allowed to return without remorse.
 
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ACvol3 said:
This is based on your extensive notes from all the private workouts and practices u have been attending?
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Sometimes you just consider the source of the comments that are made and chuckle before moving on.
 
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Grand Vol said:
The hesitation I speak of is simple. You look at the three QB transfers we've had in recent years: Peterman, Ferguson and Jones.

Peterman was a product of the Dooley recruiting years and just never found a rhythm in the system CBJ put into place. Not to say he isn't a good QB, he just wasn't a good QB for us to say the least. However, he found a place where he is doing quite well and I wouldn't be surprised to see him get drafted this next year.

Ferguson was also recruited by Dooley and was an interesting prospect to say the least when he came to Rocky Top. But even he admits (now) to a lack of maturity on coming in to UT. And has expressed remorse on leaving while he was at Coffeyville. One could read between the lines and say he was making a veiled plea to return to UT after last season, but nobody reached out to him that we know of. I could think it would have been far easier for him to transition back into UT since he knew many of the players and still probably had a good idea of the playbook he left behind even with Debord coming in. But apparently no call was made even though he was being pursued by at least one P5 school and other G5 schools. Because I believe Ferguson would have jumped at the chance to return even given the starting spot was already locked up by Dobbs.

Then you have Jones, who left and was back two weeks later. You can say there was a limited window and no hesitation could be given, but you look at the difference in Jones and Ferguson. CBJ could have easily reached out to Ferguson and offered another shot this year with the caveat of "keep your nose clean and you get a chance at being the #2 in 2016 and potentially starting in 2017" and full out released Jones. But he welcomed back Jones without (what appears to be) any baggage and he's back where he wants to be. There was probably a good chance of starting at Colorado given the general dismal state of their program, but he has zero problems being the backup at UT.

I think you hit a good point that Jones could be a dang good recruiter for prospects coming in. But I'll also counter by saying Ferguson would be just as good or even better by saying "I've been on the other side of the fence and trust me, you want to come and stay here." Jones did the right thing by coming in with his hat in hand and admitting he made a mistake. But the same could be said in Ferguson admitting he was wrong in leaving as well.

This reply isn't intended to dredge up old memories of Ferguson and the controversy over his departure. But rather a comparison of two QBs that departed the program and one that was allowed to return without remorse.
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I agree with this 100%
 
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Jones has all the tools to be the best QB out of the trio imo. Go back and watch his HS highlights. The kid has a freaking cannon of an arm. He is very elusive and he has great leadership qualities. I love QD and JG but I truly believe Jones will be leading our offense at some point next season. He has that IT factor imo

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QmPKsxAlNQ[/youtube]
 
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[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CCSNCF6sh0[/youtube]

Like I said Sheriron has that IT factor to me. I simply love what this kid brings to the table.
 
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Grand Vol said:
The hesitation I speak of is simple. You look at the three QB transfers we've had in recent years: Peterman, Ferguson and Jones.

Peterman was a product of the Dooley recruiting years and just never found a rhythm in the system CBJ put into place. Not to say he isn't a good QB, he just wasn't a good QB for us to say the least. However, he found a place where he is doing quite well and I wouldn't be surprised to see him get drafted this next year.

Ferguson was also recruited by Dooley and was an interesting prospect to say the least when he came to Rocky Top. But even he admits (now) to a lack of maturity on coming in to UT. And has expressed remorse on leaving while he was at Coffeyville. One could read between the lines and say he was making a veiled plea to return to UT after last season, but nobody reached out to him that we know of. I could think it would have been far easier for him to transition back into UT since he knew many of the players and still probably had a good idea of the playbook he left behind even with Debord coming in. But apparently no call was made even though he was being pursued by at least one P5 school and other G5 schools. Because I believe Ferguson would have jumped at the chance to return even given the starting spot was already locked up by Dobbs.

Then you have Jones, who left and was back two weeks later. You can say there was a limited window and no hesitation could be given, but you look at the difference in Jones and Ferguson. CBJ could have easily reached out to Ferguson and offered another shot this year with the caveat of "keep your nose clean and you get a chance at being the #2 in 2016 and potentially starting in 2017" and full out released Jones. But he welcomed back Jones without (what appears to be) any baggage and he's back where he wants to be. There was probably a good chance of starting at Colorado given the general dismal state of their program, but he has zero problems being the backup at UT.

I think you hit a good point that Jones could be a dang good recruiter for prospects coming in. But I'll also counter by saying Ferguson would be just as good or even better by saying "I've been on the other side of the fence and trust me, you want to come and stay here." Jones did the right thing by coming in with his hat in hand and admitting he made a mistake. But the same could be said in Ferguson admitting he was wrong in leaving as well.

This reply isn't intended to dredge up old memories of Ferguson and the controversy over his departure. But rather a comparison of two QBs that departed the program and one that was allowed to return without remorse.
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bolded the reason Jones so easily welcomed him back. No baggage. A hard working kid who did things the right way, unlike Ferguson. Jones might end up at some point a great QB for Tennessee but at this point that is still TBD. It was more about him being a really good kid who determine he made a mistake and wanted to return.

No way Ferguson would have ever been welcomed back.
 
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LWSVOL said:
bolded the reason Jones so easily welcomed him back. No baggage. A hard working kid who did things the right way, unlike Ferguson. Jones might end up at some point a great QB for Tennessee but at this point that is still TBD. It was more about him being a really good kid who determine he made a mistake and wanted to return.

No way Ferguson would have ever been welcomed back.
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I trust you likely know far more of both situations than many on here. Thanks for the input.
 
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I like this kid better than the rest of the back ups.. Fits the system better, and a true dual threat, dormady might be good, but not a good fit, and guarantano well... He's just a freshman.. Dobbs coming out was not a true dual threat...
 
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dduncan4163 said:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CCSNCF6sh0[/youtube]

Like I said Sheriron has that IT factor to me. I simply love what this kid brings to the table.
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Highlights vs. Highlights JG has the upper hand I think. He looked way more impressive during these drills though. Really liked those no laces throws. A release like that can be deadly in the screen and slant game.
 
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chattaboogie said:
It could be crazy productive but I don't think we will see a better running QB at Tennessee for a long time. Some of the plays he makes on the ground on almost unbelievable. Defenders just slide off like he's a greased pig.
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Agreed. Dobbs is one of the best running QBs we have seen in awhile.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I doubt Sheriron ever takes a meaningful snap at Tennessee. I just don't see the talent.

Guarantano and Dormady are both better than him.
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Just curious, what are you basing this off? Sheriron hasnt even been in live fire action yet, and Guarantano is yet to take his first snaps either. I just dont see how you can evaluate these kids, before they even play one in game snap.
 
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