Sharia Law: Coming to a Neighborhood Near You.

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EasternVol said:
As is their right. It's a decision made by the people in Dearborn. It doesn't affect you or me. Why does it bother you?
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Learning here so I'm hoping this doesn't come across as antagonistic. What makes their right vs the right of someone wanting quiet at that time. Is it a Dearborn policy that has established the "right"? What would be the difference between this and calling the cops on a loud neighbor? Thanks for your time.
 
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Jkm0920 said:
Learning here so I'm hoping this doesn't come across as antagonistic. What makes their right vs the right of someone wanting quiet at that time. Is it a Dearborn policy that has established the "right"? What would be the difference between this and calling the cops on a loud neighbor? Thanks for your time.
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If people there want it and there's no objection from residents, why not?
 
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BeardedVol said:
The mindset that sexual assault victims are responsible for their own assaults by the way they dress, act etc, is relatively common in conservative Christian churches and organizations as well; it's not restricted to Islam.
www.theguardian.com

Liberty University fined $14m over ‘culture of silence’ around sexual assault

Christian evangelical institution punished victims ‘for violating the student code of conduct’ as ‘assailants were left unpunished’
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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You are being willfully obtuse. It's common for men in Islamic countries to escape justice under law for rape in these situations because the woman shares the greater blame for being an object of lust, have to meet an almost impossible burden of proof and or have the possibility of counter charges file against them, are ostracized by their friends and family completely if they admit they were raped.


Whispering "look at how she dresses/acts, she invited that" is so different than the above......... its honestly just pathetic.
 
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KB5252 said:
You are being willfully obtuse. It's common for men in Islamic countries to escape justice under law for rape in these situations because the woman shares the greater blame for being an object of lust, have to meet an almost impossible burden of proof and or have the possibility of counter charges file against them, are ostracized by their friends and family completely if they admit they were raped.


Whispering "look at how she dresses/acts, she invited that" is so different than the above......... its honestly just pathetic.
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It's common for men in India to escape justice under the law as well, is Hinduism to blame?

Your attempt to peg this as solely a problem with Islam as a religion isn't grounded by reality, when even in our own predominantly christian country 66-75% of sexual assaults go unreported because 'fear of revictimization, shame, lack of belief, and concern about how the allegations will be handled by the justice system'.
 
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BeardedVol said:
It's common for men in India to escape justice under the law as well, is Hinduism to blame?

Your attempt to peg this as solely a problem with Islam as a religion isn't grounded by reality, when even in our own predominantly christian country 66-75% of sexual assaults go unreported because 'fear of revictimization, shame, lack of belief, and concern about how the allegations will be handled by the justice system'.
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I didn't attempt to peg this solely on Islam.

The issue in America is victim shame, feeling ostracized. Having to go before a court and explain what happened, feeling victimized again.

The issue in Islam is their law is the religion, that their religious law explicitly blames them for their victimization. That the burden of proof is in almost every instance insurmountable. That simply making the charge of rape opens you up to punishable charges under the law.

And in America victims feel ostracized, in Islam victims are ostracized, fathers and mothers disown daughters and expel them from their lives. Husbands divorce wives, women can't find work etc.

As you pointed out this is common among other societies as well, but in this case the comparison to Christian and Islam views toward rape were brought up.
 
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