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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
And what are your sources? Because as you admitted none of that is in the Quran.

Also be accurate in your allegations. Muhammad isn't alleged to have had sexual relations with a 6 year old.
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Why Scholars of Islam Disagree About the Age of the Prophet Muhammad's Youngest Wife

Inconsistencies in the sources regarding Aisha's youth have real-world implications for children across the Muslim world, underscoring the importance of critical inquiry
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Smokey123 said:
Ah yes. You know more than the prophets that created the religion and the scholars that study it. Sorry continue on educating everyone
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The prophet only left the Quran. He didn't leave any other supplemental information to understand the Quran.

And the "scholars" are incorporating hadiths (which are of questionable authenticity) to create their version of Islam. I'm simply looking at the Quran alone and using common sense.

Now you use your common sense and tell me my reading of that verse is wrong. You really think that verse is commanding Muslims to pray for 7 hours everyday from the decline of the sun after noon until it fully sets? Even Muslims don't believe that. They get to the 5 daily prayers from the hadiths. They don't get there by using your ridiculous arguments.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
He did the same thing about excusing Muhammad’s evil acts. “It’s not all written in the Quran therefore it didn’t happen” 😂
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All I asked for are valid historical documents. If there were contemporary records showing Muhammad's acts you would be justified. It ain't my fault you are ignorant of how flimsy the hadiths are in Islam. They're about as valid as fan fiction. They were created 200 years after Muhammad's alleged death to create a caricature for the version of Islam the Abassid Caliphate.

We unfortunately have no idea what the real Muhammad was like because the historical record on him is almost nonexistent.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
The prophet only left the Quran. He didn't leave any other supplemental information to understand the Quran.

And the "scholars" are incorporating hadiths (which are of questionable authenticity) to create their version of Islam. I'm simply looking at the Quran alone and using common sense.

Now you use your common sense and tell me my reading of that verse is wrong. You really think that verse is commanding Muslims to pray for 7 hours everyday from the decline of the sun after noon until it fully sets? Even Muslims don't believe that. They get to the 5 daily prayers from the hadiths. They don't get there by using your ridiculous arguments.
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Whatever you say. You already contradicted your own statements. Maybe you should write your own interpretation of the Quran I’m sure Muslims would love to hear your expertise
 
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Weird. I thought D4H said there was only 1 verse that mentioned prayer times and it explicitly only says 3… So ignorant

So be patient ˹O Prophet˺ with what they say. And glorify the praises of your Lord before sunrise and before sunset, and glorify Him in the hours of the night and at both ends of the day,1 so that you may be pleased ˹with the reward˺.
 
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Smokey123 said:
Whatever you say. You already contradicted your own statements. Maybe you should write your own interpretation of the Quran I’m sure Muslims would love to hear your expertise
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How have I contradicted myself? All I said was the Quran never states 5 daily prayers while the hadiths do. The Quran only implies 3 daily prayers.

And I don't need to do anything. There are Muslims popularly called "Quranists" who already make these arguments. Like me they've read the Quran and realized mainstream Islam contradicts it regularly. Thus they've rejected mainstream Islam and become "Quran only" Muslims.
 
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Smokey123 said:
Weird. I thought D4H said there was only 1 verse that mentioned prayer times and it explicitly only says 3… So ignorant

So be patient ˹O Prophet˺ with what they say. And glorify the praises of your Lord before sunrise and before sunset, and glorify Him in the hours of the night and at both ends of the day,1 so that you may be pleased ˹with the reward˺.
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Stop joining verses together. Cite the chapter and verse.

We've already gone over this but if you want me to bury you some more with logic then so be it.
 
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Smokey123 said:
That’s one verse lmaoooo. 20:130
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My bad. Looked like one of the earlier verses. With that said, didn't we already discuss "praise" versus "prayer"? The word prayer in Islam is "salat" and that's not mentioned in the verse.

As I mentioned before. Prayer involves more than just praise in Islam. It involves bodily movements. That's why its mentioned in the Quran explicitly as "salat" aka establishing prayer.

We're talking about the bodily movement prayers here. Not just "praising God".
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
My bad. Looked like one of the earlier verses. With that said, didn't we already discuss "praise" versus "prayer"? The word prayer in Islam is "salat" and that's not mentioned in the verse.

As I mentioned before. Prayer involves more than just praise in Islam. It involves bodily movements. That's why its mentioned in the Quran explicitly as "salat" aka establishing prayer.

We're talking about the bodily movement prayers here. Not just "praising God".
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Again. It’s interpreted as prayer. You’ve yet to provide one example of contradiction about prayer. The only contradiction that has happened is from your own words. ✌️ sorry you want to cherry pick one verse and say all others don’t apply
 
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Weren't there muslim child rape hang in London or England somewhere??? Is that acceptable in the Muslim faith?
 
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Breaking Sharia Laws in America's Most Muslim City | Dearborn MI

In this video we visit Dearborn and the Hamtramck Michigan. The Hamtramck is America's first and hopefully last Muslim majority city. The Hamtamck also has an only all-Muslim City Council and recently they renamed Holbrook Avenue to Palestine Avenue... What do you guys think about this?
 
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Smokey123 said:
Again. It’s interpreted as prayer.
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No its not. "Salat" in Arabic means prayer. That verse never mentions prayer. Which is why it uses the word "praise". We're talking here about the RITUAL prayer Muslim are supposed to engage in. Not simple praise of God which can be done at anytime without any ritual movements.
There's not a single verse of the Quran that states Muslims must engage in 5 daily ritual prayers. That's the contradiction. That the hadiths say you must do 5 ritual prayers verses the Quran only implying 3 ritual prayers (dawn, evening, and night).

Praise isn't ritual prayer no matter how much you want to spin it.
 
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MAD said:
Difficult to comprehend this way of thinking.

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The mindset that sexual assault victims are responsible for their own assaults by the way they dress, act etc, is relatively common in conservative Christian churches and organizations as well; it's not restricted to Islam.
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Liberty University fined $14m over ‘culture of silence’ around sexual assault

Christian evangelical institution punished victims ‘for violating the student code of conduct’ as ‘assailants were left unpunished’
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