Shaka Smart

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So I guess the strategy for Hart would be to hire a mid-major coach at the middle of a road price and hope that guy pays off? I think football struggling on top off the money problems that have crippled the AD have hurt basketball as well. Perhaps if we were winning in football we could hire a better coach (not a elite Coach K type but a good coach).
 
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VolFaninV said:
Loving your team and being irrational do not have to go hand and hand. Just because you cheer for a team/school does not mean you should be blinded to reality.
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And just because you disagreed with his post doesn't mean you have to sink to the level of a pompous a hole. And I live in JC and happen to think Greeneville is a perfectly nice town.
 
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HialeahGator said:
Guess it more about the family and his comfort level than getting a big time gig. 2mil yr and the wife is happy. Dont think you could want much more.
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Probably this.

I have a close friend who coaches HS supports and has won multiple state titles. I asked him why he has not took offers from NCAA / SEC progs. Basically, he has a good HS gig#makes plenty of money in day job and knows the college athletic instability that's likely to have his family uprooted repeatedly.

It ain't for everyone.
 
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The bottom line is that I have no faith whatsoever that this administration will spend the money to get this fixed. The two money programs in this conference (Bama football and UK basketball) are the example of spending it to make it back later. We choose to accept mediocrity and the administration refuses to try something new.
 
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bnhunt said:
Do VCU administration or boosters (if they have any) have pictures of him sniffing coke off a hooker's back in Vegas or something? There has to be a reason he hasn't left for a better job (i.e. UCLA or Illinois). I would at least pick up the phone when we begin our coaching search after the season and make him say NO.
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Wait until the former coaches we are still paying are paid off and we have more money to pay Shaka.

The athletic department can't continue to hire and fire and pay coaches when they are no longer on campus.
That is a bad financial cycle to be in..... Let Martin stay until his buy out is not so large.

God knows we don't have to worry about another college trying to hire him away from us......

Wade Houston Jr. is who he is!!!!!!!!
 
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I think a lot of "mid major" coaches have learned from others that the grass isn't always greener at bigger programs. There are so many examples of guys who took the first "big" job that was offered and it was a disaster. I personally think it's good to see guys like Shaka Smart and Brad Stevens (didn't take another college job, I know he went to NBA) stay at programs like VCU and Butler. Don't jump for the sake of it. Dana Altman stayed at Creighton after getting other offers as we,,, even took the Arky job and came to his senses.
 
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VolFaninV said:
What is impressive to me is how much your stupid statements represent half of the UT fanbase. How do you know what he wants or strives for in life. Why the hell would he leave a place that worships him for the dumpster fire that is UT sports right now. Go fire up your thunderbird and go for a spin through Greenville,
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Most people strive for success and the best measure of success I am aware of professionally is moving up in your designated profession and the last time I checked UT is a move up from VCU in both notoriety and salary. If he doesn't strive for that in his profession, then I don't want him as coach. You may not agree with my statements, but calling them stupid and then insulting me, just shows how ignorant and stupid you are, but instead of having a civil discussion, I realize it's easier just to be insulting to cover up your own insecurities. However, what should I expect arguing from someone typing this while sitting in their mother's basement. Lastly, I've never been to Greeneville (which in your infinite wisdom you misspelled), but hear it's pretty nice.
 
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VolFaninV said:
Loving your team and being irrational do not have to go hand and hand. Just because you cheer for a team/school does not mean you should be blinded to reality.
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You think asking about a coach coming to a school for a $1 million per year raise is "blinded to reality"? You may not agree, but to say it is "blinded to reality" shows that you have no sense of reality. I think reality is that most people would consider leaving for a new job if they were offered a ONE MILLION DOLLAR per year raise. Maybe I'm wrong about that though.
 
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volswillrise12 said:
So I guess the strategy for Hart would be to hire a mid-major coach at the middle of a road price and hope that guy pays off? I think football struggling on top off the money problems that have crippled the AD have hurt basketball as well. Perhaps if we were winning in football we could hire a better coach (not a elite Coach K type but a good coach).
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You're pretty much on point. The only way CCM gets fired is to have an ugly season. Being on the bubble and going to the nit is not ugly enough. Hart has made it clear that we can't not financially keep buying out coaches. We don't have the surplus in the budget anymore.
 
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bnhunt said:
Most people strive for success and the best measure of success I am aware of professionally is moving up in your designated profession and the last time I checked UT is a move up from VCU in both notoriety and salary. If he doesn't strive for that in his profession, then I don't want him as coach.
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You're casting a pretty wide net there. There could be an infinite number of reasons he hasn't decided to move on from VCU. Maybe the idea of creating a national power is in his goals. Maybe his family comes above his career, and they are happy there. Maybe he really enjoys the working relationship and environment with his bosses and fellow AD employees.

Just because he's not meeting your goals for his career doesn't mean he isn't meeting his own.
 
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bnhunt said:
Most people strive for success and the best measure of success I am aware of professionally is moving up in your designated profession and the last time I checked UT is a move up from VCU in both notoriety and salary. If he doesn't strive for that in his profession, then I don't want him as coach. You may not agree with my statements, but calling them stupid and then insulting me, just shows how ignorant and stupid you are, but instead of having a civil discussion, I realize it's easier just to be insulting to cover up your own insecurities. However, what should I expect arguing from someone typing this while sitting in their mother's basement. Lastly, I've never been to Greeneville (which in your infinite wisdom you misspelled), but hear it's pretty nice.
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No the best measure is championships...who is closer VCU or UT...I thought so
 
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bnhunt said:
Most people strive for success and the best measure of success I am aware of professionally is moving up in your designated profession and the last time I checked UT is a move up from VCU in both notoriety and salary. If he doesn't strive for that in his profession, then I don't want him as coach. You may not agree with my statements, but calling them stupid and then insulting me, just shows how ignorant and stupid you are, but instead of having a civil discussion, I realize it's easier just to be insulting to cover up your own insecurities. However, what should I expect arguing from someone typing this while sitting in their mother's basement. Lastly, I've never been to Greeneville (which in your infinite wisdom you misspelled), but hear it's pretty nice.
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Actually, it doesn't always work that way. Instead of "striking while the iron is hot," he is waiting for a premier job. He is confident enough in his abilities that he can maintain success at his current job and wait for a top 15 basketball program. If he takes UT (even at higher pay) but has to agree to a higher buyout or doesn't succeed as much, then maybe he isn't as marketable. Loyalty is also a good trait. The problem is that our university is not necessarily a destination job in basketball, and we simply won't spend the money for a long time proven coach.
 
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