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The Original Fade said:
The AAC player group wants 20% of revenue. If the SEC had a player group demanding the same % of league revenue, it would amount to $120,000 per football player EACH year, for a total of $480,000 after spending 4 years playing. That’s plus free tuition, room, and board. But yeah, these 18 year olds are reasonable, lol.
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Damn, $120,000 per year? They should pay for their own education, room, board, and income taxes too. This would eliminate a lot of athletic scholarships, especially in the non revenue sports. Mostly the men’s sports due to title IX. I wouldn’t be surprised in the very near future that football scholarships are reduced from 85 to 50 per team.
 
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Players shouldn't be getting a salary from the school, scholarships, housing, food, training and medical, plus a living stipend are all covered by the schools at this point in time, we're talking 30-70 thousand dollars per year depending if you are out of state, what school you go to, etc. To say they are being "exploited" is laughable at best. Now, they should certainly be able to make money off their likenesses though, why should Trevor Lawrence not being able to sign a deal with Nike or whoever. Why should trey Smith not be able to do a commercial for some local company? That doesn't make sense to me. And that would give players an extra source of income if they want it or need it, without having to give them a salary.
 
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IPleadInsanity said:
I'm against players getting paid for only 1 reason, its the end of the sport. Once you start down this road no one knows where it will end. One revenue stream will create 10 others as greed multiplies each issue until the athletic budget dwarfs the total school budget, is it really a school sport at that point. There will be lawsuits by the basket once money, agents and attorneys get involved. The schools will run from being a part of it.
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Can you imagine what happens to recruiting when players start getting paid? Saban and Dabo won’t be meeting with parents in living rooms, they’ll be meeting with player agents in offices
 
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From my perspective this theory of this being more of labor dispute makes more sense. If it has legs, I wouldn’t hire whoever is advising these students to negotiate a car deal. Talk about overplaying a hand.
 
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ZippyMorocco said:
A lot of these players wouldn't be in college if the NFL had a minor league system. That would suit me just fine. Don't let the door hit you in the ass if you don't want to go to class. I will be happy watching the ones who want to be here.
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Consider what MLB minor league players get paid and how many never get called up. I believe the college athlete has a better deal long-term because you graduate with a skill and/or knowledge you can use to generate lifetime income, and you didn't pay a dime for it, plus you got far more exposure to showcase your talent than you will ever get in an NFL minor league nobody will watch.
 
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ZippyMorocco said:
A lot of these players wouldn't be in college if the NFL had a minor league system. That would suit me just fine. Don't let the door hit you in the ass if you don't want to go to class. I will be happy watching the ones who want to be here.
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Consider what MLB minor league players get paid and how many never get called up. I believe the college athlete has a better deal long-term because you graduate with a skill and/or knowledge you can use to generate lifetime income, and you didn't pay a dime for it, plus you got far more exposure to showcase your talent than you will ever get in an NFL minor league nobody will watch.
 
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The Original Fade said:
And yet a sizable portion of this board are for players getting paid. I’m against it because of what we’re seeing now with these players groups, which would only get magnified when they start getting paid.
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It will never be enough money, and then there is the issue of women's sports that will demand "equality and social justice". Men's football and basketball pay all the bills. You start draining that pot to pay the players and other sports are going to suffer.
 
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volroadwarrior said:
NFL players disrespecting our flag and country. Now college players acting like union employees. Bye Bye Football. Been watching replays and old movies. Playing some tennis and not depending on idiots and exploited kids to entertain me.
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Tennis? We talking about tennis? Seriously though, while I played a lot in my younger days, but never thought I'd see tennis mentioned on a Volnation post.
 
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Men's College football and basketball really are a 100% socialist enterprise, in that the money football players generate doesn't go directly to them; it goes to pay for the women's softball team that gens up very little revenue, swimming, soccer etc... You are playing for the good of the collective. For someone else to have an opportunity to play sports on a full ride scholarship at your university. It would be interesting to see a real detailed analysis on where all the revenue generated goes in the Athletic Department, and whether there is even enough there to pay players and keep all the bills paid for the other sports.
 
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Doctrippin said:
Men's College football and basketball really are a 100% socialist enterprise, in that the money football players generate doesn't go directly to them; it goes to pay for the women's softball team that gens up very little revenue, swimming, soccer etc... You are playing for the good of the collective. For someone else to have an opportunity to play sports on a full ride scholarship at your university. It would be interesting to see a real detailed analysis on where all the revenue generated goes in the Athletic Department, and whether there is even enough there to pay players and keep all the bills paid for the other sports.
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It’s kinda like cable TV. Mtv and some of that other crap would never survive if you paid for individual channels instead of a package.
 
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WBO said:
I appreciate how you feel about this, I really do, because disrespect to the flag inherently bothers me, But the freedom to do these things is one of the reasons I served and retired as a Naval Aviator and officer. It is the protection of the most objectionable expressions of speech that protects the rights for us all. When you say it's ok to prohibit one form of political speech then you never know where that will stop.

The Navy has a program called Survival Evasion Resistance and Escape ("SERE") School. It's a multifaceted course that ends up with you spending several days in a POW camp complete with beatings and waterboarding. The idea is to teach a bunch of Type A's that it's really true that "there ain't a horse that can't be rode and a man that can't be throw'd" and that the way to survive captivity is to take the small victories and to know that you still have some control. The last day of the program the instructors would line you up and while verbally abusing you would drag an American flag around in the dirt and set it on fire. The POWs reacted negatively.

Yes that was disrespectful to the flag but it was about making a training point. The protestors are doing an extreme act to make you notice. I don't particularly care for it but I understand the reason. They are making an important societal point.
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He isn’t claiming that they don’t have the right to do it. He is saying that if they do it, he will no longer watch and spend his money in support of it. That is precisely the correct response. When enough people vote with their wallets the way he is saying he will do, the sport will fold as a result of the college athletes’ entitled belief that they can force their liberal views and politics on the rest of the world because they can play football.
 
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Doctrippin said:
Men's College football and basketball really are a 100% socialist enterprise, in that the money football players generate doesn't go directly to them; it goes to pay for the women's softball team that gens up very little revenue, swimming, soccer etc... You are playing for the good of the collective. For someone else to have an opportunity to play sports on a full ride scholarship at your university. It would be interesting to see a real detailed analysis on where all the revenue generated goes in the Athletic Department, and whether there is even enough there to pay players and keep all the bills paid for the other sports.
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You can thank Title IX and liberal activist judges for that.
 
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Perhaps in their wisdom, the P5 leaders see that this anarchist BLM astroturf uprising will have run its course by next year after the election - since all of this is viewed through that lens by the people who make such things happen. Then the activism will have toned down, top athletes will be desperate simply to play so they dont miss the NFL money train like the ones will this year. Remains to be seen, however.

What will be especially sad, however, is the blood curdling screams from basically all women's sports and everything but basketball and football at big programs go lights out while students everywhere get a real life lesson in economics. That means all those schollys die too.
 
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davethevol said:
Once it’s unionized it’s done. I can’t imagine any other groups of college students being allowed to unionize and hold universities hostage with their demands. They’d get kicked out of school.
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Actually it happens all the time...groups and alliances make demands for change.
 
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BreatheUT said:
Exactly. Somewhere along the lines football and all sports have gone from I'm fortunate to have this wonderful opportunity in college to I should getting paid and let's form unions led by the likes of states like Calfornia. It is an extracurricular amateur activity.
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U can thank recruiting for that. Its hard to convince an athlete that he is a student 1st when he has 20 schools fighting for his services. Those guys help produce millions that benefit programs long after their free schooling is over. Imagine if football had a G-league like the NBA. College sports as a whole would be in serious trouble.
 
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davethevol said:
Not like this. This would completely change their status as college students.
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The number of boards that would have to sign off on any agreement are mind-boggling. You've got all the Athletic Departments, university administration, boards of regents, and then the state legislatures would have to get involved. In fact, state legislatures could get out in front of this thing now and ban unions from college sports. The players that thought they could just make a threat and get an agreement made have no idea what they are talking about.
 
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