Several better runners in SEC than Bo Jackson, including Jamal Lewis.

When we 're talking "legend", I'm talking about when HIS began. NFL films didn't have a crew stationed at his Alabama high school or at Auburn. You know those fun highlights that start on Twitter and end up on ESPN? How many of his did we miss? :)

Who in the conversation wasn't a legend in HS?

I am saying Lebron might be a better athlete...he was so good he went straight to the NBA and dominated. It's cool that Bo was good at college football, though.
 
Who in the conversation wasn't a legend in HS?

I am saying Lebron might be a better athlete...he was so good he went straight to the NBA and dominated. It's cool that Bo was good at college football, though.

Lebron had a lot of highlights that fueled his "legend" dating back to AAU. Kinda fueled his senior year of high school being a mere formality/coronation before the rules of the day ALLOWED him to jump directly to the NBA...couldn't do it NOW. Remember when YOU brought up the whole "legend" thing in the first place? :wink2: I agree that Lebron was/is a great athlete and doesn't influence my belief that Bo Jackson was a level above him.
Bo was great at college football,college baseball,pro baseball and pro football. It's cool that Lebron didn't play college football, though. :)
 
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Lebron had a lot of highlights that fueled his "legend" dating back to AAU. Kinda fueled his senior year of high school being a mere formality/coronation before the rules of the day ALLOWED him to jump directly to the NBA...couldn't do it NOW. Remember when YOU brought up the whole "legend" thing in the first place? :wink2: I agree that Lebron was/is a great athlete and doesn't influence my belief that Bo Jackson was a level above him.
Bo was great at college football,college baseball,pro baseball and pro football. It's cool that Lebron didn't play college football, though. :)

I'm not holding it against Bo that he can't jump straight to the NFL. What I am saying is his college career is not as impressive as Lebron's first 4 years in the NBA.
 
I'm not holding it against Bo that he can't jump straight to the NFL. What I am saying is his college career is not as impressive as Lebron's first 4 years in the NBA.

I think it was. That was when the Heisman still had credibility. Bo didn't have personal coaches and still dominated in sports that didn't have the NBA's look at me factor.
 
Walker is the best I've ever seen at the running back position. Webb is the best Vol I've seen. I would've loved to see what he could've been.
 
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I think it was. That was when the Heisman still had credibility.

How did the Heisman have more credibility back then? There were 3 games on TV a week. Nobody got to see anybody.

There are lots of guys who won Heisman. Something like 80 of them. Name a guy who did ROY, 2nd team All-NBA (twice), and 1st team All-NBA by 22? The list is very short, if anybody else is on it. Pretty sure he is the only one.

Bo didn't have personal coaches and still dominated in sports that didn't have the NBA's look at me factor.

Irrelevent
 
Just for fun, Lebron vs Bo

100m - Bo
200m - push
400m - Lebron
800m - Lebron
1600m - Lebron
Long jump - Lebron
High jump - Lebron
Triple jump - Lebron
Pole Vault - Bo
Javelin - Bo
Discus - push
Shotput - Bo
 
Deion and Brian Jordan were both great athletes, especially Deion, played 2 sports, and literally no one puts them in best athlete category. Nobody would pick them over Lebron.

Bo's legend grew because he got hurt.

The guy won the Heisman Trophy. The legend was firmly in place before he ever went pro.
 
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You've clearly never played Tecmo Bowl.

Bo made the Raiders very hard to stop in the original Tecmo Bowl. The best way to stop him was to call his one play every down, but then your opponent could just hand it off to Marcus Allen.

In Tecmo Super Bowl, Bo was crazy good but imo not as good as the passing offenses + run game you got from teams like the Eagles, 49ers, Bills, Giants and Oilers (ok no running game for the Oilers)
 
How did the Heisman have more credibility back then? There were 3 games on TV a week. Nobody got to see anybody.

There are lots of guys who won Heisman. Something like 80 of them. Name a guy who did ROY, 2nd team All-NBA (twice), and 1st team All-NBA by 22? The list is very short, if anybody else is on it. Pretty sure he is the only one.



Irrelevent

Bo Jackson didn't play basketball. The Heisman was credible because the voters were more interested in actual performamce instead of making statements. The Woodson Heisman was them deciding Peyton wasn't winning it. I managed to see regional SEC games on TBS back then. A lot of voters still vote regionally.

You saying a kid having experts coach them since practically elementary school versus another working on most of his skills by himself while playing different sports is. "Irrelevant" doesn't make it so. I disagree...so it's relevant. :)
 
Just for fun, Lebron vs Bo

100m - Bo
200m - push
400m - Lebron
800m - Lebron
1600m - Lebron
Long jump - Lebron
High jump - Lebron
Triple jump - Lebron
Pole Vault - Bo
Javelin - Bo
Discus - push
Shotput - Bo

Fantasy is fun. :)
 
At the end of Payton's career, Jimbo Covert,Tom Thayer,Jay Hilgenberg and Mark Bortz took a backseat to nobody. In the Super Bowl season and the couple following that finished up Sweetness career, several were named to the Pro Bowl. See previous post concerning Smith. It was a great line...but they benefitted from him also.

The difference in the surrounding cast isn't even close. I'm not knocking Smith, but Payton had nowhere close to the line, QB or receivers as he had.
 
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