Serious question: is hostessgate an issue anymore?

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Serious question:

Forde / Travis / Mandel / somebody said the redacted portions of the letter are mainly about hostessgate.

Does this mean that's off the books now, or are there simply too many student names in the sections to show?
 
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with all the other problems at UT, a bunch of hot hostesses banging players is the least of the NCAA's concerns.
 
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utgibbs said:
Serious question:

Forde / Travis / Mandel / somebody said the redacted portions of the letter are mainly about hostessgate.

Does this mean that's off the books now, or are there simply too many student names in the sections to show?
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Too many students' names. The report does apparently state Reaves was directing them to do what they did, so that lame defense from the Kiffin crowd is over.
 
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utgibbs said:
Serious question:

Forde / Travis / Mandel / somebody said the redacted portions of the letter are mainly about hostessgate.

Does this mean that's off the books now, or are there simply too many student names in the sections to show?
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VegasVol said:
Too many students' names. The report does apparently state Reaves was directing them to do what they did, so that lame defense from the Kiffin crowd is over.
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As much as it hurts you guys, UT football is going to be just fine post Fulmer.
 
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I'd be willing to wager that young Ms. Earps' name is one blacked out in at least one of the football paragraphs.
 
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Rock33 said:
What ? Did somebody "pop off" on a message board and now their worried about their comments coming back ???????:whistling:
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New York Times reporter Pete Trammel (spelling?) Cited this thread and effectively opened hostess gate.
 
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tvolsfan said:
As much as it hurts you guys, UT football is going to be just fine post Fulmer.
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Yes, it has certainly has improved dramatically since the Hambone Experiment.

As much as it hurts you guys, Hambone firing Fulmer was a big mistake.
 
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VegasVol said:
Too many students' names. The report does apparently state Reaves was directing them to do what they did, so that lame defense from the Kiffin crowd is over.
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I think it MIGHT state more than direction. like docuemntation proving payment for trip..
 
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utgibbs said:
Yes, it has certainly has improved dramatically since the Hambone Experiment.

As much as it hurts you guys, Hambone firing Fulmer was a big mistake.
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It is obvious that your love for Phil far exceeds your love for Tennessee. Why don't you just go pull for whoever Phil is coaching now? Wait a sec. He isn't coaching anywhere now, is he? Wonder why that is? Could never be because he is washed up and the game passed him by,right? No, of course not.
 
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LWSVOL said:
I think it MIGHT state more than direction. like docuemntation proving payment for trip..
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That would be big. I really hope that allegation, if present on the LOA, is also followed by the phrase "after being instructed this would be a rules violation by the UT compliance office".
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utgibbs said:
Yes, it has certainly has improved dramatically since the Hambone Experiment.

As much as it hurts you guys, Hambone firing Fulmer was a big mistake.
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The highlighted portion of your statement is THE big mistake.
 
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It was all the negative publicity and the manner in which Hamilton fired Fulmer that hurt UT. It wasn't the act itself.
 
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utvolpj said:
yep he should have been gone much earlier
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I agree, but it should have been announced right after the Kentucky game. They were going to let him finish the year out anyway. There really wasn't a need to come right out when they did and announce it, wasn't necessary it my opinion.
 
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Cartervol said:
I agree, but it should have been announced right after the Kentucky game. They were going to let him finish the year out anyway. There really wasn't a need to come right out when they did and announce it, wasn't necessary it my opinion.
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there were going to be other job openings that year and UT wanted to get the jump on candidates. It was a good decision
 
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utvolpj said:
yep he should have been gone much earlier
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In hindsight, I agree that if he had fired him at the end of an earlier season (2005 is the most cited and it will be the most disappointing season of UT football we ever witness), that would have been better for UT than the press conference and process he used. And, Fulmer, too, holds blame for his part in that debacle. As do the players... but Hamilton is the man who is paid to think about how and when to break the news.

Hamilton is a disaster at PR--and that is an important aspect in evaluating his job performance.
 
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I don't remember negative press from anyone who mattered. The most negative it got was after the next weekend's game. It was a decision that had to be made and he made it. Good grief people will complain about anything
 
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utmba93 said:
In hindsight, I agree that if he had fired him at the end of an earlier season (2005 is the most cited and it will be the most disappointing season of UT football we ever witness), that would have been better for UT than the press conference and process he used. And, Fulmer, too, holds blame for his part in that debacle. As do the players... but Hamilton is the man who is paid to think about how and when to break the news.

Hamilton is a disaster at PR--and that is an important aspect in evaluating his job performance.
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Yet to be determined, hopefully that is the case but hopefully I've got alot of living left to do and alot of Big Orange football left to witness, never say never.
 
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utvolpj said:
I don't remember negative press from anyone who mattered. The most negative it got was after the next weekend's game. It was a decision that had to be made and he made it. Good grief people will complain about anything
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Sure, because the decision has provided so many outstanding benefits to the program to date, culminating in the great news delivered yesterday.

Lost as last year's Easter Egg.
 
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utmba93 said:
In hindsight, I agree that if he had fired him at the end of an earlier season (2005 is the most cited and it will be the most disappointing season of UT football we ever witness), that would have been better for UT than the press conference and process he used. And, Fulmer, too, holds blame for his part in that debacle. As do the players... but Hamilton is the man who is paid to think about how and when to break the news.

Hamilton is a disaster at PR--and that is an important aspect in evaluating his job performance.
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Fulmer knew immediately after the USCe game he was canned.

He didn't tell the players. It's a bush league move by Fulmer to have his players find out by ESPN's ticker.
 
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utgibbs said:
Sure, because the decision has provided so many outstanding benefits to the program to date, culminating in the great news delivered yesterday.

Lost as last year's Easter Egg.
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while keeping him as HC was providing so many great things? You're just in the superminority as usual
 
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