Serious question here

[Carl Pickens]

I do like beer though...hey buddy we all want to win, you think CDD can do it I dont, one of us is right and one of us is wrong , it will work out eventually, I just hope sooner (you being right) then later (me being right).........

I'm not cetain that he can, but I think the roster is in far worse shape than a lot of the Dooley haters such as yourself. Poole could start for KY and probably no other team in the SEC...same can be said for Simms....an Oline comprised of sophs and true Frs is not a recipe for success in the SEC....2 true fr starting LBs....no depth on the Dline....a shaky kicker and mediocre punter.....add these together and you get what the Vols have now....a team that's not very good compared to the upper echelon teams of the league. It's too early to run Dooley out of town based on the team's performance at this point.

 

[StlCardinals2618]

You have good points it doesnt explain why our running game is bad though. Bray and Hunter played against Montana Cincy and we could not run. Listen like I told the other guy, you think CDD can do it, I dont, it will work out, one of us is right one of us is wrong we will see....

We actually ran the ball very well against Cincinatti, Dooley said it was Tauren Poole's best game to date. Our line and runningbacks have been inconsistent this year but last year when Bray came in, are running game took a back seat also

 

[kcvols1]

Dooley supporters.....answer this question.

If Dooley is a good coach and the right man for the job then why is our running game worse than last season in which we had true freshman starting on the line?

The same players are even worse at run blocking and Poole even seems to have taken a step back.

We need to fire him right now...the sooner the better...if we fire him now we can get a new coach and still yank in a top 15 recruiting class at worse. A good coach will be able to win big with the talent available next year and our players won't drop like flies from all of these mysterious injuries. If you don't think the injuries aren't because of the coaching/preparation/conditioning program then you are living in lala land. I have never seen any team lose this many key players.

I am so glad your contribution to this program consists of little more than intermittent dream analysis and your regular message board tripe.

 

[dave956]

Answer the freakin question Doolites.

Ya know, we've been over this and over this...

The talent and experience issues are REAL. We went three years in a row with what have turned out to be complete disasters of recruiting classes. WE SIMPLY DO NOT HAVE SEC ELITE LEVEL TALENT! PERIOD!

The players we DO have simply DO NOT have the experience the elite teams do. Someone made a great post the other comparing the experience in quarters played I believe for each SEC team. Alabama had almost TRIPLE the amount of experience as we do, and all the others were almost double.

THIS IS NOT THE FORMULA FOR WINNING IN THE SEC.

We are precisely at the won/lost record most of us predicted in the beginning of the season. Dooley and his have been putting together respectable recruiting classes, and even more importantly, they are staying around!

THINGS WILL GET BETTER.

So really, just chill out and watch the game. Support your Vols. Have a good time. It's a GAME, remember?
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[jberry1990]

To the original poster, it really seems as though you just don't like our head coach. Now, at this time I'm not going to say he's the end all be all answer, but he is our head coach. As fans and supporters of the program we are supposed to stand with the team and coaches during the good and bad. The team is going to through a terribly trying time at the moment, and if you can't recognize that the rebuilding process is going to take some time as opposed to right now, or that you just can't handle it then perhaps it is time you found a new team and coach to cheer for. I don't mean that in the sense that "if ya ain't for us, yer against us", nor am I trying to be rude. What I mean is that you just
don't seem to have what it takes to be a Volunteer fan. From the comments you've made I'm sure our coaching staff won't miss you, our young players(who will be here for a few more years) won't miss you, and your fellow albeit realistic fans won't miss you. Maybe check out LSU, Alabama, Stanford, Oklahoma State, or Boise State. They all seem to be doing well, and probably will have good years next year as well. That way you won't have anything to complain about.
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[Freak]

To the original poster, it really seems as though you just don't like our head coach. Now, at this time I'm not going to say he's the end all be all answer, but he is our head coach. As fans and supporters of the program we are supposed to stand with the team and coaches during the good and bad. The team is going to through a terribly trying time at the moment, and if you can't recognize that the rebuilding process is going to take some time as opposed to right now, or that you just can't handle it then perhaps it is time you found a new team and coach to cheer for. I don't mean that in the sense that "if ya ain't for us, yer against us", nor am I trying to be rude. What I mean is that you just
don't seem to have what it takes to be a Volunteer fan. From the comments you've made I'm sure our coaching staff won't miss you, our young players(who will be here for a few more years) won't miss you, and your fellow albeit realistic fans won't miss you. Maybe check out LSU, Alabama, Stanford, Oklahoma State, or Boise State. They all seem to be doing well, and probably will have good years next year as well. That way you won't have anything to complain about.
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Congrats on your first post. :hi:

Ten months is a long time to wait.

 

[KoachKletus]

To the original poster, it really seems as though you just don't like our head coach. Now, at this time I'm not going to say he's the end all be all answer, but he is our head coach. As fans and supporters of the program we are supposed to stand with the team and coaches during the good and bad. The team is going to through a terribly trying time at the moment, and if you can't recognize that the rebuilding process is going to take some time as opposed to right now, or that you just can't handle it then perhaps it is time you found a new team and coach to cheer for. I don't mean that in the sense that "if ya ain't for us, yer against us", nor am I trying to be rude. What I mean is that you just
don't seem to have what it takes to be a Volunteer fan. From the comments you've made I'm sure our coaching staff won't miss you, our young players(who will be here for a few more years) won't miss you, and your fellow albeit realistic fans won't miss you. Maybe check out LSU, Alabama, Stanford, Oklahoma State, or Boise State. They all seem to be doing well, and probably will have good years next year as well. That way you won't have anything to complain about.
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Your preaching to the choir Jberry. Those of us that understand what this team and coaches have endured this season, remain positive for next year. With good reason. Crunchhisassimus has a vendetta against Dooley. Nothing more. Nothing less. He/she is either a very young Vol fan that wants instant gratification, or a trollbody that just likes to stir up trouble. BTW - welcome to the forum.

 

[jberry1990]

Thanks, I typically just like to catch up on recruiting and pre/post game thoughts and analysis, but it just gets to me when someone can be so negative towards the school we all love. Just felt like finally adding my two cents. Only the interwebz will be able to tell if it amounts to anything.
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[ianpatties]

LMAO at Cinci having a good run D.

Have you looked at their schedule????

And we weren't able to run on them until the 3rd quarter when their D started wearing down from the track meet of Bray, Hunter and Rodgers.

Hey let's let Dooley stick around and continue sucking. He single handedly lost the bowl and LSU games last year. Good idea here...let's let him lose even more UT games. That SC game was a thing of beauty.

SC players were saying...here we give the game to you...Dooley comes back and says, no really, we suck..you take the game..SC no no for you...Dooley I told you we suck dammnit! Even Spurrier couldn't believe how they managed to when in his post game presser.

Good god you are an idiot. With every post it becomes more apparent. "Managed to when"
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[amershamvol]

Dooley supporters.....answer this question.

If Dooley is a good coach and the right man for the job then why is our running game worse than last season in which we had true freshman starting on the line?

The same players are even worse at run blocking and Poole even seems to have taken a step back.

We need to fire him right now...the sooner the better...if we fire him now we can get a new coach and still yank in a top 15 recruiting class at worse. A good coach will be able to win big with the talent available next year and our players won't drop like flies from all of these mysterious injuries. If you don't think the injuries aren't because of the coaching/preparation/conditioning program then you are living in lala land. I have never seen any team lose this many key players.

See Tennessee Vols circa 2005, we were the 3rd ranked team in the country and we got decimated by injuries.
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[kohlrums]

You have good points it doesnt explain why our running game is bad though. Bray and Hunter played against Montana Cincy and we could not run. Listen like I told the other guy, you think CDD can do it, I dont, it will work out, one of us is right one of us is wrong we will see....

Please go check the box score of the Cincy game. Poole had 101 yards on 21 carries. Offense totaled 530. And this was all without the glorious Matt Simms run checks.

Cincinnati is now a top 25 team, and has not lost to anyone besides Tennessee-who destroyed them with their full compliment of players, and if anything shows what this team may have been capable of if major injuries to the most important positions on the football field had not occurred. If you cannot see that, then there is nothing to help you, other than to just stop watching football.

You are just saying things to say them-not of it based on any kind of fact.

How are you connected to this program?

 

[kohlrums]

Thanks, I typically just like to catch up on recruiting and pre/post game thoughts and analysis, but it just gets to me when someone can be so negative towards the school we all love. Just felt like finally adding my two cents. Only the interwebz will be able to tell if it amounts to anything.
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There is no way the OP and his Simple Jack friend love Tennessee.

 

[tnlizard]

Dooley supporters.....answer this question.

If Dooley is a good coach and the right man for the job then why is our running game worse than last season in which we had true freshman starting on the line?

The same players are even worse at run blocking and Poole even seems to have taken a step back.

We need to fire him right now...the sooner the better...if we fire him now we can get a new coach and still yank in a top 15 recruiting class at worse. A good coach will be able to win big with the talent available next year and our players won't drop like flies from all of these mysterious injuries. If you don't think the injuries aren't because of the coaching/preparation/conditioning program then you are living in lala land. I have never seen any team lose this many key players.

Not a smart move.lol: Another idiotic threadlol:

 

[rekinhavoc]

When this team has depth with players who have been in a college strength and conditioning program for more than a few months Dooley will be expected to produce.

 

[Sikerth]

When this team has depth with players who have been in a college strength and conditioning program for more than a few months Dooley will be expected to produce.

You mean that when preseason predictions are 7-5, and we lose our best players before our hardest games.... we shouldn't go 7-5??

 

[lonelawyer]

:nono::nono:I know no one wants to hear it, but there are no quick fixes to our current situation. You have to accept that we are playing in the SEC with a decent junior college team. We have no depth. We have had so much upheaval since Randy Sanders left as OC that it's ridiculous.

Successful coaching requires continuity and chemistry. We certainly have had no continuity, and it takes time to develop chemistry. You and your wife weren't able to magically finish each others sentences on your wedding day.

On top of that, we don't have the advantage of a wealth of instate talent to make the job easier for the coaches.

The only thing that is going to be accomplished by firing someone right now is it will set us back another three to four years, if not longer.

I don't know if Dooley is the answer, but I do know that another staff change will likely be a disaster on many levels.:nono:

 

[Volinnooga]

Even if we fire Chaney we will still have Dooley who will put 13 men on the field and lose the nail biters.

Losing whatever cred you had (and I can't imagine you had any) by reaching way back trying to add insults to CDD.

I got an idea--let's keep CDD and you leave VN.

 

[dodsonj83]

Here's the thing our game was better than last year you had more than just a couple of great receivers. You had five guys that could catch a pass so that would help the run game. I agree that our o-line isn't opening up many holes but when your pass game goes down then the other team can key in on the run. I do think we need a change in the line coach but changing head coaches will only set us back even further than we are. Give him just a little more time.
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[crunchimusmaximus]

There is no way the OP and his Simple Jack friend love Tennessee.

Dude, I live and die by Tennessee. I love them as much or more than anyone else. That is why I am so concerned about all of Dooley's red flags. Everywhere youlook there is a red flag.

You people keep harping on the Cinci win. They are not that good of a team and haven't even played anyone of note. They would also have a losing record in the SEC and are not a legit top 25 team....deep down you all know this when looking at their schedule. Reality is Dooley hasn't beat one good team yet. He almost ad LSU and NC last year but choked those games away HIMSELF. This season, we have regressed in almost every area and play horrible 2nd half football with zero adjustments by the coaching staff after halftime.

I realize we lack depth and talent.....but I am SICK AND TIRED of watching us get outcoached game after game. The ONLY game I have ever seen Dooley out coach someone was the Cinci game. The onside kick changed the entire complexion of that game. He does gamble and I like that, but the lack of 2nd half adjustments, all the penalties and key misfires and the horrible clock management in every game are just too much to bear. Look at the stats....Dooley is winless against ranked teams....look at all the red flags and signs that he can't coach well, especially in game decisions. Also, you know with this team when we are tied at halftime, we are going to give up and flop in the 2nd half. I have NEVER seen a UT team play such uninspired football. Never. Our players seem to give up as soon as something bad happens. I just don't ever see Dooley producing a group of winners.

Also, not to mention, Dooley led teams seem to have the worst luck of any that I have ever seen play CFB. Maybe that is just a coincidence, but it certainly isn't a good sign. I am starting to think this man is just snakebit in a very bad way.

Also, with a new coach, after next year when Bray and Hunter leave, Worely and the rest of the players would be in year 2 of the new coach's system, so they wouldn't have a down year. Making the change now would be the best. At the very least, Chaney and Oline coach need to be fired now.

 

[crunchimusmaximus]

Losing whatever cred you had (and I can't imagine you had any) by reaching way back trying to add insults to CDD.

I got an idea--let's keep CDD and you leave VN.

And we will keep on losing for a longer period of time because of little crybabies like you that refuse to see the forest instead of the trees.

If we get someone who is actually good, we can be good in 2 years again. With Dooley hanging around for one more year, we won't be good until 3 more years at the soonest. Why can't you people see that?

 

[utvolpj]

And we will keep on losing for a longer period of time because of little crybabies like you that refuse to see the forest instead of the trees.

If we get someone who is actually good, we can be good in 2 years again. With Dooley hanging around for one more year, we won't be good until 3 more years at the soonest. Why can't you people see that?

if Dooley stays one more year it will not hurt hurt a new coach's efforts one bit. UT will be better off than when he arrived. Take a look at the recruiting before making posts like this

 

[crunchimusmaximus]

if Dooley stays one more year it will not hurt hurt a new coach's efforts one bit. UT will be better off than when he arrived. Take a look at the recruiting before making posts like this

If a new coach came in right away who was also a good recruiter, we would still finish with a top 10 class. I never wanted Dooley to fail. But the writing is on the wall, he is wasting our time. If we got a new coach who could produce an effective run game, we would compete for the SEC next season....that will never happen with Dooley and Chaney. Now I know why Kiffin called the plays instead of Chaney.

 

[utvolpj]

If a new coach came in right away who was also a good recruiter, we would still finish with a top 10 class. I never wanted Dooley to fail. But the writing is on the wall, he is wasting our time. If we got a new coach who could produce an effective run game, we would compete for the SEC next season....that will never happen with Dooley and Chaney. Now I know why Kiffin called the plays instead of Chaney.

ok I'll ask it a different way so maybe you can reply to the question. Why would Dooley being at UT for 1 additional year hamper a future coach's efforts to win? If that new coach can do it in 2 years right now then why does it require 3 with a better stocked up team?

 

[crunchimusmaximus]

ok I'll ask it a different way so maybe you can reply to the question. Why would Dooley being at UT for 1 additional year hamper a future coach's efforts to win? If that new coach can do it in 2 years right now then why does it require 3 with a better stocked up team?

Because Bray and Hunter are leaving after next year. If we can run the ball next year, we will be unstoppable....simple as that. The only way I would be favor of keeping Dooley is if he fires Chaney immediately and brings in a proven smash mouth guy who makes all of the offensive decisions in game. Dooley needs to just be CEO.

And if a new coach came in, Worley and the rest of the offense would be in year 2 of the new coach's system in 2013 so that likely would not be a down year, however, if Dooley is fired after next season, we won't be able to run the ball again next year and 2013 our players will be in a brand new system. A good coach could possibly win us the SEC in 2012 and 2013.


The passing game will be ther enext year as long as Bray and Hunter are there....we just need to be able to run the ball and make good 2nd half adjustments. And the oline has to start playing better and not shooting themselves in the foot. Pass protection has been getting better, but run blocking and false start penalties at key moments are really limiting our offense.

 

[tmodaniel]

Dude, I live and die by Tennessee. I love them as much or more than anyone else.

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