Serious question for the OU fans on the board

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Y'all remember the true enemy here. UGA. They are the absolute worst trolls on the site.
 
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Sandvol said:
You guys are like one more recruiting class away from mediocrity aren't you? After this year it should be it.
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LOL here we go another VOL fan that thinks top 10 classes matter at OU....OU wins regardless. Always have
 
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As a Sooner fan I hate that we are being judged poorly because of the few mouthy fools that only know how to sound.... Well foolish. As has been stated before, all fan bases have them. As far as the game goes, I believe it comes down to how well the LB's play for both teams. Both teams will be playing to the others weakness/strengths on offense or defense. Kicking teams are pretty much a push.
Actually all across the board everything pretty much evens out. So to me it comes down to the LB. I personally don't believe you can put much stock in the previous year. There are always changes in any given team from year to year. Therefore, the previous year has very little impact on the current season.
Both teams held back in their opening game. Holding back for this game or for their respective conferences? We will see tomorrow. I for one have enjoyed the series and the build up to this years game. Good luck tomorrow and for the remainder of the season
 
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Jasooner said:
Listen man, every OU fan is not knowledgeable of what they're looking at beyond the final score, highlights, and stats. This is actually true of MANY football fans in general...including your own.

I've seen Tenn fans giving a "scouting" report on Perine, how to pronounce his name, and what kinda player he is......YET he ran for 70+ yards against Tenn last year.
I guess some of you missed that game, huh?

I'm not super confident in the way we played against Akron in some aspects. But at the same time, other areas looked good and it's still the first game with a new offensive scheme and new defensive scheme. There's no delegated pre-season in cfb to sharpen up.

My prediction for Sat., if we can run the ball, even moderately, we have a good chance to be successful b/c that will open up the passing game. That and limited turnovers.

Defensively is my main concern. Passes over the middle resulting in YAC, and Dobbs running on 3rd and 6-7's, etc. We HAVE to get off the field on 3rd down. The misdirection runs to the edges with Hurd/Kamara running at our CBs. That's a concern.

As an OU fan, this game is a toss up to me.

And every OU player or coach has mentioned Dobbs at some point this week with respect as someone to stop and theyre all super excited about playing in Neyland. On a personal note, it's probably my fav stadium outside of Oklahoma Memorial.

I'm not sure why you Tenn fans are attacking every OU fan on this board b/c your fans have been posting comfortably on our board for over a year. But do what you do.
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One thing about Volnation that all fans need to learn is that we let anyone join. A lot of posters on here pretend to be Vol fans but they are not. They are trolls from other teams.(FL, AL, ...)They post rude and crude comments to our opposition each week to make us look bad. I challenge any opponent's fans to visit a game in Neyland and see how you are treated. 99/100 you will have a good time because you will be treated well.:hi:
 
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AWR90 said:
LOL here we go another VOL fan that thinks top 10 classes matter at OU....OU wins regardless. Always have
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You are going to be lucky to make top 25 this year aren't you? It appears all the recruits can see that Stoops is losing it.
 
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jordan4vols said:
What from your last weeks game against Akron gives you a ton of confidence coming into this game? I have visited a few other boards and while no doubt a 42-3 victory is lopsided, I have watched the game on youtube and there were quite a bit of struggles from the o-line. This coming at home and against Akron. All due respect, but its Akron. We did give up a lot of yards through the air so we admit to that possible struggle. The comments I see coming from Oklahoma fans chalking this up as a victory because Striker dominated the game last year or because our Offensive line last year seem to be delusional honestly. Obviously our qb was a statute last year behind a weak o-line and it showed. This year is different on both fronts.

So my main question is, is it your defense you think will hold down our offense? Or do you think because of our secondary issues from game one it will be a shootout that we can't keep up with?

P.S. As a side note in case you haven't watched UT's full game I would do so. We had 2 TD's taken off the board because of penalties on offense and I throw out the defensive touchdown that was called back because we scored on the next possession after the punt. We missed 2 field goals and called off the dogs after the last TD run. We could have put up 80. While our defense did not have as good of a performance as your defense, your offense did not have as good of a day as our offense. And last year without their starting qb bowling green beat Akron 27-10 @ Akron
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Why would any OU fan watch our game against freaking Bowling Green? There is no way it matters or is interesting enough to watch. We could have put up 80? We didn't. We will play in 24 hours and we will both know what kind of team we will have. I have not watched 30 seconds of Oklahoma's game against Akron
 
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Am I gping insane or am I the only one who thinks the 2 missed FGs came on the drives that the penalties wiped out those TDs?
 
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AWR90 said:
I just think Riley has a bag of tricks left and OU is the worst match up TN will face this year. Either team can win this game, but I think the difference might come down to OUs ability to spread the field with weapons everywhere that will wear TNs big Dline down. I do believe if TN loses they win the east this year regardless. if OU loses we will probably still win the big 12.
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I will argue that UT has just as many weapons (providing North plays like he's healthy, Pig has little rust and the 2 FR WRs that could be really special dont stink it up).
My only beef (side.note) with any OU fans easily predicting a W is that last year UTs OL was bad and OU dominated. This year OU could have a bad.line and get dominated.
Both teams should have success and look like they've.got plwnty to work on if they plan on winning their divisions. Great.game, and I will say both teams will probably hit 30. Could be 17-16 tho lol
 
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dwebb said:
As a Sooner fan I hate that we are being judged poorly because of the few mouthy fools that only know how to sound.... Well foolish. As has been stated before, all fan bases have them. As far as the game goes, I believe it comes down to how well the LB's play for both teams. Both teams will be playing to the others weakness/strengths on offense or defense. Kicking teams are pretty much a push.
Actually all across the board everything pretty much evens out. So to me it comes down to the LB. I personally don't believe you can put much stock in the previous year. There are always changes in any given team from year to year. Therefore, the previous year has very little impact on the current season.
Both teams held back in their opening game. Holding back for this game or for their respective conferences? We will see tomorrow. I for one have enjoyed the series and the build up to this years game. Good luck tomorrow and for the remainder of the season
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Hmm, LB may be important for OU but I am not convinced. We will likely be in a nickel most of the game so I would say DB play will be most important for the Vols.

LB play may be important for OU but a lot of OU fans don't seem to have much respect for our passing attack. We have potential to have some really explosive plays there and we didn't show much of that part of our offense against BGSU by design.
 
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Honestly, as the game approaches, I could say, "I hate Smokey and someone would get pissed." A rivalry is starting and I don't like. Stay chill, Sooner and Vols fans.
 
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ArsenalSooner said:
There is no doubt we have questions at oline. I think, like you guys, we are looking for some answers this weekend as far as what we can expect this season and how bad the weaknesses really are. I think most OU fans recognize that. All that being said, I think you're reading too much into both teams' opening games. You say you called off the dogs and could have scored a lot more points, but we did the same. Overall, I think both teams will look a lot different this weekend on both sides of the ball.

If you spend all week reading the boards then it's easy to make a case for both teams being overconfident. That's the message board world for you. I'm not ready to talk any trash until I've seen some more of my team. Besides, I'm almost as excited about the match up of two of college footballs greatest ever programs as I am the result.

Boomer.
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It's groundhog day for both teams.

And..what the heck is a boomer?
 
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jordan4vols said:
What from your last weeks game against Akron gives you a ton of confidence coming into this game? I have visited a few other boards and while no doubt a 42-3 victory is lopsided, I have watched the game on youtube and there were quite a bit of struggles from the o-line. This coming at home and against Akron. All due respect, but its Akron. We did give up a lot of yards through the air so we admit to that possible struggle. The comments I see coming from Oklahoma fans chalking this up as a victory because Striker dominated the game last year or because our Offensive line last year seem to be delusional honestly. Obviously our qb was a statute last year behind a weak o-line and it showed. This year is different on both fronts.

So my main question is, is it your defense you think will hold down our offense? Or do you think because of our secondary issues from game one it will be a shootout that we can't keep up with?

P.S. As a side note in case you haven't watched UT's full game I would do so. We had 2 TD's taken off the board because of penalties on offense and I throw out the defensive touchdown that was called back because we scored on the next possession after the punt. We missed 2 field goals and called off the dogs after the last TD run. We could have put up 80. While our defense did not have as good of a performance as your defense, your offense did not have as good of a day as our offense. And last year without their starting qb bowling green beat Akron 27-10 @ Akron
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You never want to base everything on the first game due to first game jitters, etc.

You always base it on the first real team that each team plays.
 
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jordan4vols said:
What from your last weeks game against Akron gives you a ton of confidence coming into this game? I have visited a few other boards and while no doubt a 42-3 victory is lopsided, I have watched the game on youtube and there were quite a bit of struggles from the o-line. This coming at home and against Akron. All due respect, but its Akron. We did give up a lot of yards through the air so we admit to that possible struggle. The comments I see coming from Oklahoma fans chalking this up as a victory because Striker dominated the game last year or because our Offensive line last year seem to be delusional honestly. Obviously our qb was a statute last year behind a weak o-line and it showed. This year is different on both fronts.

So my main question is, is it your defense you think will hold down our offense? Or do you think because of our secondary issues from game one it will be a shootout that we can't keep up with?

P.S. As a side note in case you haven't watched UT's full game I would do so. We had 2 TD's taken off the board because of penalties on offense and I throw out the defensive touchdown that was called back because we scored on the next possession after the punt. We missed 2 field goals and called off the dogs after the last TD run. We could have put up 80. While our defense did not have as good of a performance as your defense, your offense did not have as good of a day as our offense. And last year without their starting qb bowling green beat Akron 27-10 @ Akron
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The o-line did have some struggles last week, which I think is to be expected with the inexperience at 3 positions. You guys dealt with the same thing last year, as you well know. I'm honestly not in panic mode about it. Akron stacked the box, and for much of the first qtr it appeared we were running straight into it just to see if we could beat it. Obviously it didn't work. But the passing game opened up the run in the 2nd half and we busted off a few nice ones. Akron also has 2 4-star Ohio St transfers on the line and an All MAC Lineman, so although Akron's team as a whole is terrible, that was good experience for OUr line. Other than that, another positive was Mayfield's accuracy and quick release. He'll need it this week. I like his enthusiasm too. Watching him sprint and high step 80 yards down the field after a TD pass just to tackle Mixon in the end zone was fun to watch.

To answer your main question, I think our offense should be able to pass the ball well if the weather isn't terrible. For all the talk about BGSU's QB, he only completed 55% of his passes. Anything less than 65% is unacceptable for a college QB in a spread attack in my opinion, but we've been spoiled with some really good quarterbacks over the years. No one really knows yet if Mayfield is the next great one, but the early signs are promising. I also think our defense will be better this year than last, especially against the run. We won't shut down Hurd, Dobbs, and Kamara on the ground, but we won't allow anywhere close to 6 rushing TDs either.

By your logic on 80 points, BGSU could have scored about 58 points as well. However, holding is illegal, your kicker performed like his shoe laces were tied together, and those MAC refs were atrocious. It's all part of the game. Hypotheticals don't count on the scoreboard.

And thanks for starting a serious post. There's been some quality discussion in this thread.
 
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ntxVOL said:
The Vols do not expect to come out and pound the rock against OU. We are not Alabama circa 2012. This has been one of the more frustrating points when discussing this game with the Sooners. Our WR corpse is at least top 3 in the SEC. Expect a balanced attack from the Vols on Saturday.
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I would expect a balanced attack as well. I doubt Butch wants to give OU confidence that they can stop the run from the onset. I don't think either team wants to get in the one-dimensional aspect. Use the pass to set up the run. We have all kinds of WR talent as long as Dobbs can get the ball to them. A fast pass-rush is only inviting a center screen. By the same token we have to stop OUs running attack, according to Butch they also have 3 guys that can run the ball, so it will be fun; tackling on both sides will be important.
 
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terrypedigo said:
Its time to put up or shut up, most of our fans myself included have ran there damn mouth all summer about how bad we are going to kick there azz and after last Saturday some myself included have second thought about the game, not going to back down now we TENNESSEE will kick there azz back to Norman Oklahoma come Saturday night by at least 14 points, dont jump on the wagon after we give them a azz whipping:bottom:Oklahoma is just another team that will get steam rolled by the BIG ORANGE on our way to a special season, we wont win them all but we will take care of Boomer Sooner and shut Strikers mouth shut, thats whats going to happen in KNOXVILLE,TENNESSEE, BIG ORANGE ROLLS 37-23, and we TENNESSEE FANS DONT HAVE TO TAKE BS anymore.:yahooGOING TO BE FIRE WORKS SATURDAY NIGHT IN K-TOWN.:fireworks::fireworks::fireworks::fireworks::fireworks:
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14 IS the magic number. VOLS by 14 I agree.
 
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For the OU fans that are being respectful welcome to VN. After the troll fest yesterday some VNers are on blast first ask questions later so keep that in mind. Quite a few OU fans actually came to talk some football and a little smack talk. Hope the OU fans visiting Neyland have a great time and enjoy some good tailgating.
 
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AWR90 said:
LOL here we go another VOL fan that thinks top 10 classes matter at OU....OU wins regardless. Always have
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That's because you play real football teams 1-2x's per year, not 7-8x's like we do. It's easy to get your boys hyped up once per year. I hate bama and am glad you whipped them a couple years ago but you were hyped up to play them and they were disappointed to play you.. who do you think is going to play better in that scenario?

Your conference is so pathetic you had to recruit West Virginia just to keep it afloat. The great Colorado jumped off your ship. Big12 or whatever it's called now is a joke. Keep beating your chest about dominating that cupcake conference why don't ya.
 
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okie52 said:
I have a negative outlook. OU sucked on pass defense last year and we have a new O line, new QB, new Offensive coordinator and a new offensive scheme. I'd be surprised if OU wins this game (hope I'm wrong, of course).
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I'll drink to that
 
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GRN1926 said:
That's because you play real football teams 1-2x's per year, not 7-8x's like we do. It's easy to get your boys hyped up once per year. I hate bama and am glad you whipped them a couple years ago but you were hyped up to play them and they were disappointed to play you.. who do you think is going to play better in that scenario?

Your conference is so pathetic you had to recruit West Virginia just to keep it afloat. The great Colorado jumped off your ship. Big12 or whatever it's called now is a joke. Keep beating your chest about dominating that cupcake conference why don't ya.
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Well, we can't help it. You know, our school is in a heavily scorched area of the earth, don't ya know?

Whether 'Bama was up to it or not, they were getting their asses handed to 'em. As for conference, I somewhat agree with you about the Big 12. It is a joke to an extent, but I believe that has to do more with the split and in-fighting in the conference to some degree. So we recruited WV? Big deal. They've proven they can ball. Why bring up Colorado?? The buffs haven't done anything in over 2 decades.

Here is what I am going to tell you, based on observations as a football fan, a former HS coach and small time collegiate player. Talent matters. However...talent doesn't mean jack if it isn't brought to full potential-throttle. I've seen many 3* athletes outshine the 4-5* ones. Cam Sutton ring a bell???
I bring this up because in a sense, you are correct about being a cupcake conference. We don't necessarily have a lot of 4-5* players (at least not at any one school). But trust me when I say this...those 3* athletes that probably dominate the Big 12 can become mighty dangerous. And not being disrespectful to the SEC, but really...what was the SEC as a whole before the 2000's?

Oh, and let me remind you. Bob Stoops has at least a SEC title and NC while coaching in the SEC. Butch's time will come if he keeps at it. But for the moment, Stoops -1, Butch -0.
 
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