Senior leadership

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Does anyone remember the story about the first time Peyton walked into the huddle in a game ( I think it was UCLA)? He went in there all hyped up and was telling the offense how they were gonna drive down the field and score. I can't remember who it was but someone told him to shut the F up and call the play. Why haven't any of the seniors on this years on this years team done that to Capt. front runner Eric Ainge? The way he acted when he completed the two point play made me sick. I bet if Spencer Riley or Trey Teague seen that they were sick too. I hate a guy that acts like an idiot on the football field. Maybe TN has too many guys on the team that have been to ld how good they are. What do you think?
 
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I didn't see the game because I am at work, but I did listen to it. To answer your question, we have no leadership on offense. Just a bunch of guys that cry and moan a lot. You have to admit though, a two point conversion. I would've been pretty excited too.
 
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Well, it's too late for senior leadership now.
 
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Originally posted by Orangewhiteblood@Nov 5, 2005 9:14 PM
Well, it's too late for senior leadership now.
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yea seriously :shakehead:
 
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I gotta admit. I was surprised as hell when we made that 2 point conversion.
 
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Originally posted by USAF_Vol@Nov 5, 2005 9:26 PM
I gotta admit.  I was surprised as hell when we made that 2 point conversion.
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It all seemed a little too good to be true. At least we had a few drives today. :ill_h4h:
 
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Originally posted by Orangewhiteblood@Nov 5, 2005 9:29 PM
It all seemed a little too good to be true.  At least we had a few drives today.      :ill_h4h:
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Yeah. What culda been. :cry:
 
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Would it be too much to ask if Jesse plays center??

Just get him out of the "tackle the crap out of the guy with the ball" thing and turn it to blocking.

Foster would have 200+ a game.
 
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I think he's still got the shell shock mentality of last year's injury. Give the guy some protection and he calms down a little. He was hurried and rushed and sacked. That causes a guy who got injured bad last year to really lose confidence and resort to panicking.

I think if the fat boy front line would have given him more protection and time he would improve greatly.
 
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In this style of offense and how the QB plays into it, you need the system built up well around him. A line that can protect, receivers who actually try and catch the ball and a solid, reliable running game. With the way things our going now, I doubt even Peyton Manning could play well.

I'm not saying Ainge isn't playing bad, but I am saying there is a good possibility that he (or even Clausen) would be playing better if they had the right ingredients.
 
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I agree- Peyton would do better but only because he would stay calm, and therefore: 1: find about 5% more pass completion opportunites; and, more importantly, 2: understand the greater strategic value of just sucking it up and taking the ugly sack rather than frantically trying to make something happen even if it meant greater odds of an interception or intentional grounding call.

Peyton was not only a natural leader, but there were other natural leaders on the O and D with him. Under Fulmer, the only place you get leadership is from the players on the field. If Peyton or Tee was playing now, all they'd be doing is reducing our suck-factors through superior ability to recognize that the game lasts 4 quarters, so there's less probable returns from forcing things than taking a reaming on any particular play.
 
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Marginal at best- because when you aren't getting psychological leadership from the adults on the sidelines before the game, there's only so much a single leader-kid can do during a game.

The only difference we'd have would be fewer desperate mistakes/ more big sacks, and more tv-shots of Peyton/ Tee heroically overcoming their natural urges to plant their foot up fellow player's and/or coaches butts.

The problems are team-wide on O, and they're mental, and coaching based. One better player/leader, even at qb, just can't overcome that on a consistent basis.

UT under Peyton didn't lose to Memphis in '96 by a fluke. It was bound to happen eventually. It happened because all the psych leadership was onfield, and when the players had a down day, that was it- all they could expect from the sidelines was desperate changes in play-calling & other signs that the adults didn't have a clue what was missing....
 
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As i see it. Ainge has yet to slow the game down mentally.
Drop back and panic. He did reach down inside enough to grab his "jewels" and run for his life. Several times there was someone open or atleast dump off too, instead of making dirt with the ball.
Leadership, well that starts at QB. If i lose my private bet of a savings bond, Crompton starts against Cal.
CPF hates starwars :birgits_giggle:
 
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Originally posted by duckman398686@Nov 5, 2005 9:35 PM
again i say.....what did he do??
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He held up a sign that said......"until you fire Randy Sanders, The sign stays".
 
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Originally posted by CSpindizzy@Nov 6, 2005 12:22 AM
I think he's still got the shell shock mentality of last year's injury.
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Bingo!!

Notice how he had to check back into reality when he took that hit on his scramble out of the pocket and got the helmet-helmet contact penalty?

He was finished at that point, time then or time later.
 
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the boy just tied the game up with an excellent throw fro a 2pt conversion, give him a break what'd you expect him to do walk off with his head down?
 
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Ainge played OK for three quarters. When he decides to get serious he will be a good QB. He just needs to watch film and prepare and stay out of the girls dorm.
 
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I've said it all season what our rifleman Ainge needs is a solid QB mechanics coach to work with him 1-1. Then again I once saw Dan Marino walk off the field after throwing 3 straight passes that hit recivers in the hands and were dropped...and say to the WR coach 'I can throw the damn thing but I can't catch it too!''
 
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I definetly expect him to not showboat after the play. Especially with the type of season they are having. As for what he did, after the completion he ran off the field doing what looked like jazz hands or something. As soon as they got down again he wilted. I think he is a front runner and if he's the future of the program I want nothing to do with it.
 
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