Self entitlement

[VFL22]

This is the behavior most displayed on VN.

It is a problem with modern american culture. It will not get fixed by this thread I guarantee you that.

People, fans, feel like they deserve more but yet they give less. They don't research they regurgitate information. They fail to discover the truth, they spread lies and rumors. The irony...

VN and many of its members are like this country. Uneducated and only repeating what someone else has said forming the ignorant lynch mob on a witch hunt.

Hysteria has set in and realism has been discarded. People remove true factors to make points. The sad and depressed are loud and gaining momentum by spreading false propaganda.

Take a real look at this team and truly evaluate what this program has been through. I'm disgusted with the reactions of the VN posters who continue to bring this attitude of negativity around.

I could ignore them but f it I'm a man and I'll fight them. I'll stand true as a fan and support this team and it's coaching staff.

Not a single negative poster has done a damn thing to deserve a better team. You are not entitled this because you feel you deserve it. Great teams earn it, they do things right. From the staff to the players to the fans all is done to build not destroy.

Destruction got us here and it is not the solution. You may want it now but what have you done to deserve it?

If those who talk **** are going to be loud then I'll be louder. I support this team top to bottom. UT football is a game but it creates a bond between my son and myself. We enjoy it as fans. And I for one am fed up with all of this I deserve this, lets change not work, lets find the easy way out crap.

It's not easy to recover from what this program has been through. Stop allowing the negatives to win and dominate. They are ignorant and know not what they do.

At no point in this rambling, incoherent response was this even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.

 

[preacherwebb]

Total nonsense. This, and every other football forum is for discussion. It's not a cheerleading site, where the objective is to go rah rah rah. Adults should be able to discuss and debate, disagreeing without serious acrimony. I am not in either the "negavol" or "sunshine pumper" camp, ect, ect, ect ....

Acrimony?:blink:

Yes, as a matter of fact I did have to look it up.

Acrimony - Figuratively, sharpness or severity of temper; bitterness of expression proceeding from anger, ill-nature, or petulance (Webster 1828 dictionary)

Nice Word Pie Jones, Nice Word!!! :good!::salute::clap::bow2:

 

[vols4evah]

I agree with the OP.
In fact its a little uncanny how much we think alike, I too have felt like this was an example of the "Lynch mob syndrome" and how some people get so angry that they lose all reason and go nuts.

These people don't care about anything except their anger and their demands and they want to shove it down everybody else's throat. They make post after post everyday all day long spouting their anger and hatred, without regard for how this may effect potential recruits or our team. (Yes these kids DO check all the message boards to see whats being written about them and the program.)

They are like petulant children who want their demands filled NOW NOW NOW. You cant make a positive thread on these forums without them coming into it and spewing their smart-ass insults and negativity. They act like they are the final authority on everything that's football , when in truth they are ignorant,selfish,rash,clueless and immature. What they are doing and continue to do serves no purpose and does no good for anything or anybody. They have no positive effect only a negative one.

Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but you are not entitled to force it on everyone else.

 

[pimo1]

At no point in this rambling, incoherent response was this even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.

If you think what you quoted was rambling or incoherent either you didn't read it or have very low reading comprehension. Seriously if you have no valid argument it's best to say nothing instead of just making things up.

 

[amarcus07]

So, basically, if I don't give blind support to the current coaches/staff, I'm not a true Vol fan and it means I want the terrorists to win?


Mmmkay.

 

[preacherwebb]

... They are like petulant children who want their demands filled NOW NOW NOW. You cant make a positive thread on these forums without them coming into it and spewing their ... Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but you are not entitled to force it on everyone else.

petulant - Saucy; pert or forward with fretfulness or sourness of temper; as a petulant youth
petulance - Freakish passion; peevishness; pettishness; sauciness. Peevishness is not precisely synonymous with petulance; the former implying more permanence of a sour, fretful temper; the latter more temporary or capricious irritation.
(all Webster 1828 dictionary)

Guys, I'm a hillbilly living in the sandhills of SC, so that makes me a SandHillBilly. You gotta keep it simple for me.

Seriously, I really do admire your vocabulary. :yes: eace2:

 

[Domestic Silence]

I didn't say any of this. And that ending leads me to believe you are a sex deprived fan who this thread fits perfectly. Or you're just some jerk who wouldn't say a f'n word to my face. I donate as well and have season tickets. So that gives me the right to do what exactly?

You said all of it. We should sit on our hands, while we donate, and continue to watch our beloved school and program fall deeper in to mediocrity. I love when the players quit on the coach, man he has things rolling up there! You tell me, what's Derek Dooley's football philosophy? Offensive or defensive? What kind of team are we? Or does he need 10 years to figure it out?

...sex deprived? Haha, are you sure your son didn't start posting for you?

"I'm just a jerk who wouldn't say a f'n word to your face". Wow, your posts get better by the sentence. Looks like you're well on your way for greatness on this board. Not surprised you chose your first thread as "I'm going to complain about people complaining." That's fresh, it really is.

Depends on how much you donate, but I guess you already knew that big timer.

 

[VFL1274]

So, basically, if I don't give blind support to the current coaches/staff, I'm not a true Vol fan and it means I want the terrorists to win?


Mmmkay.

My favorite post of the day!

 

[VFL1274]

You said all of it. We should sit on our hands, while we donate, and continue to watch our beloved school and program fall deeper in to mediocrity. I love when the players quit on the coach, man he has things rolling up there! You tell me, what's Derek Dooley's football philosophy? Offensive or defensive? What kind of team are we? Or does he need 10 years to figure it out?

...sex deprived? Haha, are you sure your son didn't start posting for you?

"I'm just a jerk who wouldn't say a f'n word to your face". Wow, your posts get better by the sentence. Looks like you're well on your way for greatness on this board. Not surprised you chose your first thread as "I'm going to complain about people complaining." That's fresh, it really is.

Depends on how much you donate, but I guess you already knew that big timer.

You should write fiction with your imagination. You would think my post really hurt your feelings.
I never mentioned how much I donate, you did. Tens of thousands I believe. And thank you thats more than I can afford.
You have an attitude problem. You have taken things from my post I never said and can't quote them because they dont exist yet you still try to embarrass me and bully me with your big post count. I'm so jealous of your big post count. I guess I'll blow it too?

 

[Vols4us]

Great debate folks and thanks to the OP for the thread.

This team did not play as a team. Some of the coaches did not prepare and coach the players to play as a team. The seniors told everyone how it was. They are the players that lead most teams. They told everybody that some were more interested in personal stats. Some of those types told people they had not desire to lay it on the line. The play on the field reflected it all through the months of October and November in the second half of every game.

Because we are fans and pay money to the UTAD and to buy stuff they sell in stores, we are the customers of the entertainment they provide. They can choose to listen to their customers or not. If the script, production and actors in a movie are bad, people find out and don't go. The movie makes no money and the actors win no awards. The actors, the producers, the investors all lose out. The investors move on to another team that can produce a winner. Every movie is not a winner, but if the performance is good the customer will probably continue to be a "fan" of the actors and possibly the producers. Same thing.

If you think the UTAD will continue to rah, rah for the old college try no matter how inept the effort is - you better think again. That does not happen in $100 million in revenues businesses that offer entertainment. It is cut throat and political. As long as the winning occurs everybody is all happy. When it stops - watch out. So, in effect, all fans have a say.

I can remain a fan of UT and not support the football program. The football program is a small part of what UT is about. It has a high profile and affects the financial condition of the university, but the university would continue to exist and perform its mission if all they offered was flag football.

 

[Domestic Silence]

You should write fiction with your imagination. You would think my post really hurt your feelings.
I never mentioned how much I donate, you did. Tens of thousands I believe. And thank you thats more than I can afford.
You have an attitude problem. You have taken things from my post I never said and can't quote them because they dont exist yet you still try to embarrass me and bully me with your big post count. I'm so jealous of
your big post count. I guess I'll blow it too?

Your post didn't hurt anyone's feelings, it was just some of the most ignorant bullcrap that everyone new to this board seems to write.

It's not worth any time arguing with you, but I'll just leave it at this. I've donated plenty of time and money to this University, and when I see things becoming a disaster, a la this season, I'll voice my displeasure. If you think it's wrong, I honestly couldn't care less.

No offense, but Tennesse football is just another paycheck to Derek Dooley, if he loses his job for being terrible he'll just move on for us to pick up the pieces, same as Lane Kiffin. It's been hard to watch this past decade, and I'm just ready for someone to make a damned good decision up there and get things moving, and I think Hart can do that.

 

[justingroves]

And therein lies the problem. The most vocal people tend to be one extreme or the other. Worse they accuse anyone not agreeing with their POV as being on the other side. Both sides actually have some valid points but find it important to totally dismiss anything "the other side" says out of hand.

To be totally honest though, of the 2 sides, have patience beats out fire, fire fire every time since that mentality is what put us in this hot mess.

I honestly think CPF was near the end but I think the timing of his firing was terrible because we should have made sure we had someone interested before we pulled the trigger. A much as the haters hated his rotund and jovial figure we would have turned around the next season and been cranking out 9-10 win seasons again.

Flat out we need to let the man ride out his contract no matter what. If he turns it around great we found a coach but even if he turns out not able to pull it off on the field he is building a foundation that will be very attractive for the next guy coming in. Going nuts firing folks only makes this a more radioactive destination for recruits and coaches.

A patient fanbase sat and watched an over the hill coach drive a program into a ditch.

Then, when a competent replacement was hired, he was paid pocket change and left for a substantial pay raise after one year.

I fail to see how "fire, fire, fire" got Tennessee in this mess.

 

[kell7517]

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This is the behavior most displayed on VN.

It is a problem with modern american culture. It will not get fixed by this thread I guarantee you that.

People, fans, feel like they deserve more but yet they give less. They don't research they regurgitate information. They fail to discover the truth, they spread lies and rumors. The irony...

VN and many of its members are like this country. Uneducated and only repeating what someone else has said forming the ignorant lynch mob on a witch hunt.

Hysteria has set in and realism has been discarded. People remove true factors to make points. The sad and depressed are loud and gaining momentum by spreading false propaganda.

Take a real look at this team and truly evaluate what this program has been through. I'm disgusted with the reactions of the VN posters who continue to bring this attitude of negativity around.

I could ignore them but f it I'm a man and I'll fight them. I'll stand true as a fan and support this team and it's coaching staff.

Not a single negative poster has done a damn thing to deserve a better team. You are not entitled this because you feel you deserve it. Great teams earn it, they do things right. From the staff to the players to the fans all is done to build not destroy.

Destruction got us here and it is not the solution. You may want it now but what have you done to deserve it?

If those who talk **** are going to be loud then I'll be louder. I support this team top to bottom. UT football is a game but it creates a bond between my son and myself. We enjoy it as fans. And I for one am fed up with all of this I deserve this, lets change not work, lets find the easy way out crap.

It's not easy to recover from what this program has been through. Stop allowing the negatives to win and dominate. They are ignorant and know not what they do.[/QUOTE]

I'm not saying you have to support the coach to be a fan. And yes I dropped the damn bomb, sorry I'm not as religious as many here in tennessee. But I dont judge.

It's the constant negativity. You can say I think out coach needs to go then express your opinion. Thats great and can lead to good discussion. It's the people who add the feeling self entitlement or remove facts and factors to make their uneducated points.

I hope that clears up a few things. And yes I'm mad bro!

 

[kiddiedoc]

I'm sorry, but I am having a great deal of trouble equating my displeasure with the current state of my Alma Mater's football program to "self-entitlement." If I'm in the wrong, I'll blame our first back-to-back losing seasons and the first loss to KY since I moved to Tennessee in 1985.

 

[AJeray4TN]

You guys still hashing this out? A good titans win, three bourbons, and a brisket platter later, and suddenly this thread doesn't bother me anymore.

 

[utmba93]

I'm sorry, but I am having a great deal of trouble equating my displeasure with the current state of my Alma Mater's football program to "self-entitlement." If I'm in the wrong, I'll blame our first back-to-back losing seasons and the first loss to KY since I moved to Tennessee in 1985.

Just guessing, but had you only done a psych rotation, the thread would make more sense.

My take away... Domestic Silence needs to post more often. :hi:

 

[Weezer]

I do. I also believe that a college football player playing in the last regular season game with a bowl bid on the line shouldn't have to be motivated or need to be approached by team leaders because the effort or will to win isn't there "that week" because "they don't want to practice for a bowl" during the holidays. That's ridiculous.

So you're against the "destruction" of the team but all for the "destruction" of a particular player based on rumor and speculation. In case you missed it, that one player did more on offense to help us win this year than any other offensive player. And if we're going to throw out digs about effort and leadership, where the hell was Poole's effort most of the year? I don't know what you saw, but I saw a SR RB who would run out of bounds instead of taking a hit. He rarely hit the right hole, and when he did, it wasn't with explosion. I'm tired of people wanting to act butthurt about DR, yet ignore the SR RB who played all but one or two games without heart.

 

[utmba93]

You guys still hashing this out? A good titans win, three bourbons, and a brisket platter later, and suddenly this thread doesn't bother me anymore.

You might keep that sequence in mind for next fall.

 

[AJeray4TN]

You might keep that sequence in mind for next fall.

100% committed to memory.

 

[utmba93]

For those still struggling with the thread, I thought this video might help.

Self Entitlement Syndrome - YouTube

 

[WA_Vol]

This is the behavior most displayed on VN.

It is a problem with modern american culture. It will not get fixed by this thread I guarantee you that.

People, fans, feel like they deserve more but yet they give less. They don't research they regurgitate information. They fail to discover the truth, they spread lies and rumors. The irony...

VN and many of its members are like this country. Uneducated and only repeating what someone else has said forming the ignorant lynch mob on a witch hunt.

Hysteria has set in and realism has been discarded. People remove true factors to make points. The sad and depressed are loud and gaining momentum by spreading false propaganda.

Take a real look at this team and truly evaluate what this program has been through. I'm disgusted with the reactions of the VN posters who continue to bring this attitude of negativity around.

I could ignore them but f it I'm a man and I'll fight them. I'll stand true as a fan and support this team and it's coaching staff.

Not a single negative poster has done a damn thing to deserve a better team. You are not entitled this because you feel you deserve it. Great teams earn it, they do things right. From the staff to the players to the fans all is done to build not destroy.

Destruction got us here and it is not the solution. You may want it now but what have you done to deserve it?

If those who talk **** are going to be loud then I'll be louder. I support this team top to bottom. UT football is a game but it creates a bond between my son and myself. We enjoy it as fans. And I for one am fed up with all of this I deserve this, lets change not work, lets find the easy way out crap.

It's not easy to recover from what this program has been through. Stop allowing the negatives to win and dominate. They are ignorant and know not what they do.

So basicly you want a fanbase that isn't going to be upset about going 5-7? We are quickly becoming Vandy.

 

[VFL1274]

So basicly you want a fanbase that isn't going to be upset about going 5-7? We are quickly becoming Vandy.

Not at all. I think you missed the point. Be mad as hell, be a fan, have your own opinion just be honest about the situation.

 

[chuck0303]

This is the behavior most displayed on VN.

It is a problem with modern american culture. It will not get fixed by this thread I guarantee you that.

People, fans, feel like they deserve more but yet they give less. They don't research they regurgitate information. They fail to discover the truth, they spread lies and rumors. The irony...

VN and many of its members are like this country. Uneducated and only repeating what someone else has said forming the ignorant lynch mob on a witch hunt.

Hysteria has set in and realism has been discarded. People remove true factors to make points. The sad and depressed are loud and gaining momentum by spreading false propaganda.

Take a real look at this team and truly evaluate what this program has been through. I'm disgusted with the reactions of the VN posters who continue to bring this attitude of negativity around.

I could ignore them but f it I'm a man and I'll fight them. I'll stand true as a fan and support this team and it's coaching staff.

Not a single negative poster has done a damn thing to deserve a better team. You are not entitled this because you feel you deserve it. Great teams earn it, they do things right. From the staff to the players to the fans all is done to build not destroy.

Destruction got us here and it is not the solution. You may want it now but what have you done to deserve it?

If those who talk **** are going to be loud then I'll be louder. I support this team top to bottom. UT football is a game but it creates a bond between my son and myself. We enjoy it as fans. And I for one am fed up with all of this I deserve this, lets change not work, lets find the easy way out crap.

It's not easy to recover from what this program has been through. Stop allowing the negatives to win and dominate. They are ignorant and know not what they do.

Best post I've seen in a long time. Excellent! You voice the sentiments of a lot of us. Most of the negavols are from what I call the "instant gratification" generation. Ignore the facts and just rant & complain, unfortunately it takes awhile before the roots of maturity set in.

 

[Pulley]

+Infinity!

Saying things like "We ARE TENNESSEE' sounds really good, but even TENNESSEE must eventually suffer the down cycles of a major college football program and work hard to rebuild not only TALENT, but CHARACTER and THE WILL TO WIN! The latter two are intangibles that don't show up on a prospect's 'star' recruiting score.

I can put things in BIG WORDS too. That doesn't make them IMPORTANT.

 

[billbattle]

I can put things in BIG WORDS too. That doesn't make them IMPORTANT.

What big words?