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That play wasn't Ramar's fault - he didn't have time to pump fake.
Chism was supposed to slow down on his way downcourt in the hopes that Oden would stick with him. Things went into a little disarray when the OSU player missed the FT, and Chism ran all the way to the basket and in the process drug Oden into Ramar's vicinity. Or, at least, that was Pearl's explanation on the DVD.

Of course CBP won't say its all Ramar's fault. Coaches don't do that to players. Oden did the right thing by sticking with the guy with the rock. That's what you're supposed to do. It takes .3 seconds to get a shot off. Ramar could have pump faked and then shot a 6 foot jumper.

We shouldn't have given up the 20 point lead we had going into the second half anyways.
 
#127
#127
That's your measure for tradition?

50% of it. The other 50% comes from winning games against ranked teams.

You go to UGA/GT football game, and then get back to me. GT is still more a football school than basketball

Is GT's athletic tradition is as great as UGA's? If you answer no, then GT's athletic tradition is not as great as UT's
 
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mtt2d said:
Is GT's athletic tradition is as great as UGA's? If you answer no, then GT's athletic tradition is not as great as UT's
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That's great, too bad that has pretty much nothing to do with my point. Your statement was:

"Aside from UF, how many of these college programs have anything remotely close to the tradition UT has in football? You can't win championships in both football and basketball with the exception to Florida. Most UK, Louisville, UConn, Kansas, MSU, Memphis, Cincy, Duke, UNC, and GTech fans I know dont ever mention their football program. At least UT fans aren't scared to talk about our basketball program."

The statement was made that GT fans don't talk about their football program, and that's just blantantly false. GT is much more of a football school than a basketball school. I never said a word about them having more tradition than anyone else.
 
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mtt2d said:
That play wasn't Ramar's fault - he didn't have time to pump fake.
Chism was supposed to slow down on his way downcourt in the hopes that Oden would stick with him. Things went into a little disarray when the OSU player missed the FT, and Chism ran all the way to the basket and in the process drug Oden into Ramar's vicinity. Or, at least, that was Pearl's explanation on the DVD.

Of course CBP won't say its all Ramar's fault. Coaches don't do that to players. Oden did the right thing by sticking with the guy with the rock. That's what you're supposed to do. It takes .3 seconds to get a shot off. Ramar could have pump faked and then shot a 6 foot jumper.

We shouldn't have given up the 20 point lead we had going into the second half anyways.
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Coaches don't do that to players??

Bruce basically blamed Chism instead of Ramar. He didn't completely throw him under a bus - he pointed out that Chism was trying to get in position for a putback. But, he did talk over a replay to explain what the plan was and why it didn't work.
 
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#130
Anyonw who claims Tennessee's basketball history is remotely in the same league as Ohio State and Oklahoma's has proven themself mentally unfit to participate in this forum.
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#131
Matt Harpring, John Salley and Stephon Marbury. If that doesn't scream tradition I don't know what does....:whistling:


I would definately claim football school. GT did have 3 straight undefeated seasons from 1915 to 1917, and beat Cumberland College 220-0. Always got that going for ya. :eek:k:
 
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Hardwood_fanatic said:
Matt Harpring, John Salley and Stephon Marbury. If that doesn't scream tradition I don't know what does....:whistling:


I would definately claim football school. GT did have 3 straight undefeated seasons from 1915 to 1917, and beat Cumberland College 220-0. Always got that going for ya. :eek:k:
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222-0. You need to brush up on your history. :p

GT_Cumberland_222_scoreboard.jpg
 
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Anyonw who claims Tennessee's basketball history is remotely in the same league as Ohio State and Oklahoma's has proven themself mentally unfit to participate in this forum.


Your right. Ohio State is the only school in the entire nation that you can make that argument for. I, on the other hand, could make a very good argument stating that UT's football tradition is greater than Ohio State's

Oklahoma has a better bball tradition but UT's football history is better.

My argument is, it is rare that a school can be successfull in both basketball and football, a fact you seem to disagree with. UT, located in the city of knoxville, will never acheive this status. UT chose to ba a football program a long time ago. We can't change the past
 
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hatvol96 said:
Anyonw who claims Tennessee's basketball history is remotely in the same league as Ohio State and Oklahoma's has proven themself mentally unfit to participate in this forum.
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Anyone who thinks UT will ever get past the Sweet 16 or fire Bruce Pearl needs to change their diapers.
 
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mtt2d said:
Anyonw who claims Tennessee's basketball history is remotely in the same league as Ohio State and Oklahoma's has proven themself mentally unfit to participate in this forum.


Your right. Ohio State is the only school in the entire nation that you can make that argument for. I, on the other hand, could make a very good argument stating that UT's football tradition is greater than Ohio State's

Oklahoma has a better bball tradition but UT's football history is better.

My argument is, it is rare that a school can be successfull in both basketball and football, a fact you seem to disagree with. UT, located in the city of knoxville, will never acheive this status. UT chose to ba a football program a long time ago. We can't change the past
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If you think Tennessee's football history is better than Oklahoma's, you're even more challenged intellectually than I thought.
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hatvol96 said:
If you think Tennessee's football history is better than Oklahoma's, you're even more challenged intellectually than I thought.
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Never try to compare a Big Ten or Big 12 school to a top tier SEC program when it comes to football. You watch too much ESPN.
 
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mtt2d said:
Never try to compare a Big Ten or Big 12 school to a top tier SEC program when it comes to football. You watch too much ESPN.
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You are now officially the most clueless poster here. Time to add to the ignore list. Life is too short.
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hatvol96 said:
You are now officially the most clueless poster here. Time to add to the ignore list. Life is too short.
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You're the one that said MH should fire Bruce Pearl for not getting UT to the Elite 8. You obviously have not clue what you are talking about. Life must be too short for you. Is that why you began this thread about a recruit we have no shot at getting?
 
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mtt2d said:
You're the one that said MH should fire Bruce Pearl for not getting UT to the Elite 8. You obviously have not clue what you are talking about. Life must be too short for you. Is that why you began this thread about a recruit we have no shot at getting?
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And you're the one who said you didn't know any GT fans that talked about their football program.
 
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Hardwood_fanatic said:
Matt Harpring, John Salley and Stephon Marbury. If that doesn't scream tradition I don't know what does....:whistling:


I would definately claim football school. GT did have 3 straight undefeated seasons from 1915 to 1917, and beat Cumberland College 220-0. Always got that going for ya. :eek:k:
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Come on. Gt is better than that on both front. Cremins had it rolling: Anderson, Scott, Dalrymple, Price etc. They also shared a national title in football with BYU not terribly long ago.
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BigPapaVol said:
Come on. Gt is better than that on both front. Cremins had it rolling: Anderson, Scott, Dalrymple, Price etc. They also shared a national title in football with BYU not terribly long ago.
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Ok fine. They also ended Rupps 129 game winning streak in 1955, I think it was. Looks like the football title was in 1990.
 
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#147
My God, this thread went to hell.

Oklahoma has an inferior football tradition, Georgia Tech doesn't care about football, and Tennessee could never be both a basketball and football school...

It's a self-written insult. Three separate fan bases from three separate conferences are laughing at this crap.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Come on. Gt is better than that on both front. Cremins had it rolling: Anderson, Scott, Dalrymple, Price etc. They also shared a national title in football with BYU not terribly long ago.
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Actually it was Colorado, in 1990.
 
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IPorange said:
My God, this thread went to hell.

Oklahoma has an inferior football tradition, Georgia Tech doesn't care about football, and Tennessee could never be both a basketball and football school...

It's a self-written insult. Three separate fan bases from three separate conferences are laughing at this crap.
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And they'd all be laughing at one guy.
 
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hatvol96 said:
If you think Tennessee's football history is better than Oklahoma's, you're even more challenged intellectually than I thought.
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mtt2d said:
Never try to compare a Big Ten or Big 12 school to a top tier SEC program when it comes to football. You watch too much ESPN.
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I believe the question is which team has a more storied history, not which team is "better" or plays in a "better" conference. The SEC has not always been the dominant machine that it is now. I like UT much more than Oklahoma. Love UT football actually.... But OU has the history. Some numbers:

UT stat guru's, if any of these are wrong please correct. Internet stats are not always correct.

National Titles
Oklahoma- 7 (4 since 1970)
Tennessee- 4 (2 since 1950)

All time wins ( as of DEC 5 2008)
Oklahoma- 791
Tennessee- 775

Conference Titles
Oklahoma- 34*
Tennessee- 13 SEC titles 6 SEC east titles

* the 34 titles represents BIG12 titles AND division titles all in one.




If you don't want to concede that OU has a bigger history, then at least call them equal.



Edit: its also ridiculous to be discussing this in a basketball thread that got hi-jacked.
 
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