Seems the Jaguars are following the Vol's example

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TNnative said:
Jaguars reportedly don't want to pay the rest of Urban Meyer's contract after firing him for cause

After firing Jeremy Pruitt, Tennessee decided to set a precedence by firing him for cause and refusing to pay his buyout. Now, it seems the Jacksonville Jaguars have decided in the case of Urban Meyer to follow that precedence.
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Brother, you have just been hit by the Baader–Meinhof phenomenon.

Look it up. It is interesting. And is 100% what just happened to you.

[hint: Tennessee wasn't setting any new precedent, and the Jaguars' decision likely had absolutely nothing to do with a "Tennessee example"]
 
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butchna said:
Tennessee invented firing for cause? 🤔
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Of course not, butchna, you know better. But in the coaching profession? In most cases, even the most incompetent coaches still have gotten their contracted buyout. But not at UT, and now an NFL team seems to be following the same precedence.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Brother, you have just been hit by the Baader–Meinhof phenomenon.

Look it up. It is interesting. And is 100% what just happened to you.

[hint: Tennessee wasn't setting any new precedent, and the Jaguars' decision likely had absolutely nothing to do with a "Tennessee example"]
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Ha ha. No, I have not been hit by anything. I just find it no coincidence that within a short period of time, that a college coach, and now an NFL coach lost their buyouts after being fired by cause. Now, if you can cite other coaches that have not been paid their buyouts due to their actions? Then you can repeat your assertion with more conviction along with your evidence.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Well its a little different we got out of paying Pruitt because he got caught cheating.
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Well Urban Mayer pretty much embarrassed his employer in a very short timeframe. Hell, he has gone from one of the most respected names in coaching to a total pariah in the blink of an eye. Getting so that the CDC needs to do blood tests and see if there is a virus that causes terminal stupidity.
 
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TNnative said:
Ha ha. No, I have not been hit by anything. I just find it no coincidence that within a short period of time, that a college coach, and now an NFL coach lost their buyouts after being fired by cause. Now, if you can cite other coaches that have not been paid their buyouts due to their actions? Then you can repeat your assertion with more conviction along with your evidence.
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The Bureau of Labor Statistics of the US Dept of Labor surveyed the work force in 2016 and found that about 54,000 employees were fired or laid off that year in the United States, which we can take as fairly typical.

Perhaps 10%-15% of those firings invoked a "for cause" clause of the employee's contract. Say a range of 5,000 to 8,000.

That's 5,000 to 8,000 examples, each and every year, of a firing for cause. And you think it was specifically Jeremy Pruitt's firing that inspired the lawyers and HR department of the Jacksonville Jaguars to decide to use the clause in Urban Meyer's contract?

Brother, you have experienced Baader-Meinhoff. "For cause" got placed in your active awareness by the Pruitt firing, and now you've seen a second example, and you come to the mistaken conclusion that the two are somehow linked.

They almost certainly are not. :)
 
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TNnative said:
Of course not, butchna, you know better. But in the coaching profession? In most cases, even the most incompetent coaches still have gotten their contracted buyout. But not at UT, and now an NFL team seems to be following the same precedence.
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Pretty sure we weren’t the first. Guess I have a research project? McElwain didn’t receive his CONTRACTED buyout for a way more sketchy premise. Arkansas fought paying out Bieliema. I know there’s others past and present.

Edit: Oh yeah! Mike Leach by Texas Tech! Over 10 years ago. He’s still trying to get his money…very vocal!
 
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So what ever happened to Pruitt and his attorney regarding exposing TN's widespread cheating. I thought his attorney was basically going to burn TN to the ground if his client didn't get paid. Could it be that his attorney is as full of sh!t as Pruitt is?
 
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The complete failure and multitude of gaffes that will stain his career forever couldn’t happen to a better person than Meyer. He was mocked mercilessly from day one by everyone in the Jags organization, and I loved every minute of it.
 
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UT clearly was not the first to fire a coach for cause. This wasn't even the first time UT did it. They fired Donnie Tyndall for cause after one season and refused to pay his $3 million dollar buyout. There is a huge difference between Pruitt and Meyer. With Pruitt, UT has to admit guilt to avoid the buyout. With Meyer, all Jacksonville has to do is say the guy was a clown who was an embarrassment to the organization.
 
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BlinghamptonVol said:
Also being reported, the Jaguars just started the ‘Ville For Life program to be bestowed on Jacksonville players who ‘give their all for Tennessee Jacksonville.’
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Don't forget the pilot "Rock by Rock" program founded in north Duval. Because MEFF.
 
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I am not an attorney. Maybe someone can answer this. I'm guessing that the general public doesn't know the nuts and bolts of his contract. If you break a contractual agreement, does that make you subject to a firing with cause? Perhaps there were details of his contract, he either didn't fulfill or simple broke an agreement? Who knows....
 
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