SEC's Top Active Coaches/ Where Does Phil Fit In

#27
#27
Unrelated, but NCGatorbait, how are the Panthers gatorbait? Or is your avatar that confusing?
 
#28
#28
Let the position coaches set the players straight. Fulmer claps because these are 18-23 year olds, and they get down on themselves. Just because the other team succeeds on the field doesn't mean a coach should immediatly go yelling at whatever player(s) deemed "responsible" at that point or play. If a player does something like a personal foul I have seen Fulmer question a player on the sidelines. The criticisim should come behind closed doors.
 
#29
#29
UTLCA said:
Unrelated, but NCGatorbait, how are the Panthers gatorbait? Or is your avatar that confusing?
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I am a Panthers and Heels fan as well...THe Gator is shooting laser beams at the UT T...it's an inside joke on one of the gator boards where a guy was wanting the gator head to shoot laser beams during the pre-game intro..we laughed him off the board so I used it in the avatar.
 
#30
#30
knxfbfan said:
Not What They Did in 90's; What They've done The Last 4-5 years and going forward

1) Meyer (unreal what he did in just his 2nd year)

2) Saban (LSU talent the last two years has been unreal and the credit goes to St. Nick)
3) Richt (great x's & o's)

4) Spurrier (on a slight decline of his career like Parcells but still has things rockin' in SC)

5) Ruberville (proved he can recruit and if he has good o.c. there good team ~ hence Petrino & Borges)

6) Fulmer (no longer in prime, outdated, still has the facilites and players to remain competitive; as Small Mike calls UT; we're the glorified Wisconsin of the SEC)

7) Les Miles (loaded w/ talent left from St. Nicky. Without Jimbo and losing some of that top talent, this year will tell if he can handle this league)

8) H. Nutt (great motivator, team always tends to be inconsistent from year to year, I know his fans HATE HIM. Not a bad coach, outside of a couple years, always seems to have Phillip's #)

9) Tie Bobby Johnson & Rich Brooks; both deserve some credit from what they've accomplished at their poor in tradition schools)

11) Ed Orgeron (great recruiter, jury still out on his coaching ability. If you can land back-to-back top 15classes at that school you're doing something right. Coach "Rut" left that program in bad shape as far as talent. He appears to be getting it back but is moving @ turtle speed)

12) Coach Croom (I know there on punishment but they don't seem to be coached real well. Although he did beat the "Football Buzz" this year. Jury is still out. Don't seem to be recruiting good. Hopefully Phil will not slip up down there next year)
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i would put him 6th or 7th. that is about right.
 
#31
#31
1. Spurrier
2. Richt
3. Saban
4. Meyer
5. Fulmer
6. Tuberville
7. Miles
8. Nutt
9. Brooks
10. Orgeron
11. Johnson
12. Croom

I think Croom and O will move up. Tuberville's resume isn't that great, to be honest.
 
#33
#33
NCGatorBait said:
Just wondering how some can have Richt ahead of Meyer?? He hasn't even sniffed out a NC game yet?
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Meyer has 1 SEC Title and a NT with Ron Zook's players.

Richt has 2 SEC Titles with his players.

I have no doubt, really, that Meyer should pass him.
 
#34
#34
VolinArizona said:
Meyer has 1 SEC Title and a NT with Ron Zook's players.

Richt has 2 SEC Titles with his players.

I have no doubt, really, that Meyer should pass him.
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So wouldn't winning a NC with someone else's players be a better coaching job than with your own that fit your system?? Also..a NC alone trumps his two SEC titles..sorry.
 
#40
#40
Richt has 2 SEC Titles with his players.
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Richt won his first title in his second year, same as Meyer...that was also his best team at uga so far. So I dont think you can give Richt credit and not Meyer.
 
#41
#41
The guy has never been anywhere longer than 2 years before until now. Any decent coach should win at the Florida schools because of all the talent at their feet. I'm not willing to concede that Meyer is the best think since sex - not yet anyway.
 
#42
#42
CoastieVol said:
I have watched CPF for years. I was at the bus stop with Phil Jr. when he lived in Concepts 21 in Bearden. He was the Offensive Lineman Coach at the time. I think that he has great potential, however he doesn't close the deal. ie; No matter what the kids do he claps his hands like it's ok. I am a Chief in the military and I hole heartedly believe in climbing in a kids @ss if they mess up or don't show respect. I believe that we lost something somewhere. I think he is a great guy but he needs to drop his nuts and be a coach. The friendship ends at the gate. Just my 2 cents.
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drop the nutsack Phil! :rock2:
 
#43
#43
SMVTT said:
The guy has never been anywhere longer than 2 years before until now. Any decent coach should win at the Florida schools because of all the talent at their feet. I'm not willing to concede that Meyer is the best think since sex - not yet anyway.
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He's hasn't been any school longer becausing he has been ascending the ladder of better programs. Where in college football is a better place than Florida? (I don't think his offense is suited to the pros). Unfortunately for us he will be at UF for years.:cray:
 
#44
#44
rockydoc said:
He's hasn't been any school longer becausing he has been ascending the ladder of better programs. Where in college football is a better place than Florida? (I don't think his offense is suited to the pros). Unfortunately for us he will be at UF for years.:cray:
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That's what I am afraid of (Meyer not going anywhere)until we get a new coach; won't be afraid then unless our new HC is "Rut" or "Chief".

Although Meyer really hasn't outcoached Phil yet in the two mtgs between 'em but his team did find way to win both. He recruits so well it scary.
 
#45
#45
First&Tenn said:
Yes. Put your faith in Randy Sanders. :p

Also, your single 4* recruit will obviously dominate the SEC next year. I'm sure that ranking 11th out of 12 in the conference is a banner year in recruiting up in Lexington. Plus, you have one more 3* guy than we have 5* guys....so....bonus!

:whistling:
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In Randy I trust. He's developed André Woodson into an SEC-leading QB, so, yeah, I'll go with Phil's fall guy.

If you believe every recruiting website's star rating, then you are highly deluded. Trevard Lindley, who was a TRUE freshman this year, was first team Freshman SEC, and a First team Freshman All-American for the Cats. Let's see...what was his star rating coming out of high school? Rivals listed him with zero stars. That's right, zero. Shows you how much the "experts" know.

I put my stock more in a staff that can develop good talent into great talent. Anyone can have talent handed to them on a silver platter because of tradition, but it takes a real coaching staff to develop a 'have-not' into a 'have'. Will it happen with Rich Brooks? I don't know, but I see the guy doing it the right way.
 
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