Secret 🤫 Scrimmage

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DeerPark12 said:
NCAA rules. You’re allowed to hold scrimmages against other D1 teams, but they cannot be publicized or open to the public and results and stats cannot be released.
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Why is the men able to play one that is going to be streamed later this month? I know they are using the language exhibition, but really the same thing.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
NCAA rules. You’re allowed to hold scrimmages against other D1 teams, but they cannot be publicized or open to the public and results and stats cannot be released.
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Those restrictions don't exist anymore. The NCAA has relaxed the rules for preseason exhibitions.

www.ncaa.org

Preseason exhibition rules eased for DI men’s basketball teams - NCAA.org

The Division I Men's Basketball Oversight Committee on Tuesday approved a proposal allowing teams to play up to two preseason exhibition games against any four-year
www.ncaa.org www.ncaa.org

In previous years, these exhibitions were approved through a waiver process, and the proceeds from the games were donated to a charity. This proposal eliminates that requirement, and schools can decide how to allocate the revenue generated from these games.

Additionally, the new rule eliminates the requirement that preseason practice scrimmages be conducted in private and without official scoring.
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You can still do closed or secret scrimmages if you want -- Oklahoma MBB just beat Texas Tech MBB 89-87 a few days ago -- but many Division I teams are playing regular exhibition games against Division I teams in the preseason.

Basically, a Division I team can do two -- mix or match -- of either of the following:

1. Open scrimmage against another Division I team (or Division II or III or NAIA)

-- one team is the host, or stage it at a neutral site
-- sell tickets however you want (prioritize season ticket holders, hold a public sale)
-- televise or stream it
-- keep the revenue or give it to charity

2. Closed/secret scrimmage against another team (probably Division I)

-- don't sell tickets, by definition
-- don't televise or stream it, by definition
-- don't disclose any details, though you may as well because the NCAA doesn't care now
-- the real advantage here is to amplify the practices by having an unfamiliar opponent and not stick to a specific game format

Examples.

Tennessee men: one closed scrimmage (against Ohio State on October 18) and one open scrimmage (against Duke on October 26)

Kansas men: two open scrimmages (play at Louisville on October 24, host Division II Fort Hays State on October 28)

Marquette men: two closed scrimmages (hosted Missouri on October 9, will play at Colorado on October 16)


On Friday, the Baylor and Grand Canyon men played the first exhibition game of the season, and they did a kind of hybrid by playing the game and then following it with a 10-minute bonus combined practice session with the fans in attendance still watching. So it is possible to do some of that closed scrimmage stuff, only it's not closed.

 
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fernbank said:
Those restrictions don't exist anymore. The NCAA has relaxed the rules for preseason exhibitions.

www.ncaa.org

Preseason exhibition rules eased for DI men’s basketball teams - NCAA.org

The Division I Men's Basketball Oversight Committee on Tuesday approved a proposal allowing teams to play up to two preseason exhibition games against any four-year
www.ncaa.org www.ncaa.org



You can still do closed or secret scrimmages if you want -- Oklahoma MBB just beat Texas Tech MBB 89-87 a few days ago -- but many Division I teams are playing regular exhibition games against Division I teams in the preseason.

Basically, a Division I team can do two -- mix or match -- of either of the following:

1. Open scrimmage against another Division I team (or Division II or III or NAIA)

-- one team is the host, or stage it at a neutral site
-- sell tickets however you want (prioritize season ticket holders, hold a public sale)
-- televise or stream it
-- keep the revenue or give it to charity

2. Closed/secret scrimmage against another team (probably Division I)

-- don't sell tickets, by definition
-- don't televise or stream it, by definition
-- don't disclose any details, though you may as well because the NCAA doesn't care now
-- the real advantage here is to amplify the practices by having an unfamiliar opponent and not stick to a specific game format

Examples.

Tennessee men: one closed scrimmage (against Ohio State on October 18) and one open scrimmage (against Duke on October 26)

Kansas men: two open scrimmages (play at Louisville on October 24, host Division II Fort Hays State on October 28)

Marquette men: two closed scrimmages (hosted Missouri on October 9, will play at Colorado on October 16)


On Friday, the Baylor and Grand Canyon men played the first exhibition game of the season, and they did a kind of hybrid by playing the game and then following it with a 10-minute bonus combined practice session with the fans in attendance still watching. So it is possible to do some of that closed scrimmage stuff, only it's not closed.

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Excellent! Yer gonna work out fine around here… 🤙🏼😉🧡🙏
 
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fernbank said:
Those restrictions don't exist anymore. The NCAA has relaxed the rules for preseason exhibitions.

www.ncaa.org

Preseason exhibition rules eased for DI men’s basketball teams - NCAA.org

The Division I Men's Basketball Oversight Committee on Tuesday approved a proposal allowing teams to play up to two preseason exhibition games against any four-year
www.ncaa.org www.ncaa.org



You can still do closed or secret scrimmages if you want -- Oklahoma MBB just beat Texas Tech MBB 89-87 a few days ago -- but many Division I teams are playing regular exhibition games against Division I teams in the preseason.

Basically, a Division I team can do two -- mix or match -- of either of the following:

1. Open scrimmage against another Division I team (or Division II or III or NAIA)

-- one team is the host, or stage it at a neutral site
-- sell tickets however you want (prioritize season ticket holders, hold a public sale)
-- televise or stream it
-- keep the revenue or give it to charity

2. Closed/secret scrimmage against another team (probably Division I)

-- don't sell tickets, by definition
-- don't televise or stream it, by definition
-- don't disclose any details, though you may as well because the NCAA doesn't care now
-- the real advantage here is to amplify the practices by having an unfamiliar opponent and not stick to a specific game format

Examples.

Tennessee men: one closed scrimmage (against Ohio State on October 18) and one open scrimmage (against Duke on October 26)

Kansas men: two open scrimmages (play at Louisville on October 24, host Division II Fort Hays State on October 28)

Marquette men: two closed scrimmages (hosted Missouri on October 9, will play at Colorado on October 16)


On Friday, the Baylor and Grand Canyon men played the first exhibition game of the season, and they did a kind of hybrid by playing the game and then following it with a 10-minute bonus combined practice session with the fans in attendance still watching. So it is possible to do some of that closed scrimmage stuff, only it's not closed.

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Fantastic! I sure wish this applied to the women's game. I imagine most of the proceeds will be used for NIL.
 
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chuckiepoo said:
Couldn’t find the rule but there were changes…
www.ncaa.org

Coach’s challenge approved for women’s basketball - NCAA.org

A coach's video review challenge in women's basketball was approved by the NCAA Playing Rules Oversight Panel on Tuesday.
www.ncaa.org www.ncaa.org
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I'm curious when this happened, 'cause it must have happened at some point to have led to a rule being made to prevent it happening in the future:

  • If a player competes in a game that the player should have missed due to a suspension, the player and the head coach will both have to serve a one-game suspension for the next scheduled game.
 
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lvocd said:
I'm curious when this happened, 'cause it must have happened at some point to have led to a rule being made to prevent it happening in the future:

  • If a player competes in a game that the player should have missed due to a suspension, the player and the head coach will both have to serve a one-game suspension for the next scheduled game.
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That one caught my eye also.
 
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My memory of last year's Secret Scrimmage is how much fun we had playing Sherlock Holmes on Google Maps, and "benignly stalking" from our laptops over a dozen teenage girls around the southeastern U.S.
Guilt-free!

Nothing catches the sports fan's imagination like their team holding a secret.

🤫 In fact, if I could tell you what I learned this morning from my aunt who attends the same church as one of our highly touted 2026 recruits...
 
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Volfan2012 said:
Why is the men able to play one that is going to be streamed later this month? I know they are using the language exhibition, but really the same thing.
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You are allowed to play two public exhibition games, though with the limited timeframe that they can be contested, most schools now only play one. Until the last couple of years, those have exclusively been against D2 teams. A rule change three years ago allowed you to have a "charity scrimmage" against another D1 team instead of a closed scrimmage. The rule was amended this year to allow all teams to play any school, D1 or D2 in an exhibition. The men are playing Duke for their exhibition game instead of a D2 opponent. They were scheduled to have a closed scrimmage against a BigTen team, but I believe it was cancelled due to an issue with the other school.
 
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fernbank said:
Those restrictions don't exist anymore. The NCAA has relaxed the rules for preseason exhibitions.

www.ncaa.org

Preseason exhibition rules eased for DI men’s basketball teams - NCAA.org

The Division I Men's Basketball Oversight Committee on Tuesday approved a proposal allowing teams to play up to two preseason exhibition games against any four-year
www.ncaa.org www.ncaa.org



You can still do closed or secret scrimmages if you want -- Oklahoma MBB just beat Texas Tech MBB 89-87 a few days ago -- but many Division I teams are playing regular exhibition games against Division I teams in the preseason.

Basically, a Division I team can do two -- mix or match -- of either of the following:

1. Open scrimmage against another Division I team (or Division II or III or NAIA)

-- one team is the host, or stage it at a neutral site
-- sell tickets however you want (prioritize season ticket holders, hold a public sale)
-- televise or stream it
-- keep the revenue or give it to charity

2. Closed/secret scrimmage against another team (probably Division I)

-- don't sell tickets, by definition
-- don't televise or stream it, by definition
-- don't disclose any details, though you may as well because the NCAA doesn't care now
-- the real advantage here is to amplify the practices by having an unfamiliar opponent and not stick to a specific game format

Examples.

Tennessee men: one closed scrimmage (against Ohio State on October 18) and one open scrimmage (against Duke on October 26)

Kansas men: two open scrimmages (play at Louisville on October 24, host Division II Fort Hays State on October 28)

Marquette men: two closed scrimmages (hosted Missouri on October 9, will play at Colorado on October 16)


On Friday, the Baylor and Grand Canyon men played the first exhibition game of the season, and they did a kind of hybrid by playing the game and then following it with a 10-minute bonus combined practice session with the fans in attendance still watching. So it is possible to do some of that closed scrimmage stuff, only it's not closed.

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Well, as you later stated, rules DO still exist. The Lady Vols are doing exactly what you laid out there, a public exhibition against a D2 school and a closed scrimmage against a D1.
 
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BruisedOrange said:
My memory of last year's Secret Scrimmage is how much fun we had playing Sherlock Holmes on Google Maps, and "benignly stalking" from our laptops over a dozen teenage girls around the southeastern U.S.
Guilt-free!

Nothing catches the sports fan's imagination like their team holding a secret.

🤫 In fact, if I could tell you what I learned this morning from my aunt who attends the same church as one of our highly touted 2026 recruits...
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No one invited me last year 😔
 
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DeerPark12 said:
Well, as you later stated, rules DO still exist. The Lady Vols are doing exactly what you laid out there, a public exhibition against a D2 school and a closed scrimmage against a D1.
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So is UConn violating the rules with tomorrow's exhibition against BC being streamed?
 
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MAD said:
No one invited me last year 😔
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I don't know why you didn't receive it. It was mailed to your avatar.

Oh. 😒

I mean the avatar before the one before the one before the one you had before this latest one
(not counting Happy the Cheery Steer, which was more of a cyber-purgatory sentence than an avatar).

Are you sure your witness protection officer is giving you his best, 🥸 Grade-A advice?
Just changing avatars every few months seems a little risky. I mean, with this level of witness protection... I wouldn't feel safe squealing on a 5-kid kindergarten cookie cartel.
 
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madtownvol said:
If you type into the Google search engine, "Lady Vol basketball secret scrimmage" this thread is the first result!!!

If a secret is revealed on Google and the there are many people to read about it, does it still make a sound?
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Just think... there are young coaches out there just starting their careers who are posing questions to AI and getting results from our Football Forum.

Twenty years from now, defenses will be blitzing on every down, offenses will be running double-reverses and throwing the bomb from it, and every training table will be serving biscuits & gravy and cornbread to freshman linemen.
 
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BruisedOrange said:
I don't know why you didn't receive it. It was mailed to your avatar.

Oh. 😒

I mean the avatar before the one before the one before the one you had before this latest one
(not counting Happy the Cheery Steer, which was more of a cyber-purgatory sentence than an avatar).

Are you sure your witness protection officer is giving you his best, 🥸 Grade-A advice?
Just changing avatars every few months seems a little risky. I mean, with this level of witness protection... I wouldn't feel safe squealing on a 5-kid kindergarten cookie cartel.
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…still raising havoc over at PF, eh? 🤣
 
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@madtownvol makes a good point.

🤫 So from now on, anything posted about the secret scrimmage needs to be posted in white font. Only LV insiders will know to use the Ctrl+A command [or highlight posts with the cursor] to reveal secret, hidden text. :cool:
 
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