SEC Stats

[a vol n tears]

With so much back an forth about JG and concern about the O Line I thought it was interesting looking at the passing stats of the entire SEC. It shows stats can deceiving. JG has taken 8 sacks this year. (KC none). There are 4 other teams that have given up more than 8 sacks. We have 1 RB averaging 6.2 ypc and another 5.7 ypc. Fitzgerald was expected to be very good but has been sacked 11times and has the same 4Td 2 int stats as JG. Auburn’s QB has been sacked 10 times and aTm’s 16 times. Do we have the worst O Line or do stats lie?

 

[Doberman]

With so much back an forth about JG and concern about the O Line I thought it was interesting looking at the passing stats of the entire SEC. It shows stats can deceiving. JG has taken 8 sacks this year. (KC none). There are 4 other teams that have given up more than 8 sacks. We have 1 RB averaging 6.2 ypc and another 5.7 ypc. Fitzgerald was expected to be very good but has been sacked 11times and has the same 4Td 2 int stats as JG. Auburn’s QB has been sacked 10 times and aTm’s 16 times. Do we have the worst O Line or do stats lie?

At first glance — passing attempts should factor in. The more drop backs, the more chance of getting sacked.

You left out Fitzgerald rushing yards and TDs. He’s a better runner than passer.

A&m passes a ton and they’ve played arguably the 2 best D lines/defenses in the country in their first 5 games. Bama and Clemson.

Those 2 RB ypc averages don’t look accurate. I didn’t check, but I have a hard time believing them. And if they are accurate, and we run 70% of the time, why do those backs not get all the carries, and how are we not undefeated.

 

[VolGirl1126]

That is very interesting information. Makes me feel like we will be better before many of us think.

 

[G8R8U2]

Sacks allowed is only 1 very small stat in grading line play; tackles for loss, QB hurries, QB hits, some INT's, some fumbles, etc. also play roles.

You also selectively chose the ypc average of 2 UT RB's (6.2 ypc and 5.7 ypc), but UT's actual ypc average is only 4.2 ypc... which places UT behind MSU (5.98), UGA (5.96), UK (5.89), TAMU (5.48), Bama (5.33), UF (5.30), OM (5.16), USC (5.13), VU (4.77), Mizzou (4.46), and LSU (4.44). Only AU (4.17) and UAr (3.81) are worse.

NCAA Statistics

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

Auburn’s QB has been sacked 10 times and aTm’s 16 times. Do we have the worst O Line or do stats lie?

Auburn is replacing 4 of 5 starters, aTm has played two of the best pass rushing teams, we would have given up at least that many sacks if we had played Clemson and Bammer already.

 

[JohnD13]

That is very interesting information. Makes me feel like we will be better before many of us think.

I don't think so... what's that line, statistics lie and liars use statistics?

 

[dan4vols]

Seems it’s just raw data, subject to the perspective or agenda of the observer

 

[Jack Burton]

Auburn’s DLine is nasty. Top tier talented. If our OLine is going to make progress it’d better happen within the next 12 days or JG is going to get murdered. Now is the time for our OC to dial up something to attempt to negate their pass rush.

 

[Lloyd_Christmas]

I think those stats are a little deceiving, but the o-line did seem to make strides against UGA in pass protection. They handled the blitz better than at any other time this season. I think the offense as a whole found some confidence and a better attitude in the second half. Hopefully they build on it and it carries over to the Auburn game.

 

[Cartervol]

Auburn’s DLine is nasty. Top tier talented. If our OLine is going to make progress it’d better happen within the next 12 days or JG is going to get murdered. Now is the time for our OC to dial up something to attempt to negate their pass rush.

QB keepers. Only problem is our QB isn't dual threat as advertised. Quick screens, throw to the TE. QB has to see the field though, recognize where the blitz is coming from, know where his best matchups are. You know all the stuff he can't do right now for whatever reason. That game is another loss and anyone thinking otherwise is setting themselves up for disappointment.

 

[Cartervol]

UGA had only 3 sacks coming into the game. They don't rush the passer very well. We'll see if they've improved or not when they face Auburn, they have a legit line.

 

[njvols]

With so much back an forth about JG and concern about the O Line I thought it was interesting looking at the passing stats of the entire SEC. It shows stats can deceiving. JG has taken 8 sacks this year. (KC none). There are 4 other teams that have given up more than 8 sacks. We have 1 RB averaging 6.2 ypc and another 5.7 ypc. Fitzgerald was expected to be very good but has been sacked 11times and has the same 4Td 2 int stats as JG. Auburn’s QB has been sacked 10 times and aTm’s 16 times. Do we have the worst O Line or do stats lie?

Where are we on rushing and passing yards per game and scoring per game. Those are primary stats. Sacks taken are important but secondary

 

[Crazy Ivan]

At first glance — passing attempts should factor in. The more drop backs, the more chance of getting sacked.

You left out Fitzgerald rushing yards and TDs. He’s a better runner than passer.

A&m passes a ton and they’ve played arguably the 2 best D lines/defenses in the country in their first 5 games. Bama and Clemson.

Those 2 RB ypc averages don’t look accurate. I didn’t check, but I have a hard time believing them. And if they are accurate, and we run 70% of the time, why do those backs not get all the carries, and how are we not undefeated.

ESPN stats site for UT confirms.

Chandler averaging 6.2 ypc and London 5.7. Of course, neither has a large number of carries - Chandler has 40 and London 36 - so Chandler's 81-yd run and London's 41-yd run sort of inflates the averages. London is really what he is supposed to be - a powerful between the tackles runner who gets you 3-4 yards, but we saw from that 41-yd run that he does have the skills to bounce it outside when necessary and get downfield. Jordan has to the most carries of all - 63 for 4.1 ypc average, and Banks has 41 for 3.9 ypc average.

The positive here is that the RBs have been hit so many times at the LOS or behind the LOS for negative yardage, and still, of the 4 of them, 3.9 is the worst ypc is the lowest average. This is a pretty good RB corp. Once the OL gets shored up, we are going to have a very good run game.

Tennessee Volunteers 2018 Statistics - Team and Player Stats - College Football - ESPN

 

[VolBricks]

Losing our starting center hurt worse than we realized. With 2 new guards and a "New" center the interior of our line was not on the same page. Now that they have played a few games together with decent if not good coaching they are getting better. If we stay healthy we can play with USCjr and Vandy.

 

[njvols]

ESPN stats site for UT confirms.

Chandler averaging 6.2 ypc and London 5.7. Of course, neither has a large number of carries - Chandler has 40 and London 36 - so Chandler's 81-yd run and London's 41-yd run sort of inflates the averages. London is really what he is supposed to be - a powerful between the tackles runner who gets you 3-4 yards, but we saw from that 41-yd run that he does have the skills to bounce it outside when necessary and get downfield. Jordan has to the most carries of all - 63 for 4.1 ypc average, and Banks has 41 for 3.9 ypc average.

The positive here is that the RBs have been hit so many times at the LOS or behind the LOS for negative yardage, and still, of the 4 of them, 3.9 is the worst ypc is the lowest average. This is a pretty good RB corp. Once the OL gets shored up, we are going to have a very good run game.

Tennessee Volunteers 2018 Statistics - Team and Player Stats - College Football - ESPN

We had 66 yards rushing against UGA. That doesn’t qualify and close to even a conversation about us being a good running attack.

 

[GAVol]

I think if you looked at hits/hurries per dropback, the numbers would fall more in line with reality. No idea what the numbers are, but it Doesn't feel like we're throwing it very much compared to everybody else.

 

[FLVOL_79]

We had 66 yards rushing against UGA. That doesn’t qualify and close to even a conversation about us being a good running attack.

What about running completion %?! Thats the stat that really tells the true story of how good the RBs are!

 

[Crazy Ivan]

We had 66 yards rushing against UGA. That doesn’t qualify and close to even a conversation about us being a good running attack.

I said this is a good RB corp. I didn't say we had a good running attack right now. A good running attack doesn't just consist of RBs doing their jobs, it also means OLs, as well as TEs, and sometimes WRs, are also doing their jobs with their blocking assignments. If and when that happens, then this can be a good running attack.

 

[njvols]

I think if you looked at hits/hurries per dropback, the numbers would fall more in line with reality. No idea what the numbers are, but it Doesn't feel like we're throwing it very much compared to everybody else.

Not running enough either...Three and outs will do that to you.

 

[a vol n tears]

After reading several replies to my op I think most agree that stats do not tell a story. You either have to really look at all stats, or watch the team play lot of games. Some on here want to put out stats about our QB, RB, WR, etc. but they mean nothing without seeing the complete story. (although I was amazed looking at Tua's stat line)

 

[njvols]

After reading several replies to my op I think most agree that stats do not tell a story. You either have to really look at all stats, or watch the team play lot of games. Some on here want to put out stats about our QB, RB, WR, etc. but they mean nothing without seeing the complete story. (although I was amazed looking at Tua's stat line)

You're right. This team may not have a bunch of great stat lines, but, doesn't mean that we can't win any meaningful games this year...they've just got to have a well executed and dialed in game plan, which involves minimal "critical" errors and mistakes...thru 4 quarters, not a quarter and half.

 

[VOL_Lyfe]

Auburn’s DLine is nasty. Top tier talented. If our OLine is going to make progress it’d better happen within the next 12 days or JG is going to get murdered. Now is the time for our OC to dial up something to attempt to negate their pass rush.

Helton may want to look into snipers.

 

[savannahfan]

I think those stats are a little deceiving, but the o-line did seem to make strides against UGA in pass protection. They handled the blitz better than at any other time this season. I think the offense as a whole found some confidence and a better attitude in the second half. Hopefully they build on it and it carries over to the Auburn game.

Ga. didn't blitz us much because they didn't have to. Their front 3 or 4 or whatever, didn't need a blitzer to get to our backfield.

 

[savannahfan]

Helton may want to look into snipers.

The same thing was said about Ga.'s d-line He lived. I expect the same against a-burn. He will live and likely do the same as he did against Ga.

 

[AndyMizunogolfer]

OL is killing us on penalties. Drive killers at that.