SEC official's take on last night

#101
#101
HawaiiVol said:
Wrong.

It was not a late hit, and the fact the official standing 6 feet away from the hit didn't call it speaks volumes compared to what the talking heads are claiming.

That was one call the officials actually got correct in the midst of their officiating meltdown.
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I'm as big a vol fan as you, and it seemed pretty obvious to me it was a late hit... Put another way, officials have called the late hit penalty on hits that happened sooner than thompson's..
 
#102
#102
VolsDeep said:
I'm as big a vol fan as you, and it seemed pretty obvious to me it was a late hit... Put another way, officials have called the late hit penalty on hits that happened sooner than thompson's..
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Thompson contacted the ball carrier late. This happened because a UNC player pushed him that way. Thus, not a late hit.
 
#103
#103
Flathead said:
What I still want explained is, if they had made a pass on the play it would have been called back due to the penalty, so why was the spike allowed to stand and stop the clock when they had a penalty on the play for too many men on the field. This just doesn't add up, and nobody is addressing why the spike was allowed to stop the clock. The spike never happened and the clock ran out! WE WIN anyway you look at it.
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I, too, am interested in an explanation for this? Of course, people will say that it doesn't matter because there wasn't enough time for a pass play but that's not the point. What if (for the sake of argument) there *was* still time left on the clock after completing a pass play and then being called for illegal participation?

Would the play have been wiped out after the penalty? Like it never happened. If the answer is yes, then why isn't the spike with one second also wiped out like it never happened?

Oh, and BTW, I'm a UNC fan who thinks UT might have been screwed in this case, too. Though I don't think it was intentional. I 'm just trying to get an explanation for this hypothetical.
 
#105
#105
notverycrucial said:
I, too, am interested in an explanation for this? Of course, people will say that it doesn't matter because there wasn't enough time for a pass play but that's not the point. What if (for the sake of argument) there *was* still time left on the clock after completing a pass play and then being called for illegal participation?

Would the play have been wiped out after the penalty? Like it never happened. If the answer is yes, then why isn't the spike with one second also wiped out like it never happened?

Oh, and BTW, I'm a UNC fan who thinks UT might have been screwed in this case, too. Though I don't think it was intentional. I 'm just trying to get an explanation for this hypothetical.
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There's also the matter of 25 seconds remaining on the clock after the personal foul penalty. The refs then decided to put 26 seconds on the clock after reviewing the play and calling it incorrectly for the second time. Great stuff.
 
#106
#106
notverycrucial said:
I, too, am interested in an explanation for this? Of course, people will say that it doesn't matter because there wasn't enough time for a pass play but that's not the point. What if (for the sake of argument) there *was* still time left on the clock after completing a pass play and then being called for illegal participation?

Would the play have been wiped out after the penalty? Like it never happened. If the answer is yes, then why isn't the spike with one second also wiped out like it never happened?

Oh, and BTW, I'm a UNC fan who thinks UT might have been screwed in this case, too. Though I don't think it was intentional. I 'm just trying to get an explanation for this hypothetical.
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Repost:
If they had thrown the ball down field incomplete the clock would have ran out because it would have used at least 1 second; game over.
If they throw a completed pass, time still runs out, play is wiped off; game over.
In this case they say he spiked it, stopping the clock, with 1 second left; game NOT over.
 
#108
#108
Has anybody realized that with all the controversy if Dooley simply takes the delay of game 5 yard penalty instead of calling time out with 1 second on play clock then the game was absolutely over when NC spiked ball? Coach Dooley needs to learn from this mistake.
 
#109
#109
salocke said:
Has anybody realized that with all the controversy if Dooley simply takes the delay of game 5 yard penalty instead of calling time out with 1 second on play clock then the game was absolutely over when NC spiked ball? Coach Dooley needs to learn from this mistake.
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Doubt he was anticipating the refs adding one second onto the game clock after reviewing a poorly-called play to confirm that poor call, then not cover the ball for a defensive substitution, then allow a play to run with 47 players and 4 coaches on the field.
 
#110
#110
kptvol said:
Doubt he was anticipating the refs adding one second onto the game clock after reviewing a poorly-called play to confirm that poor call, then not cover the ball for a defensive substitution, then allow a play to run with 47 players and 4 coaches on the field.
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With experience he'll get better at clock management in these situations. Sarcasm*
 
#111
#111
Stig said:
"Here's what the rule says, when the offense substitutes a player, then the umpire is supposed to cover the ball and not let the ball be snapped until the defense has an opportunity to react to the substitution, so, by rule, technically, the ball probably should have never gotten snapped," Goode said. "So, is that an error, well, it could be."

Here is the entire article.
SEC official reacts to call that sent Music City Bowl into overtime | wbir.com
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Even in telling the truth, he's hedging.
 
#112
#112
kptvol said:
Doubt he was anticipating the refs adding one second onto the game clock after reviewing a poorly-called play to confirm that poor call, then not cover the ball for a defensive substitution, then allow a play to run with 47 players and 4 coaches on the field.
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I was just buzzed from the replay booth . . . there were actually 5 coaches, 4 ferrets, 2 shih tzu, and 1 llama on the field during the last play.
 
#113
#113
mmmjtx said:
Somebody in a previous thread cited a rule that when the referee says a game is over, the game is over. In my 45 years of watching college football (or pro, for that matter), I have never seen a review when the referee says the game is over. What is the rule covering reviews? Can the officials actually declare a game is over, and then review to see if it is actually over?
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If the game is never over they will be pulling players off of airplanes and buses to finish a game they don't like.....
 
#114
#114
wounded mullet said:
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HAHAHAHA!!! That's my favorite skit of all time on T&EASGJ!
 
#115
#115
VolsDeep said:
I'm as big a vol fan as you, and it seemed pretty obvious to me it was a late hit... Put another way, officials have called the late hit penalty on hits that happened sooner than thompson's..
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Uhh, when did I ever bring your fandom into question? That's for all the children to whip out and feel important.

Why you're wrong has been covered since. A big ol' healthy shove from a UNC player created the contact.

edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f80yESPtoWw
 
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#116
#116
HawaiiVol said:
Uhh, when did I ever bring your fandom into question? That's for all the children to whip out and feel important.

Why you're wrong has been covered since. A big ol' healthy shove from a UNC player created the contact.
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YES! Finally, someone who saw that! Wouldn't that have been a block in the back?
 
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