SEC Divisional Winner, Since Florida Has Confused Things

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I felt Feldman and Brando made some fair points covering/critcizing how the SEC handled this, both schools being at fault, and how it played out (along with some underlying issues in college football of each part/institution doing only what's best for their constituency rather than the game as a whole, and no one above them to balance out / look to maintain the credibility of the game itself).:

FOX Sports' Bruce Feldman, Tim Brando criticize the SEC over Florida-LSU game


(I would have just posted the video but I'm not sure how to embed a video that started on Facebook onto this site...a link for just the video:https://www.facebook.com/brucefeldman/videos/vb.238131489622620/785898344845929/?type=2&theater )
 
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GAVol said:
I get all of that. My point is, you can't blame them for canceling the game on Saturday. You CAN blame them for not changing locations several days ago or pushing the game back a day or two to see what happens.
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GAVol said:
I keep hearing about this "8 game rule". I've seen nothing to document that it's actually a thing.
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http://assets.espn.go.com/SEC/media/2016/Final Commissioners Regulations.pdf

Each Conference team shall play eight Conference games each year. The schedule will consist of a 6-1-1
format, whereby each institution will play all six of its division opponents, one permanent opponent and one
rotating opponent from the other division each year. The permanent non-division opponents will be as
follows:
 Alabama v. Tennessee
 Arkansas v. Missouri
 Auburn v. Georgia
 LSU v. Florida
 Ole Miss v. Vanderbilt
 Mississippi State v. Kentucky
 Texas A&M v. South Carolina
The remaining six non-divisional opponents will be played on a rotating basis. The sites, dates, and rotation
of the eight-game schedule shall be set by administrative action of the Conference. Any conflicts that result
in this schedule that cannot be resolved by the institutions involved will be submitted to the SEC Presidents
and Chancellors for final resolution.
 
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TrueOrange said:
Honestly, the stuff coming in today is starting to make it look like it was Sankey made the call to postpone the game based on the late logistical issues and safety concerns the two schools were presenting.
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Sankey has left it to the institutions to deal with, which is why we're where we are.

in 05, Slive was heavily involved with the rescheduling of the TN/LSU game. i'd expect it'd take that same level of involvement to straighten this out, if it can be now.
 
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This will sound crazy and unrealistic, but it seems like a fair alternative to the problem.

This year only they should even the playing field by counting only 7 games instead of 8 for to decide an SEC champ. They could take away the annual East vs West game and make it not count as far as the SEC seeding is concerned. It would still count on the national scale though because the games still need to have importance or what is the point?

For instance,

UGA vs Auburn would not count for SEC placement
LSU vs Florida would not count for SEC placement
TN vs Alabama would not count for SEC placement
A&M vs Missouri would not count for SEC placement
etc...

Make it a 7 game SEC season this year only.
 
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That just outlines the schedule. Where in there does it say that a team is disqualified from the SECCG if they have to cancel a game?
 
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GAVol said:
I keep hearing about this "8 game rule". I've seen nothing to document that it's actually a thing.
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I think it's people taking the text the rule was written with too literally.

Like, in the same vein as the way people think that because replays must be "inconclusive,"calls can be made only if you actually see the ball's exact location at the moment being reviewed.
 
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GAVol said:
Where in there does it say that a team is disqualified from the SECCG if they have to cancel a game?
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It doesn't. It says they HAVE to play 8 conference games. In order to not, they have to have a resolution voted on by a quorum of the SEC Member School Presidents and Chancellors.
 
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Better idea. Kick fl out and replace em with fl st. Dont care for fl st but it would piss off the gators even more.
 
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jakez4ut said:
Sankey has left it to the institutions to deal with, which is why we're where we are.

in 05, Slive was heavily involved with the rescheduling of the TN/LSU game. i'd expect it'd take that same level of involvement to straighten this out, if it can be now.
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Yeah, agree.
 
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TN_Transplant said:
It's not up to Sankey. The Presidents and Chancellors of the SEC members schools have to propose and vote on a resolution.

http://assets.espn.go.com/SEC/media/2016/Final Commissioners Regulations.pdf

Each Conference team shall play eight Conference games each year. The schedule will consist of a 6-1-1
format, whereby each institution will play all six of its division opponents, one permanent opponent and one
rotating opponent from the other division each year. The permanent non-division opponents will be as
follows:
 Alabama v. Tennessee
 Arkansas v. Missouri
 Auburn v. Georgia
 LSU v. Florida
 Ole Miss v. Vanderbilt
 Mississippi State v. Kentucky
 Texas A&M v. South Carolina
The remaining six non-divisional opponents will be played on a rotating basis. The sites, dates, and rotation
of the eight-game schedule shall be set by administrative action of the Conference. Any conflicts that result
in this schedule that cannot be resolved by the institutions involved will be submitted to the SEC Presidents
and Chancellors for final resolution.
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GAVol said:
I keep hearing about this "8 game rule". I've seen nothing to document that it's actually a thing.
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the bolded info above is the only thing i've seen that remotely deals with a situation close to this. and one could interpret this to mean that the chancellors and presidents could intervene to come to a decision.

it's still not clear what that resolution would be....to play the game, and when, or simply not allow a 7 game conf schedule not compete for the SEC title. not sure they could, or would, overrule the win % rule as stated for qualifying for the title game.
 
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TrueOrange said:
I think it's people taking the text the rule was written with too literally.

Like, in the same vein as the way people think that because replays must be "inconclusive,"calls can be made only if you actually see the ball's exact location at the moment being reviewed.
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The legal definition of the term shall means that it's not a choice. They have to. If they can't, a resolution must be decided by a vote of the Presidents and Chancellors of the SEC Member schools.
 
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Funny, Florida scared! Hope we beat A&M and Florida will look weak doing this. If you can't beat us screw the system.
 
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jakez4ut said:
the bolded info above is the only thing i've seen that remotely deals with a situation close to this. and one could interpret this to mean that the chancellors and presidents could intervene to come to a decision.

it's still not clear what that resolution would be....to play the game, and when, or simply not allow a 7 game conf schedule not compete for the SEC title. not sure they could, or would, overrule the win % rule as stated for qualifying for the title game.
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You are correct. They could vote to just cancel the game and let Florida be the East Champion. But, my point is that Sankey and the ADs for Florida and LSU don't get final decision here.
 
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GAVol said:
I keep hearing about this "8 game rule". I've seen nothing to document that it's actually a thing.
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It seems implied, but not required. This is the source of all the confusion. Why have a percentage based system if everyone is required to play eight games? It would just be number of wins, head-to-head, etc. It almost seems like the language is specifically vague.

But I've got my tin foil hat on today.
 
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I know it would be the biggest crock of **** if the SEC does not make LSU and Flordia make this game up and flordià didn't loose another conference game and the Vols loose two it would be a complete travesty to let the gators play in the sec championship game that being said I don't think the gators will win out .
 
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