SEC Could say FU NCAA!!

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#27
UTwild82 said:
Can we finally just say the truth? Sankey is a mid commissioner.

He got played into going to 9 conference games plus a P4 OOC opponent. Indiana was a number 1 seed while playing 2 ranked B1G teams (Iowa, Oregon) and Kennesaw St, Old Dominion, and Indiana St in regular season. SOS is still.not given serious consideration in seeding. And did we get more $$$ for that? I read reports that ESPN was "willing" to pay but I'm not sure I saw confirmation they actually did.

Speaking of TV, the B1G is lapping us in TV dollars. 10 for $3 billion for us. The B1G has a $7B for 7 years across multiple networks AND will renegotiate for a higher deal before us. And looking at last few years, I think it's safe to safe those dollars matter.

Kramer and Slive were visionaries who lead the pack. Sankey just seems so reactionary.

And there is a 0% chance the SEC can break away on it's own. A 40 to 48 team SEC and B1G breakaway makes sense bc then you have enough schools for all of your sports. But why would the B1G at this point upset the apple cart? Things are working great for them. And they'll get their 24 team playoff because eventually Sankey will cave. And the B1G has the B12 and ACC lined up behind them at the moment.
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You are wrong a few times here
 
#28
#28
Rickyvol77 said:
You are wrong a few times here
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Pete Nakos in an On3 article confirms the TV numbers.

www.on3.com

Disney, ESPN winning big on $3 billion SEC TV contract

Nearly four years after that TV contract was signed, the SEC and ESPN are seeing a major payoff.
www.on3.com www.on3.com

A simple search on Google will show you Indiana's schedule.

Another simple Google search will show you that the Big 10 has won the last 3 CFB NCs, the last MCBB NC, and they have the number 1 baseball team (UCLA).

But go on, do bring your amazing 'You'Re wROng' statements with no facts.
 
#29
#29
UTwild82 said:
Can we finally just say the truth? Sankey is a mid commissioner.

He got played into going to 9 conference games plus a P4 OOC opponent. Indiana was a number 1 seed while playing 2 ranked B1G teams (Iowa, Oregon) and Kennesaw St, Old Dominion, and Indiana St in regular season. SOS is still.not given serious consideration in seeding. And did we get more $$$ for that? I read reports that ESPN was "willing" to pay but I'm not sure I saw confirmation they actually did.

Speaking of TV, the B1G is lapping us in TV dollars. 10 for $3 billion for us. The B1G has a $7B for 7 years across multiple networks AND will renegotiate for a higher deal before us. And looking at last few years, I think it's safe to safe those dollars matter.

Kramer and Slive were visionaries who lead the pack. Sankey just seems so reactionary.

And there is a 0% chance the SEC can break away on its own. A 40 to 48 team SEC and B1G breakaway makes sense bc then you have enough schools for all of your sports. But why would the B1G at this point upset the apple cart? Things are working great for them. And they'll get their 24 team playoff because eventually Sankey will cave. And the B1G has the B12 and ACC lined up behind them at the moment.
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- The SEC going to 9 conference games is smart and what the TV execs wanted as well. It doesn’t have any effect on anything else playoff wise
- oOC schedule doesn’t matter as much anymore especially with the expanded playoffs.
- the big ten tv deal is “higher” because it is across 4 networks where the SEC is mostly one. The big ten is overpaid last time because the only real audiences they want is Ohio st/ Michigan/Penn st/ Oregon and USC. No one is watching any other big ten game and they are getting dwarfed by the SEC tv numbers. Ask OSU fans about their noon matchups on Fox and CBS against weak opponents. They hate it. The SEC is just fine and will be even better in 2032
- the SEC and Big Ten and a mix of ACC/Big 12 leftovers will be the only main conferences after 2032. When we add the NC and VA schools, Clemson, possibly FSU and some mix of Ga Tech/Duke/Kansas a whole new world of sports is coming
- the big ten has won 3 titles so what? Doesn’t mean any more than it did when SEC dominated the sport for 30 years. We are fine and in a great position.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
- The SEC going to 9 conference games is smart and what the TV execs wanted as well. It doesn’t have any effect on anything else playoff wise
- oOC schedule doesn’t matter as much anymore especially with the expanded playoffs.
- the big ten tv deal is “higher” because it is across 4 networks where the SEC is mostly one. The big ten is overpaid last time because the only real audiences they want is Ohio st/ Michigan/Penn st/ Oregon and USC. No one is watching any other big ten game and they are getting dwarfed by the SEC tv numbers. Ask OSU fans about their noon matchups on Fox and CBS against weak opponents. They hate it. The SEC is just fine and will be even better in 2032
- the SEC and Big Ten and a mix of ACC/Big 12 leftovers will be the only main conferences after 2032. When we add the NC and VA schools, Clemson, possibly FSU and some mix of Ga Tech/Duke/Kansas a whole new world of sports is coming
- the big ten has won 3 titles so what? Doesn’t mean any more than it did when SEC dominated the sport for 30 years. We are fine and in a great position.
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- If going to 9 games is what TV execs want AND doesn't have any effect on playoffs, why do it without getting paid? That kind of makes my point. Who cares if someone wants it if they arent paying you a whole lot more money to do it? Having a more difficult schedule cost Texas. A 10-2 Texas with a win over North Texas rather than loss to OSU makes the playoff. A 9-3 Texas with a loss to Ohio State (or even if it were TN, Bama, etc) still gets left out. There is 0 reason to increase your SOS at this point.
- Agree with you that if they expand the playoffs it matters less, but it will matter in terms of seeding. Using the TX example above, that 10-2 team gets seeded higher.
it's hard to say the B1G being overpaid, because something is worth what they can get paid. But for the sake of argument, if they are, doesn't that speak to our leadership negotiating a bad deal? Would you rather "know you are worth more" or actually get paid more? $$$ talks. And spreading it across 4 networks is genius in terms of getting paid more. Another example how the B1G is lapping us.
-SEC and B1G may expand further, but if Notre Dame isn't involved, is it worth it? Is adding Florida State, Miami, Utah, etc worth hundreds of millions more to networks? Because not only do they have to pay that team, they have to increase the amount paid to each team in the conference to make it worth it. Maybe next time it's advantageous to cut Rutgers, Vandy, Mississippi State, Northwestern, Purdue, etc before adding teams. That would be almost unthinkable, but if Ohio State's or Texas's TV dollars could double, cutting dead weight might be on the table. No clue how it turns out, but I do agree in some way things will change next round of TV deals.
-The B1G winning more and more is proof of concept. Yes, we dominated CFB for forever. Now that the rules have changed the B1G not only caught up but seems to have passed us. It's not even so much that UM and OSU won, it's Indiana. With the exception of the TX schools, the Big Ten schools have larger and typically wealthier alumni bases than the SEC. For example, both Indiana and Illinois have over 800K living alumni. UT is under 300K. Bama and Auburn even less than us. Florida is only around 500K. We are seeing with Indiana that is paying off. Now all those alumni are engaged in a way we never thought possible. That's a BIG deal. Especially if those schools are getting close to doubling the SEC TV dollars. This is a world where $$$ talk, everything else walks. You always want more.

I just have lost confidence Sankey is the guy to turn this around. I'm not an expert, I'm just a judge by what you've done kind of person. Color me unimpressed with him.
 
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