SEC Could say FU NCAA!!

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Kirby Smart saying "If we can't find rules that everybody plays by, then we should play by our own" is just about the richest, thickest sack of crap I could imagine.

SEC schools have been some of the leaders in not playing by the rules. Same for the big Big 10 schools. The rules have never been the problem. There have always been rules, and a lot of schools have followed them. The problem has always been the donors, boosters, and school representatives at big schools who want the rules to apply to everyone else, but not to them, and who bleat like scalded piglets the moment someone tried to punish them for ignoring the rules.

That won't change no matter where the schools go, because it's the schools and the people around the schools driving the lack of respect for rules and regulations.
 
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woodpusher said:
So they would play 12 games against each other in conference?
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My takeaway is this:
This will be much like when our country was founded!
The SEC AD's and coaches et ex will get together and hammer out a set of rules and guardrails (for all college sports) that everyone can live with (yes, there will be changes along the way (ie: amendments). Other conferences will watch and either adopt the same rules, join the SEC etc. Until we make some common sense out of college sports again.
And the NCAA will fade away into oblivion where they belong.
 
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NV Vol said:
So, the SEC is willing to walk away from 70 million per year (2024-2025 conference share) NCAA men's basketball tournament revenue, not be able to compete in the college baseball World Series or the women's basketball or softball tournaments? Something to consider.
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I'm not sure how that works. Gonzaga is about to join the PAC 12 and doesn't play football. Granted, they don't play football elsewhere like the SEC is seemingly considering.

My problem is the football business wouldn't be able to be an "NCAA clone" but will have to be structured to not violate Antitrust Law from the start.

Fans would have to accept a business model that's much closer to a pro league than I think most want to see. An upstart league that doesn't include collective bargaining, salary caps, contracts, etc will be sued into oblivion from the start and another football pro league faces hard competition and fan disapproval.
 
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Also, this aint' happnin' overnight! But, getting all the SEC involved and put something "on paper" that makes sense will be much better than the BS, fly by the seat of their pants rules that the NCAA has come up with so far!
 
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All 16 teams in the SEC only playing against each other for the national title is the dumbest $hit ever. Never gonna happen .
 
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Can we finally just say the truth? Sankey is a mid commissioner.

He got played into going to 9 conference games plus a P4 OOC opponent. Indiana was a number 1 seed while playing 2 ranked B1G teams (Iowa, Oregon) and Kennesaw St, Old Dominion, and Indiana St in regular season. SOS is still.not given serious consideration in seeding. And did we get more $$$ for that? I read reports that ESPN was "willing" to pay but I'm not sure I saw confirmation they actually did.

Speaking of TV, the B1G is lapping us in TV dollars. 10 for $3 billion for us. The B1G has a $7B for 7 years across multiple networks AND will renegotiate for a higher deal before us. And looking at last few years, I think it's safe to safe those dollars matter.

Kramer and Slive were visionaries who lead the pack. Sankey just seems so reactionary.

And there is a 0% chance the SEC can break away on it's own. A 40 to 48 team SEC and B1G breakaway makes sense bc then you have enough schools for all of your sports. But why would the B1G at this point upset the apple cart? Things are working great for them. And they'll get their 24 team playoff because eventually Sankey will cave. And the B1G has the B12 and ACC lined up behind them at the moment.
 
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JustFunnN'Orange said:
My takeaway is this:
This will be much like when our country was founded!
The SEC AD's and coaches et ex will get together and hammer out a set of rules and guardrails (for all college sports) that everyone can live with (yes, there will be changes along the way (ie: amendments). Other conferences will watch and either adopt the same rules, join the SEC etc. Until we make some common sense out of college sports again.
And the NCAA will fade away into oblivion where they belong.
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I can’t wait for someone to ask me to sign my “Greg Sankey” (John Hancock) on the dotted line.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Careful what you wish for. SCOTUS essentially ruled the NCAA was an illegal business model. Any new business that forms to regulate college sports will have to be based on a full on pro model to be legal.

So you want UT to play in the NFL Lite League?
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Devil's advocate: With NIL and unlimited transfers, we're already there... but without the NFL's safeguards.

The Djinni ain't going back into the bottle.

College players are now, effectively, employees.

If the NCAA can't regulate it, then the SEC should forge its own route.
 
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UTwild82 said:
Can we finally just say the truth? Sankey is a mid commissioner.

He got played into going to 9 conference games plus a P4 OOC opponent. Indiana was a number 1 seed while playing 2 ranked B1G teams (Iowa, Oregon) and Kennesaw St, Old Dominion, and Indiana St in regular season. SOS is still.not given serious consideration in seeding. And did we get more $$$ for that? I read reports that ESPN was "willing" to pay but I'm not sure I saw confirmation they actually did.

Speaking of TV, the B1G is lapping us in TV dollars. 10 for $3 billion for us. The B1G has a $7B for 7 years across multiple networks AND will renegotiate for a higher deal before us. And looking at last few years, I think it's safe to safe those dollars matter.

Kramer and Slive were visionaries who lead the pack. Sankey just seems so reactionary.

And there is a 0% chance the SEC can break away on it's own. A 40 to 48 team SEC and B1G breakaway makes sense bc then you have enough schools for all of your sports. But why would the B1G at this point upset the apple cart? Things are working great for them. And they'll get their 24 team playoff because eventually Sankey will cave. And the B1G has the B12 and ACC lined up behind them at the moment.
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That would also force Notre Dame to either joint the super League or to get marginalized for years.
 
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MontyPython said:
Devil's advocate: With NIL and unlimited transfers, we're already there... but without the NFL's safeguards.

The Djinni ain't going back into the bottle.

College players are now, effectively, employees.

If the NCAA can't regulate it, then the SEC should forge its own route.
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It's definitely headed in that direction but the changes will land like a fart in church for a lot of fans.

Especially if the athletes try to negotiate "school attendance is optional" and there's major legal issues, I've heard, with the State of TN owning a pro team, tax free status for the school if it's in the pro sports business, etc.
 
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