SEC coaches ranked 1-14

#51
#51
My rankings. I think 2-6 are interchangeable and 7-12 are as well.


1. Saban

Huge Gap




2. Mullen
3. Fisher
4. Coach O
5. Malzahn
6. Smart

Another Gap

7. Leach
8. Stoops
9. Pruitt
10. Kiffin
11. Muschamp
12. Drinkwitz

Another Gap

13. Mason

Gasp, Another Gap

14. Pittman
 
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#52
Why do let some in bred Mizz upset you with some list. Guess hid did the list because MZ ain't going to a bowl game in the near future.

BTW, for you Kiffin Sniffers,

Butch Jones 0.539
Kiffin 0.538

Kiffin did have a #1 recruiting class, full of dopers and troublemakers, that fell completely apart. They weren't recruited to UT they were recruited to LK's promise to get into the NFL.

This was the beginning of fall of UT's dynasty. Hamilton should have hired Mark Dantonio instead of LK, he took Michigan St. to a CFP with a bunch of 3 stars.
 
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salutethehill said:
Saban
Orgeron
Fisher
Smart
Mullen
Leach
Malzhan
Pruitt
Stoops
Kiffin
Muschamp
12-14?

I hate putting Kiffin at 10. He's a heck of a coach. He could rise quickly, but it's gonna be tough in the West... at Ole Miss.
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I'd go:

Saban
Orgeron
Fisher
Smart
Pruitt
Mullen
Malzahn
Leach
Kiffin
Stoops
Muschamp
Mason
Pittman
Drinkwitz
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
My rankings. I think 2-6 are interchangeable and 7-12 are as well.


1. Saban

Huge Gap




2. Mullen
3. Fisher
4. Coach O
5. Malzahn
6. Smart

Another Gap

7. Leach
8. Stoops
9. Pruitt
10. Kiffin
11. Muschamp
12. Drinkwitz

Another Gap

13. Mason

Gasp, Another Gap

14. Pittman
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I don't get the love for Mullen, Malzahn or Stoops. Pruitt is 2-0 against Stoops and 1-0 against Malzahn. Smart is 8-3 against you're 2 thru 5.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
I don't get the love for Mullen, Malzahn or Stoops. Pruitt is 2-0 against Stoops and 1-0 against Malzahn. Smart is 8-3 against you're 2 thru 5.
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You have to weigh heavily the situations and realize coaches compete against 13 other teams other than UT.

Stoops took over a program in the dumps and one that has been for the last 50 years and won 10 games. He has struggled against UT but hes done better against Vandy, USCe, and UF than Pruitt has the past 2 years. Hes above Pruitt (at this time) because he has achieved as much or more as a HC with a far higher level of difficulty.

Mullen took over a program in the dumps at MSU (the hardest job in the SEC other than Vandy) and had them in NY6 bowls and #1 in the country. He took over a 4 win team (just like Pruitt) and had 2 successful years at UF. Again 2-6 are real close in my opinion. If UF does not contend for playoff spot this or next season, then Mullen will fall down closer to #6.

Smart was tough to grade but he took over a 10 win team in an East that was decimated with an awful UT and UF. He has great instate talent without another relevant instate rival. In 2016, when he had more comparable talent, Butch Jones, GA Tech, and Derek Mason all outcoached him at the end. No coach other than Coach O has inherited such an easy spot to win. Coach O took advantage and won a Natty and beat Bama. Kirby hasnt done that yet.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
You have to weigh heavily the situations and realize coaches compete against 13 other teams other than UT.

Stoops took over a program in the dumps and one that has been for the last 50 years and won 10 games. He has struggled against UT but hes done better against Vandy, USCe, and UF than Pruitt has the past 2 years. Hes above Pruitt (at this time) because he has achieved as much or more as a HC with a far higher level of difficulty.

Mullen took over a program in the dumps at MSU (the hardest job in the SEC other than Vandy) and had them in NY6 bowls and #1 in the country. He took over a 4 win team (just like Pruitt) and had 2 successful years at UF. Again 2-6 are real close in my opinion. If UF does not contend for playoff spot this or next season, then Mullen will fall down closer to #6.

Smart was tough to grade but he took over a 10 win team in an East that was decimated with an awful UT and UF. He has great instate talent without another relevant instate rival. In 2016, when he had more comparable talent, Butch Jones, GA Tech, and Derek Mason all outcoached him at the end. No coach other than Coach O has inherited such an easy spot to win. Coach O took advantage and won a Natty and beat Bama. Kirby hasnt done that yet.
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Seems like you’re only judging Smart on his first year in the SEC. He’s undefeated against Mullen and has a 4-1 record against Malzahn. Also the only coach besides Saban to have a winning record against top 10 opponents. I could understand Orgeron and Fisher above him with their championships, but Mullen and Malzahn haven’t had near the same success.
 
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GetYouSomeofThat said:
If my wife landed a job as HC at Alabama she would likely win more games that Lane Kiffin or Mike Leach this year.


Is she a better coach?


To be more impressed by winning big enough in the ACC to get to the title game vs taking a Miss St program and being competitive foloowed by taking over a 4-7 UF program and going 10-3 ans 11-2 is to not look at the entire situation before evaluating abilities.
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Have you wondered why Jimbo was hired by FSU and Mullen was hired by MSU? Elite programs hire elite coaches. Bama would never hire your wife as HC. And BTW, how elite has FSU been since Jimbo left?
 
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#59
Bennessee01 said:
Why do let some in bred Mizz upset you with some list. Guess hid did the list because MZ ain't going to a bowl game in the near future.

BTW, for you Kiffin Sniffers,

Butch Jones 0.539
Kiffin 0.538

Kiffin did have a #1 recruiting class, full of dopers and troublemakers, that fell completely apart. They weren't recruited to UT they were recruited to LK's promise to get into the NFL.

This was the beginning of fall of UT's dynasty. Hamilton should have hired Mark Dantonio instead of LK, he took Michigan St. to a CFP with a bunch of 3 stars.
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Yeah I think we’re good without Mark Dantonio.
Mark Dantonio’s resignation comes after allegations the coach committed multiple NCAA violations at Michigan State
 
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Atlanta917 said:
Seems like you’re only judging Smart on his first year in the SEC. He’s undefeated against Mullen and has a 4-1 record against Malzahn. Also the only coach besides Saban to have a winning record against top 10 opponents. I could understand Orgeron and Fisher above him with their championships, but Mullen and Malzahn haven’t had near the same success.
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Again, Smart and Coach O was incredibly difficult to rank and the difference between 2 and 6 is so small. Both inherited jobs where they had an incredible head start compared to the situations inherited by the other 12 coaches. In the case of O, why could he not win at Ole Miss but Mullen could win at MSU. Was 2019 Coach O's Chizik lightning in a bottle season?

I'll admit after analyzing your arguments, Malzahn should be 6th.
 
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LTVol said:
Have you wondered why Jimbo was hired by FSU and Mullen was hired by MSU? Elite programs hire elite coaches. Bama would never hire your wife as HC. And BTW, how elite has FSU been since Jimbo left?
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Derek Dooley, Butch Jones, Mike Dubose, Mike Shula, Clay Helton, Lane Kiffin, Ron Zook, Will Muschamp, Jim Mcilwain and Ray Goff all say hi
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Again, Smart and Coach O was incredibly difficult to rank and the difference between 2 and 6 is so small. Both inherited jobs where they had an incredible head start compared to the situations inherited by the other 12 coaches. In the case of O, why could he not win at Ole Miss but Mullen could win at MSU. Was 2019 Coach O's Chizik lightning in a bottle season?

I'll admit after analyzing your arguments, Malzahn should be 6th.
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Mullen did ok at MSU. He beat the teams he was supposed to beat. While there he got the worst record against ranked opponents while ranked in ncaa history. I do agree with you that you can’t throw out O’s time at ole miss. I think it’s difficult to rank the coaches because it’s hard to adjust for school and they never clarify the criteria. If we’re talking about the success each coach has had at their current school, which is probably the most relevant, then I’d go Saban, Orgeron, Smart, Mazlahn, and then Mullen. My issue with Mullen is that he’s not a good enough offensive mind to make up for his lack of recruiting. Unless he lets go of grantham and finds a DC who is an ace recruiter, the east will turn into UGA vs UT. Both of those schools will recruit at an elite level and have elite defenses. The deciding factor will be schedule and which team can find the better OC.
 
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#64
Crazy Ivan said:
Why not? WM had the 11-2 record his 2nd season at UF, and he went 9-4 his 2nd season at SC. Other than those 2 seasons he's done no better than 7-6 in any other of the 6 combined seasons at either school and has a 34-40 record combined in those 6 seasons. I think we have likely seen his ceiling. Pruitt OTOH, appears to be on an upward projectory, riding a 6-game win streak that included a beat down of SC. I would have Pruitt at #9, in front of both Muschamp and Kiffin.
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Look at the quality of wins though Pruitt simply hasn't been a Head coach for very long and doesn't deserve a higher spot just yet. Give him a few more years and he will climb the SEC best coach ladder.
 
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#67
TAF said:
He's OWNED Tennessee the last several years...

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He's owned 2 bad coaches and a few of those wins were with players he inherited. Pruitt is 1-1 against him and at this time is trending upward. Muschamp would be fired already if his buyout wasn't so crazy high.
 
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Atlanta917 said:
Seems like you’re only judging Smart on his first year in the SEC. He’s undefeated against Mullen and has a 4-1 record against Malzahn. Also the only coach besides Saban to have a winning record against top 10 opponents. I could understand Orgeron and Fisher above him with their championships, but Mullen and Malzahn haven’t had near the same success.
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Pruitt is better than Kirby, Pruitt is undefeated vs Malzahn
 
#69
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1.Saban
2. Orgeron
3. Smart
4. Mullen
5. Fisher
6. Malzahn
7. Pruitt
8. Stoops
9. Kiffin
10. Leach
11. Mason
12. Pittman
13. Drinkwater
14. Muschamp
 
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#71
Only problem I have with the comments I’ve followed along with in this thread:

You all do realize Stoops is a phenomenal coach, right? In my opinion one of the best in the SEC. Don’t forget this is Kentucky, Kentucky has a losing overall record as a program. They are in the same ballpark as Vandy, yet Stoops just had them bowling for the 4th consecutive year, had them near the Top 10 in 2018 (which is insane), broke the Florida streak (and unlike Butch, didn’t need home field advantage, triple the talent, and a miracle comeback to do it), and lost his QB this past year forcing him to go triple-option and still pulled out a good year.

He’s earned a pretty good amount of respect.
 
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#72
knox-townVOL said:
Only problem I have with the comments I’ve followed along with in this thread:

You all do realize Stoops is a phenomenal coach, right? In my opinion one of the best in the SEC. Don’t forget this is Kentucky, Kentucky has a losing overall record as a program. They are in the same ballpark as Vandy, yet Stoops just had them bowling for the 4th consecutive year, had them near the Top 10 in 2018 (which is insane), broke the Florida streak (and unlike Butch, didn’t need home field advantage, triple the talent, and a miracle comeback to do it), and lost his QB this past year forcing him to go triple-option and still pulled out a good year.

He’s earned a pretty good amount of respect.
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Stoops sucks and is overrated. He’s done nothing special at UK
 
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