SEC Champ Game ... UT vs LSU

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LSU-SIU said:
If Bama has only one loss total, they are going to the playoffs.
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If Bama's one loss is in the SEC Championship game, and the winner of the game doesn't go to the playoffs - Bama should not go regardless of what their record is.

But if that were to happen, then all conferences should just cancel the conference championships games because they will in effect mean nothing.
 
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volfan102455 said:
If Bama's one loss is in the SEC Championship game, and the winner of the game doesn't go to the playoffs - Bama should not go regardless of what their record is.

But if that were to happen, then all conferences should just cancel the conference championships games because they will in effect mean nothing.
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I just don't see them leaving a SEC or Big10 champion out. The playoff committee would have a mess if they did.
 
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volfan102455 said:
If Bama's one loss is in the SEC Championship game, and the winner of the game doesn't go to the playoffs - Bama should not go regardless of what their record is.

But if that were to happen, then all conferences should just cancel the conference championships games because they will in effect mean nothing.
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Absolutely
 
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HuntinVol said:
From the looks of Arkansas it's not that one. LSU is our only hope of winning the sec east.
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Not necessarily. Arky had a bad day yesterday, ran into a redhot Auburn team, just like we ran into Alabama last week....neither is nor Arky are nearly as bad as we looked. I think Arky has a very good shot to knock Florida off at home.
 
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Evet Vols said:
I just don't see them leaving a SEC or Big10 champion out. The playoff committee would have a mess if they did.
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And they would have a mess if they took the loser of the SEC championship game as well. Or any championship game for that matter.

They would basically be saying that winning the conference championship is irrelevant which would lead to every conference asking "why play it and chance having someone you don't want to win, win it?".

This after 2 years ago the reason why a Big 12 team wasn't selected was because they didn't play each other in a championship game.

You can't have it both ways. Either the game matters or it doesn't. And if it doesn't, then conferences will stop playing them to protect their teams.
 
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Eddie Vol Halen said:
Just think about what you just said for a minute....

If LSU wins out, we control our destiny.

That's the very definition of NOT controlling your own destiny. The fact is, we lost to an inferior A&M team, and we were desperate for Florida to reschedule LSU.

Right now, I'm with Sara Clark -- this team doesn't need to focus on anything except taking care of our own business. I don't think running the table is an absolute. The injuries have piled-up but, more importantly, season is over half done and Team 120 has managed to put 4 quarters of total football together over 7 games. It's not knocking the rust off or just misfiring a little bit. It's who Team 120 is.
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LSU winning out controls their own destiny. If we win out with them, we control our own destiny. This thread is based on LSU winning out which makes us the East champs to face them in title game.
 
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volfan102455 said:
If Bama's one loss is in the SEC Championship game, and the winner of the game doesn't go to the playoffs - Bama should not go regardless of what their record is.

But if that were to happen, then all conferences should just cancel the conference championships games because they will in effect mean nothing.
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Bama got into the title game without even being in the SECCG, what do you think is going to happen if they are and now there is a 4-team playoff?

A one loss Bama is going to the playoffs, and there is a good chance even a 2-loss Bama team goes even if they don't win the SECCG. (I don't see these scenarios playing out but if they did, Bama is going.)
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Bama got into the title game without even being in the SECCG, what do you think is going to happen if they are and now there is a 4-team playoff?

A one loss Bama is going to the playoffs, and there is a good chance even a 2-loss Bama team goes even if they don't win the SECCG. (I don't see these scenarios playing out but if they did, Bama is going.)
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So if WVU or Baylor ends up undefeated. Michigan ends up undefeated. Washington ends up undefeated. Clemson ends up undefeated you still believe they take an Alabama team with 1 loss? I don't. I think the SEC gets shut out of the playoffs if that happens.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
LSU winning out controls their own destiny. If we win out with them, we control our own destiny. This thread is based on LSU winning out which makes us the East champs to face them in title game.
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Ah, I'm a moron and half drunk. LSU wins out means they take Bama. My previous post is stupid.
 
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The fact is if we make it to Atlanta, we will play either Alabama or less likely LSU. And we just dont have the personnel to beat either team. I would love to say that we can go and beat either one of those but honestly, I think both of those teams blow us off the field. We already know about Alabama. LSU has big time talent on both sides of the ball and are playing with a TON of emotion.

On the LSU front, we saw what a healthy Fournett can do. Our rush defense has been very poor this year. That is not a good combination for us. I will be happy if we make it and will be cheering for the Vols till thenlast second. But I just see a blowout loss for the Vols either way.
 
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volfan102455 said:
So if WVU or Baylor ends up undefeated. Michigan ends up undefeated. Washington ends up undefeated. Clemson ends up undefeated you still believe they take an Alabama team with 1 loss? I don't. I think the SEC gets shut out of the playoffs if that happens.
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I think that if there are 3 undefeated teams then they would first consider taking any of Alabama/Ohio St./Michigan/Louisville at 1-loss and not winning their conference over a 2-loss SEC champ. But only those 1-loss teams are considered IF there are at least 3 other undefeated teams which would most likely be any 3 of Clemson, Michigan, Washington, Baylor or West Virginia.
 
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volfan102455 said:
So if WVU or Baylor ends up undefeated. Michigan ends up undefeated. Washington ends up undefeated. Clemson ends up undefeated you still believe they take an Alabama team with 1 loss? I don't. I think the SEC gets shut out of the playoffs if that happens.
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No way. At some point SOS, has to come into play. Think about it. If Bama goes undefeated they will have beaten the following ranked teams: USC, TAMU, LSU, Tennessee, Ole Miss and Auburn. They will also have beaten either a ranked UF team or a ranked UT team for the second time. Thats over half of their games against ranked opponents.

Washington on the other hand only plays 2 teams ranked in the top 25. WVU and Baylor are in the same boat. Given how strong the SEC west is, I see no way the SECC gets left out unless its a 2 loss team. A 1 loss SEC champ Alabama is in easily.
 
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njvols said:
our ability to show some creativity on offense other than run between the guards twice and throw on 3rd and 7. Think we've got the ability,
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You mean like LSU since Les Miles is gone? Quarterback under center, throwing down the field, using ALL of our talent, things like that?

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Eddie Vol Halen said:
But we don't control our own destiny. Florida is 1st in the SEC East.

And we better play up to our potential rather than down to our opponent or another sleepwalk conference loss is on the cards for Team 120.
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If LSU wins out then Florida falls behind us.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
LSU winning out controls their own destiny. If we win out with them, we control our own destiny. This thread is based on LSU winning out which makes us the East champs to face them in title game.
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Auburn has one sec lose and a win over lsu. How does that factor in?
 
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volfannbama said:
Auburn has one sec lose and a win over lsu. How does that factor in?
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LSU needs Auburn to lose one more, but they still have to face Alabama, Georgia, and Ole Miss plus Vandy. I have a hard time believing LSU wins out.... Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, and TAM in 19 days.
 
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