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#26
#26
Ugh, stop putting us #1 in the East.

UT should be ahead of us. UGA has enough losses to warrent being the under-dog most of the year
 
#27
#27
jakez4ut said:
that's fine, i generally consider myself an optimist as well, but over the years, i've definitely tried to take a more objective look at it......and when i look at TN and FL objectively, today, in May, i can't say honestly that i think TN is better than them right now.

can they win the game? sure, i would not be surprised at all. they are certainly capable of it.

but there is nothing right now that just jumps out at me and says "that's why we're better".
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I'm being objective and I really don't see UF being the East winner. Losing all that on D will hurt them. I know they've recruited well, but seriously, it seems like people just expect UF to be great and everyone is below them.
 
#29
#29
justingroves said:
I'm being objective and I really don't see UF being the East winner. Losing all that on D will hurt them. I know they've recruited well, but seriously, it seems like people just expect UF to be great and everyone is below them.
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given this past year's recruiting class for UT and the boundless optimism these true freshmen are bringing to knoxivlle this year, would it not stand to reason that a FL team who has reeled in 3-4 of these type classes in a row probably has some pretty good football players already there ready to play?

like i said, the defense will drop off........there's no way it won't. but to what degree..........it would literally have to be Pac 10 bad for it to really matter.
 
#30
#30
jakez4ut said:
given this past year's recruiting class for UT and the boundless optimism these true freshmen are bringing to knoxivlle this year, would it not stand to reason that a FL team who has reeled in 3-4 of these type classes in a row probably has some pretty good football players already there ready to play?

like i said, the defense will drop off........there's no way it won't. but to what degree..........it would literally have to be Pac 10 bad for it to really matter.
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Did you watch UF play last year? Auburn beat them without scoring an offensive TD. LSU fumbled the game away. UF had to block 3 kicks to beat USC.

Take away Moss and they lose to USC. Take away Nelson and they lose to LSU. Hell, the defense played lights out and still lost to Auburn because UF's offense could not move the ball.

Now take away 9 guys on D and that team isn't any where near as good.
 
#31
#31
justingroves said:
Did you watch UF play last year? Auburn beat them without scoring an offensive TD. LSU fumbled the game away. UF had to block 3 kicks to beat USC.

Take away Moss and they lose to USC. Take away Nelson and they lose to LSU. Hell, the defense played lights out and still lost to Auburn because UF's offense could not move the ball.

Now take away 9 guys on D and that team isn't any where near as good.
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FL's offense this season will hardly look like it did last year, just like their defense won't resemble last years. the offense will be better....probably much better....than last year's. the defense won't be as good, but not bad enough that they won't be able to compete in the SEC.
 
#33
#33
jakez4ut said:
FL's offense this season will hardly look like it did last year, just like their defense won't resemble last years. the offense will be better....probably much better....than last year's. the defense won't be as good, but not bad enough that they won't be able to compete in the SEC.
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Florida's defensive front 7 was one of the best in college football. There is no way they can replace all those guys at once. I never said they couldn't compete in the SEC, but to limit offenses to what they did last year is out of the question.

UF's offense will only be marginally better.
 
#34
#34
justingroves said:
You don't lose 9 starters and be "fine". There will be a significant dropoff there. That's going to hurt UF because their offense hasn't really lit up any SEC teams. Timmy is not going to make that offense any better his first year running it than Leak did.
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Ohio State was fine.

And yes, Florida's offense will be better than it was last year.
 
#35
#35
tvolsfan said:
Ohio State was fine.

And yes, Florida's offense will be better than it was last year.
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Florida's offense will probably score on every drive. Rumor has it whenever Tebow looks at the scoreboard, 7 points is automatically added.
 
#37
#37
CajunDawg said:
Florida's offense will probably score on every drive. Rumor has it whenever Tebow looks at the scoreboard, 7 points is automatically added.
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Geez! Last post before mine and I still didn't even notice. You beat me to the punch. It looks like tvolsfan beat us both, however.
 
#38
#38
Bleh, this article blows chunks. Everybody knows the Cats will make some noise this year. This guy probably read the "season preview" for the past 10 years, and just copied it for this piece of worthless trash.

:stop:
 
#40
#40
We have a better team than the Dawgs. Stafford can burn them perfectly every time- they still don't have the wide out talent to maximize his abilities. We stop the run, we stop the dawgs.
 
#41
#41
SWIL said:
We have a better team than the Dawgs. Stafford can burn them perfectly every time- they still don't have the wide out talent to maximize his abilities. We stop the run, we stop the dawgs.
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UGA hasn't had super Wide-Out talent since the mid 90's
 
#42
#42
Quoting Chris Low about the Gator question marks is like quoting a staff writer for the Gainesville Sun about how the Vols have problems. Give me a break.
 
#43
#43
tvolsfan said:
Ohio State was fine.

And yes, Florida's offense will be better than it was last year.
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Ohio State's D made Florida offense look all-world. Ohio State only replaced 7 starters to begin with.

Anyways, I laugh at everyone that thinks Timmy Tebow is some football god that will automatically make Florida's offense an elite one.
 
#44
#44
justingroves said:
Ohio State's D made Florida offense look all-world. Ohio State only replaced 7 starters to begin with.

Anyways, I laugh at everyone that thinks Timmy Tebow is some football god that will automatically make Florida's offense an elite one.
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I agree with you that there is some mystery here as Tebow did not run the offense for an entire game, much less an entire season. So, there is always the chance he'll fold up like a cheap tent or that he will be confused by coverages or make mistakes, etc.

But as of this moment in time, he has done nothing but live up to or exceed every expectation. Until we see otherwise, us Gator fans are optimistic about him and the rest of the team and it seems reasonable to be so at this point. Might we be disappointed? Surer. But don't be surprised that right now we have very high expectations.
 
#45
#45
"There is no sustaining," Meyer said. "If you're sustaining, you're losing. You're going backward. We're building. We're growing. We're moving. We're not sitting back and figuring out how to enjoy this. We're trying to figure how to build upon it. That's a hell of a task."
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That statement right there clearly demonstrates the difference between CPF and CUM. After 1998, the Vols took and extended victory lap, followed by a vacation from which they never really returned. UF will probably be back in a BCS game in 2008.
 
#46
#46
VolunteerHillbilly said:
That statement right there clearly demonstrates the difference between CPF and CUM. After 1998, the Vols took and extended victory lap, followed by a vacation from which they never really returned. UF will probably be back in a BCS game in 2008.
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It is definitely the right attitude. Meyer understands that there is no resting on laurels in this business. It is definitely a what have you done for me lately kind of a world.
 
#47
#47
lawgator1 said:
I agree with you that there is some mystery here as Tebow did not run the offense for an entire game, much less an entire season. So, there is always the chance he'll fold up like a cheap tent or that he will be confused by coverages or make mistakes, etc.

But as of this moment in time, he has done nothing but live up to or exceed every expectation. Until we see otherwise, us Gator fans are optimistic about him and the rest of the team and it seems reasonable to be so at this point. Might we be disappointed? Surer. But don't be surprised that right now we have very high expectations.
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I expect Gator fans to be excited. It's Vol fans on here that automatically expect UF to ring up 50 points on offense because Timmy is their QB is what really makes me sick.
 
#48
#48
justingroves said:
I expect Gator fans to be excited. It's Vol fans on here that automatically expect UF to ring up 50 points on offense because Timmy is their QB is what really makes me sick.
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Why? It is indicative of two things. One, they realize that being a UT fan does not mean checking their objectivity at the door. If they se talent and a good team, they feel free to say so. Second, it really is as much dissatisfaction with UT's progress as anything else. And of course they are entitled to complain about that if they feel things are not going the way they want them to.

That's what being a fan is all about. Taking credit for success and complaining about failure.
 
#49
#49
lawgator1 said:
Why? It is indicative of two things. One, they realize that being a UT fan does not mean checking their objectivity at the door. If they se talent and a good team, they feel free to say so. Second, it really is as much dissatisfaction with UT's progress as anything else. And of course they are entitled to complain about that if they feel things are not going the way they want them to.

That's what being a fan is all about. Taking credit for success and complaining about failure.
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Florida's offense wasn't very good last year. At all. You should be the first to admit it. LSU outgained UF and somehow Russell fumbled the game away and Auburn did not score an offensive TD and still beat UF. Hell, UT had -11 yards rushing and only lost by 1 point.


Replacing a 4 year starter at QB very rarely makes an offense better is my point, regardless of if Jesus himself, Timmy Tebow, is doing it.
 
#50
#50
justingroves said:
Florida's offense wasn't very good last year. At all. You should be the first to admit it. LSU outgained UF and somehow Russell fumbled the game away and Auburn did not score an offensive TD and still beat UF. Hell, UT had -11 yards rushing and only lost by 1 point.


Replacing a 4 year starter at QB very rarely makes an offense better is my point, regardless of if Jesus himself, Timmy Tebow, is doing it.
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I agree that Florida's offense was weak last year. It was barely adequate to get the job done in several games and the defense was far and away the strength of the team.

And ordinarily I would agree with you that replacing your QB the very next year spells trouble. but this is not the ordinary situation.

First, the offenssive line went into last year with about 3 college snaps between them. They are back this year with much more experience and eduation in the Meyer scheme.

Second, with the possible exception of a standard running back, the skill positions at Florida are even better this year than last year. Speed and talent all over the place. As Meyer has said, there's no shortage of play-makers on this offense.

Third, you forget that Tebow had over 80 plays last year. That's a lot of experience for a true freshman to get and he has had the off-season to work hard and to get into the Meyer system. Every indication is that, as far as the spread-option is concerned, he has much more ability and is a natural fit for it, way over Leak.
 
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