SEC-Big Ten scheduling alliance

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Frankly?

I don't give a solid damn about playing any of the stupid Yankee schools.

The SEC became what it is because all those arrogant "AAU accredited" northern schools looked down their haughty noses at all of us. They mocked our schools and our region for generations, and we took that mockery and shoved it right down their snobby football throats.

Every inch we give those stuck up asses grates on me. I dislike seeing the SEC team up with them. Setting aside historic rivalries and regional traditions for the sake of "another big name game." It's one of the most glaring reminders of just how much of the experience has been carved up and sold to indifferent buyers who couldn't care one bit less about history or how we got here. Only what they can take out of it.
We didn’t add Texas and Oklahoma for the SEC to take a step back in our dominance of college football. Partner up with the ACC and Notre Dame if we want to prop up another conference. Black ball the Big 10 until they strip Michigan of that fake championship and make them pay compensations to all the schools it harmed.
 
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This was an issue discussed at the SEC spring meetings this week. First off, are you in favor of a "scheduling alliance" between the two conferences? And second, if this were to happen at some point, which teams would you like the see Tennessee play?

Who is their equivalent of Vandy?
 
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The Big 10 does not play non-conference games after September. Wonder if all of these games would be played in September or spread out throughout the season
 
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This was an issue discussed at the SEC spring meetings this week. First off, are you in favor of a "scheduling alliance" between the two conferences? And second, if this were to happen at some point, which teams would you like the see Tennessee play?


Ehh, I don't need em. I'd rather the SEC breakaway and do its own thing than dignify that top heavy conference full of wannabes
 
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Anyone with a brain can see that it’s just a matter of time the Big Ten and SEC form a super conference and break away like the AFC/NFC.

A few schools will be offered like ND or maybe Clemson to join and the rest will form their own secondary conference. The ACC is toast.

I give it 10 years max.
 
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I hope it’s done by the previous seasons record.

This way our top teams play their tops teams and so on.
 
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Anyone with a brain can see that it’s just a matter of time the Big Ten and SEC form a super conference and break away like the AFC/NFC.

A few schools will be offered like ND or maybe Clemson to join and the rest will form their own secondary conference. The ACC is toast.

I give it 10 years max.
I’m tired of watching you people beat this dead horse. No one has made a convincing argument as to how conferences break up the NCAA while maintaining the sports’ popularity.

The fans are the revenue and they aren’t bound to keep throwing their hard earned money at a bunch of teenagers and coaches who can’t figure out how to decide a fair way to play for a trophy. The NBA, NFL, and MLB have been in decline for 2 decades and the only thing keeping their profits “growing” is the ever increasing tv subscriptions, along with astronomical inflation that has endangered the US dollar. As the Boomers and Gen X age, there will be fewer people who can afford season tickets and who give a flying **** about paying tv networks a percentage of their income. That is the obvious reason as to why most people arguing on here and every sports show around are middle aged to elderly.
 
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Quite obviously this is the beginning of the end. Anyone who doesn’t see that this is the groundwork for the eventual breakaway and super league is, at best, naive, and at worst outright delusional.

That said, nothing I can do about it as a fan, and the idea of being able to invite my family up in Michigan for a game versus the Wolverines at Neyland sounds pretty great. And I’d love to see us play Oregon again. Wouldn’t mind getting revenge against Rutgers for 1979 as well.
 
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I’m tired of watching you people beat this dead horse. No one has made a convincing argument as to how conferences break up the NCAA while maintaining the sports’ popularity.

The fans are the revenue and they aren’t bound to keep throwing their hard earned money at a bunch of teenagers and coaches who can’t figure out how to decide a fair way to play for a trophy. The NBA, NFL, and MLB have been in decline for 2 decades and the only thing keeping their profits “growing” is the ever increasing tv subscriptions, along with astronomical inflation that has endangered the US dollar. As the Boomers and Gen X age, there will be fewer people who can afford season tickets and who give a flying **** about paying tv networks a percentage of their income. That is the obvious reason as to why most people arguing on here and every sports show around are middle aged to elderly.
Your first mistake here is thinking that the suits and networks are thinking about anything other than the money they’ll make now lol. They couldn’t care less about any of the problems you’re bringing up because they are only looking at the immediate term.

That’s why this runaway train isn’t stopping any soon. I thought everybody knew that these guys can’t see past the ends of their own noses?
 
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I’m tired of watching you people beat this dead horse. No one has made a convincing argument as to how conferences break up the NCAA while maintaining the sports’ popularity.

The fans are the revenue and they aren’t bound to keep throwing their hard earned money at a bunch of teenagers and coaches who can’t figure out how to decide a fair way to play for a trophy. The NBA, NFL, and MLB have been in decline for 2 decades and the only thing keeping their profits “growing” is the ever increasing tv subscriptions, along with astronomical inflation that has endangered the US dollar. As the Boomers and Gen X age, there will be fewer people who can afford season tickets and who give a flying **** about paying tv networks a percentage of their income. That is the obvious reason as to why most people arguing on here and every sports show around are middle aged to elderly.

How many current die hard fans in the big ten and sec are gonna stop watching because they break away and leave teams like nc state and byu and wake forest in the dust?

And yea I’m Gen X which means I’m old enough to see how this is going. Same way the NBA formed and NFL. Certain teams got picked and some got left out. It’s just life.

Just wait till the schools break away completely from college and are now just state controlled entities. You’re gonna love that.
 
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UT VS Michigan
UGA vs Ohio State
Alabama vs Oregon
Texas vs Penn State
USC vs USC jr
Texas A&M vs Washington
Vandy vs Purple Vandy
Indiana vs Kentucky
Illinois vs Midzou
Florida vs Wisconsin

Just off the top of my head
 
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How many current die hard fans in the big ten and sec are gonna stop watching because they break away and leave teams like nc state and byu and wake forest in the dust?

And yea I’m Gen X which means I’m old enough to see how this is going. Same way the NBA formed and NFL. Certain teams got picked and some got left out. It’s just life.

Just wait till the schools break away completely from college and are now just state controlled entities. You’re gonna love that.
College teams have never broken away to start a professional league. What you are describing is the NFL and NBA already.

Currently, the NBA has already attempted to compete with college and the G league is not nearly as successful as college. Do you love the G league model? Because every team pretends to belong to a city or state. Nobody cares about it because no G league team has alumni fans. Just wait until enough fools believe it’s a good idea to break away from their fans.
 
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The Big 10 does not play non-conference games after September. Wonder if all of these games would be played in September or spread out throughout the season
They need to make a big deal out of it if they’re going to do it. I’d do it over a 2 week period in September, play half the games 1 weekend and the other half the following. Have one of the marquee games be a home game for Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon or Penn State vs a high level SEC team and then do the same for a high level SEC team vs a comparable B1G team the next weekend.
 
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College teams have never broken away to start a professional league. What you are describing is the NFL and NBA already.

Currently, the NBA has already attempted to compete with college and the G league is not nearly as successful as college. Do you love the G league model? Because every team pretends to belong to a city or state. Nobody cares about it because no G league team has alumni fans. Just wait until enough fools believe it’s a good idea to break away from their fans.
The Alston Supreme Court ruling basically referred to college athletes as employees of the school/NCAA. The ONLY reason they didn't declare the players employees was because that part of Alston was not appealed to them. They said as much in their opinion.

Colleges haven't broken away previously because Alston wasn't in place. Now that it is legal precedent, the NCAA hasn't won a case to allow them to control the sport and it's just a matter of time until a case reaches the Supreme Court to definitely put the "student athlete" to rest for good and give rise to the "athlete employee."

There are numerous legal review opinions stating that the NCAA is washed up as a ruling body for college sports. Alston paved the way for EVERYTHING you've seen so far: NIL, multiple transfers, revenue sharing (coming soon via the House settlement,) etc.

When the Supreme Court told the NCAA that their complete business model was in violation of Antitrust Law, that was the beginning of the end. It's not a matter of IF schools will try to form a legal, likely professional, sports organization to replace the NCAA, it's WHEN.
 
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What purpose would this serve other than to ensure teams in these conferences have many losses?

The conferences are already so large that they can barely play half the teams in the conferences.
 
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What purpose would this serve other than to ensure teams in these conferences have many losses?

The conferences are already so large that they can barely play half the teams in the conferences.
Because beating teams like ETSU proves nothing to fans, nothing to the CFP Committee, nothing to anyone.

Competition matters. If you're just enamored of wins, go independent and schedule 12 nobodies and go undefeated every year. Would that make you the best?

Competition matters.
 
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Because beating teams like ETSU proves nothing to fans, nothing to the CFP Committee, nothing to anyone.

Competition matters. If you're just enamored of wins, go independent and schedule 12 nobodies and go undefeated every year. Would that make you the best?

Competition matters.

And taking another loss also does not impress the CFP committee. The risk is that the B1G wins most of the round robin games and then the championship series is packed with those teams and 1, maybe 2 SEC teams. Yes, the reverse could happen. But there are some games that should be part of a championship run verses regular season.

If we need more good games, then add new games against other SEC schools - heck just have all 12 be against other SEC opponents.

And let the B1G schedule all 12 in their league.
 
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This only feeds into the never-ending narrative of which conference is better. Those who are pushing this would love nothing more for there to be a round-robin so the SEC can go 0-16 and support their narrative.

That is what the CFP games should be for - best from the conferences play each other.
 
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And honestly give it a few years - unless something happens with NIL - we may be down to a handful of schools that still have football.
 
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