SEC basketball scheduling is rigged and a joke

[GBO97]

Some of y’all are missing the point. The key here isn’t amount of rest in and of itself, it’s the DIFFERENCE between the amount of rest that you have and that your opponent has.

At face value, whether you play on Tuesday or Wednesday doesn’t matter, because either you’ll have 3 days and 4 days or you’ll have 4 days and 3 days. And yes, in the SEC and NCAA tournaments, you play with minimal rest between games, but (except for byes in the conf tourney which are earned) the difference between games is always the same for both teams.

If both teams play on back to back nights, it’s a wash and it doesn’t matter. Same if both teams have a full week of rest. This is the case for the midweek games. Since both teams last played on Saturday, it’s impossible for either team to have a rest advantage for the midweek game, whether it’s played on Tuesday or Wednesday.

The reason Tuesday games are an advantage is that you can possibly have more time than the opponent to prepare for the Saturday game. Conversely, the Wednesday game puts you at a disadvantage if the opponent plays on Tuesday. Because of this, Kentucky gets 1 MORE day than their Saturday opponent to rest and prepare literally every single week. And even if UK is always on Tuesday for TV purposes, how does that explain their opponent always being on Wednesday? The whole thing seems very intentional.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Tuesday home teams should be the road teams on Saturdays.

 

[volmainia2]

I'm really looking forward to (actually praying for) a time when I can get through an entire week without hearing about "rigged" this or that, "fake news" and conspiracies. Given today's political climate I may have to wait a long time.

There was a time---a simpler, happier time---when you just lived with the way the cookie crumbled, coped with it and went on.

It is pretty well established that the SEC had virtually nothing to do with this disparity. It was dictated largely by the networks to avoid broadcast competition with ACC games and to feed TV markets the SEC games they are most likely to watch. There is no man dressed like a Kentucky Colonel behind a curtain.

then why doesnt Kent have any of the wen games I repeat NONE

 

[TennPhan]

It’s no secret that for a Saturday game, it’s better to have played the midweek game on a Tuesday than on a Wednesday. Whereas no one has a rest advantage during the midweek game itself (because everyone’s last game played is Saturday) it often happens where a team has a one day advantage on Saturday because of the midweek schedule. Here’s a breakdown of number of Wednesday conference games by SEC teams, this may seem a little suspicious:

6: Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Vanderbilt
5: LSU, Ole Miss
4: Arkansas, Missouri
3: Alabama, S Carolina, Tennessee, Texas A&M
2: Miss State

0: Kentucky

Furthermore, out of UK’s 8 Saturday games vs. SEC teams that have played midweek, ALL 8 of their opponents (including UT x2) played Wednesday while they always play Tuesday. Every last one.

Thoughts?

I made reference to this after our last game with Kentucky, but was told it really is a non factor.

 

[dovervolz]

Tha

I guess we are going to cry about having to play every other day come tournament time? I personally think this prepares you better for March. Everyone is injured and tired this time of year.

The deal about tournament time and having to play every other day just proves the point of the argument. EVERY team is playing every other, it's a fair playing field. Your opponent doesn't get that extra day of rest and preparation like kensucky does all season long

 

[GUNTERSVOL]

I'm really looking forward to (actually praying for) a time when I can get through an entire week without hearing about "rigged" this or that, "fake news" and conspiracies. Given today's political climate I may have to wait a long time.

There was a time---a simpler, happier time---when you just lived with the way the cookie crumbled, coped with it and went on.

It is pretty well established that the SEC had virtually nothing to do with this disparity. It was dictated largely by the networks to avoid broadcast competition with ACC games and to feed TV markets the SEC games they are most likely to watch. There is no man dressed like a Kentucky Colonel behind a curtain.

The league had everything to do with this and should never ever sacrifice equity in scheduling for any reason. The SEC needs to have a fair and balanced schedule for every team every year as an objective. I will not go through War and Peace AGAIN but net net only 45% of games are on Wed. So how in the heck can Kentucky get 100 percent of their opponents and NEVER ONCE have a game with either team out of the 55% pool in a given week? Both ESPN and CBS pay big bucks.... Contracts for this season were signed long ago I bet.... Integrity is terrible thing to waste.... even for big bucks.

 

[livefaith]

It's almost like the SEC is more concered with maximizing TV money than fair scheduling....

Naaah. That's crazy talk. The SEC?!?

 

[Bash]

I'm really looking forward to (actually praying for) a time when I can get through an entire week without hearing about "rigged" this or that, "fake news" and conspiracies. Given today's political climate I may have to wait a long time.

There was a time---a simpler, happier time---when you just lived with the way the cookie crumbled, coped with it and went on.

It is pretty well established that the SEC had virtually nothing to do with this disparity. It was dictated largely by the networks to avoid broadcast competition with ACC games and to feed TV markets the SEC games they are most likely to watch. There is no man dressed like a Kentucky Colonel behind a curtain.

Ditto. x 1000. There are a lot of scientific studies about people who are immersed in conspiracy theories. Many psychologists and psychiatrists suggest it's a mental disorder with the root cause being low IQ, low ambition, low income and a feeling of powerlessness or lack of control. CTs are typically low achievers with little or no education beyond high school. The world wide web sadly has given them a voice.

 

[VolGee4]

Funny how no one mentions that everybody else in the league gets an extra day of rest after Saturday, but Kentucky only gets two days of rest....

The teams that play UK every Tuesday get the same amount of rest as UK does.

 

[VolGee4]

Ditto. x 1000. There are a lot of scientific studies about people who are immersed in conspiracy theories. Many psychologists and psychiatrists suggest it's a mental disorder with the root cause being low IQ, low ambition, low income and a feeling of powerlessness or lack of control. CTs are typically low achievers with little or no education beyond high school. The world wide web sadly has given them a voice.

Lol. Don’t think it’s really a conspiracy theory. Just a pattern that someone saw that seems to favor the blue blood, and I doubt it’s a coincidence.

 

[bigdaddy]

Look. The SEC absolutely knew this happened as the schedule was approved long before January. So either they are ignorant or approve inequity in the schedule to allow money makers to make money. Not a conspiracy theory but fact.

 

[bigdaddy]

Ditto. x 1000. There are a lot of scientific studies about people who are immersed in conspiracy theories. Many psychologists and psychiatrists suggest it's a mental disorder with the root cause being low IQ, low ambition, low income and a feeling of powerlessness or lack of control. CTs are typically low achievers with little or no education beyond high school. The world wide web sadly has given them a voice.

I would like to see these studies and results.

 

[bigdaddy]

Lol. Don’t think it’s really a conspiracy theory. Just a pattern that someone saw that seems to favor the blue blood, and I doubt it’s a coincidence.

Exactly, no one is saying conspiracy just pointing out fact. It’s an advantage. Nothing more nothing less.

 

[Bash]

I would like to see these studies and results.

This is one. There are many. If you really want to see them all, just say.

"Someone is pulling the strings: hypersensitive agency detection and belief in conspiracy theories" Karen M. Douglas,Robbie M. Sutton,Mitchell J. Callan,Rael J. Dawtry &Annelie J. Harvey, Abstract: "We hypothesised that belief in conspiracy theories would be predicted by the general tendency to attribute agency and intentionality where it is unlikely to exist. We further hypothesised that this tendency would explain the relationship between education level and belief in conspiracy theories, where lower levels of education have been found to be associated with higher conspiracy belief. In Study 1 (N = 202) participants were more likely to agree with a range of conspiracy theories if they also tended to attribute intentionality and agency to inanimate objects. As predicted, this relationship accounted for the link between education level and belief in conspiracy theories. We replicated this finding in Study 2 (N = 330), whilst taking into account beliefs in paranormal phenomena. These results suggest that education may undermine the reasoning processes and assumptions that are reflected in conspiracy belief."

 

[ShoNuff]

It's called piss poor management on our side minus Barnes

 

[PulaskiVolFan]

I would like to see these studies and results.

There's a ton of them out there if you just look them up. I've always thought conspiracy theorists were simple minded and now multiple studies are starting to support that train of thought.

 

[PulaskiVolFan]

Tha

The deal about tournament time and having to play every other day just proves the point of the argument. EVERY team is playing every other, it's a fair playing field. Your opponent doesn't get that extra day of rest and preparation like kensucky does all season long

Thus it's probably not helping Ky prepare as they are familiar to the extra days rest and the tournament will be different than the normal routine there bodies and minds are used to.

 

[LampVol]

For what it's worth,This has been an issue for many years. Before the SEC network, one SEC game was played on Thursday. Kevin Stallings, then Vanderbilt coach, complained to the SEC and on Nashville TV that Vanderbilt had to play on Thursday night and go to Kentucky on Saturday and Kentucky had no Thursday night games.

 

[bigdaddy]

This is one. There are many. If you really want to see them all, just say.

"Someone is pulling the strings: hypersensitive agency detection and belief in conspiracy theories" Karen M. Douglas,Robbie M. Sutton,Mitchell J. Callan,Rael J. Dawtry &Annelie J. Harvey, Abstract: "We hypothesised that belief in conspiracy theories would be predicted by the general tendency to attribute agency and intentionality where it is unlikely to exist. We further hypothesised that this tendency would explain the relationship between education level and belief in conspiracy theories, where lower levels of education have been found to be associated with higher conspiracy belief. In Study 1 (N = 202) participants were more likely to agree with a range of conspiracy theories if they also tended to attribute intentionality and agency to inanimate objects. As predicted, this relationship accounted for the link between education level and belief in conspiracy theories. We replicated this finding in Study 2 (N = 330), whilst taking into account beliefs in paranormal phenomena. These results suggest that education may undermine the reasoning processes and assumptions that are reflected in conspiracy belief."

Those numbers are a little low for sample participants but an interesting conclusion none the least. All that being said, I don’t see anyone on this thread claiming conspiracy theory, just stating it’s an obvious advantage for KY to only play on Tuesday and Sat and everyone of those sat opponents played on Wednesday. I add that the SEC knew it and went ahead with it for cash or is just plain ignorant. But go ahead, call all our fans dumb, uneducated hillbillies with your backhanded post.

 

[Bash]

Those numbers are a little low for sample participants but an interesting conclusion none the least. All that being said, I don’t see anyone on this thread claiming conspiracy theory, just stating it’s an obvious advantage for KY to only play on Tuesday and Sat and everyone of those sat opponents played on Wednesday. I add that the SEC knew it and went ahead with it for cash or is just plain ignorant. But go ahead, call all our fans dumb, uneducated hillbillies with your backhanded post.

At least 2 of us have claimed the OP is a CT. Because it is. Another one:

American Conspiracy Theories, J Uscinski, J. Parent “Conspiracy theories are for losers,” says Joseph Uscinski, associate professor of political science at the University of Miami and co-author of the 2014 book stresses that he uses the term literally, not pejoratively. “People who have lost an election, money or influence look for something to explain that loss.” “In this case, conspiracy theories can be like emotional poultices,” says Joseph Parent, a professor of political science at Notre Dame University and Uscinski’s co-author. “You don’t want to blame yourself for things you may lack, so you blame anonymous forces instead.”

 

[bobkitten]

It’s no secret that for a Saturday game, it’s better to have played the midweek game on a Tuesday than on a Wednesday. Whereas no one has a rest advantage during the midweek game itself (because everyone’s last game played is Saturday) it often happens where a team has a one day advantage on Saturday because of the midweek schedule. Here’s a breakdown of number of Wednesday conference games by SEC teams, this may seem a little suspicious:

6: Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Vanderbilt
5: LSU, Ole Miss
4: Arkansas, Missouri
3: Alabama, S Carolina, Tennessee, Texas A&M
2: Miss State

0: Kentucky

Furthermore, out of UK’s 8 Saturday games vs. SEC teams that have played midweek, ALL 8 of their opponents (including UT x2) played Wednesday while they always play Tuesday. Every last one.

Thoughts?

Doesn't seem to be a coincidence.

 

[bobkitten]

then why doesnt Kent have any of the wen games I repeat NONE

Very crumbly cookie for their opponents!

 

[bigdaddy]

At least 2 of us have claimed the OP is a CT. Because it is. Another one:

American Conspiracy Theories, J Uscinski, J. Parent “Conspiracy theories are for losers,” says Joseph Uscinski, associate professor of political science at the University of Miami and co-author of the 2014 book stresses that he uses the term literally, not pejoratively. “People who have lost an election, money or influence look for something to explain that loss.” “In this case, conspiracy theories can be like emotional poultices,” says Joseph Parent, a professor of political science at Notre Dame University and Uscinski’s co-author. “You don’t want to blame yourself for things you may lack, so you blame anonymous forces instead.”

Look, nothing about his post is CT in any nature. It’s all fact. You are trolling him and other fans in this thread by calling them dumb.

 

[PulaskiVolFan]

It’s no secret that for a Saturday game, it’s better to have played the midweek game on a Tuesday than on a Wednesday. Whereas no one has a rest advantage during the midweek game itself (because everyone’s last game played is Saturday) it often happens where a team has a one day advantage on Saturday because of the midweek schedule. Here’s a breakdown of number of Wednesday conference games by SEC teams, this may seem a little suspicious:

6: Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Vanderbilt
5: LSU, Ole Miss
4: Arkansas, Missouri
3: Alabama, S Carolina, Tennessee, Texas A&M
2: Miss State

0: Kentucky

Furthermore, out of UK’s 8 Saturday games vs. SEC teams that have played midweek, ALL 8 of their opponents (including UT x2) played Wednesday while they always play Tuesday. Every last one.

Thoughts?

How did this scheduling conspiracy theory work out?

 

[Bash]

Look, nothing about his post is CT in any nature. It’s all fact. You are trolling him and other fans in this thread by calling them dumb.

Everything about this OP is a CT, and I'm not doing anything other than posting references to very good empirical studies. And I'm not the first nor the only one who thinks this is CT BS. If you don't like the science take it up with the scientists. His 'argument' was not only de-constructed; it was destroyed.