SEC adding new “Delay of Game - Defense” penalty

[TrueOrange]

If the defensive line shifts and it causes an offensive lineman to jump, it’s now a defensive penalty.



This one doesn’t seem terribly well thought out. There’s not really any consequence/prevention for an offensive lineman to jump anytime the defensive line shifts in either direction pre-snap.

Edit: Two follow ups:

 

[RDU VOL#14]

If the defensive line shifts and it causes an offensive lineman to jump, it’s now a defensive penalty.



This one doesn’t seem terribly well thought out. There’s not really any consequence/prevention for an offensive lineman to jump anytime the defensive line shifts in either direction pre-snap.

Kirby is punching air right now

 

[ButchPlz]

Pretty sure the SEC doesn't get to add rules like that.

 

[TrueOrange]

Two follow ups:

 

[ButchPlz]

If the defensive line shifts and it causes an offensive lineman to jump, it’s now a defensive penalty.



This one doesn’t seem terribly well thought out. There’s not really any consequence/prevention for an offensive lineman to jump anytime the defensive line shifts in either direction pre-snap.

If I am an OL and see a DL move at all I'm jumping.

 

[TrueOrange]

Pretty sure the SEC doesn't get to add rules like that.

It’s likely just enforceable in conference play. (Ie, it can’t be calleable when Virginia Tech plays South Carolina, but it would be when, say, South Carolina and Texas A&M play).

 

[TAF]

Dumb...defense should be able to move. Offense is able to motion, but O-Line should be Set!

 

[Skooter]

Kirby is punching air right now

Yes he is. This is the Kirby rule as his aggressive DL shifts had the sole intent on making the OL jump. They also made noises as they shifted and moved their arms/hands up. It was always cheap to me and the intent was obvious.

 

[Nico ee-ah-MAH-LAY-ah-va]

Finally. Kirby pulling that same stunt over and over again was so tiring.

 

[MontyPython]

If I am an OL and see a DL move at all I'm jumping.

Exactly. So anytime a D lineman starts to move or shift, then the O lineman moves and the call goes against the D lineman.

Net result: The new rule effectively prohibits a D lineman from shifting, stemming or moving at all... right? They say that's not the rule technically, but as a practical matter, it is.

Am I missing something?

 

[zjcvols]

If I am an OL and see a DL move at all I'm jumping.

I never, ever understood why a DL shifting 4 guys at one time on a predetermined motion or snap count was legal. I don't mind moving guys around or a guy coming in on a blitz, but to me that is signaling the snap of the ball, which a center can't do.

 

[KittenVol]

Defensive line shifts that result in a false start would still be a penalty on the offense. This is addressing a situation where a d lineman flinches to simulate the start of a play. That would be a penalty on the defense, basically a defensive false start. Disregard the original tweet by Wyatt Fulton, he’s just a dumb bammer who doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

 

[a vol n tears]

Never played lineman in football, so I can’t put myself in their position. But the offense knows the snap count, and should be disciplined to hold until the ball is snapped. That’s why I got so agitated by all the pre snap penalties for the past 2 years.
However watching the coaches reaction to offensive movement, they don’t seem to get as upset as me, so apparently they understand the mental part of trying to beat the defense to the punch, much better than me.

 

[DeerPark12]

It’s likely just enforceable in conference play. (Ie, it can’t be calleable when Virginia Tech plays South Carolina, but it would be when, say, South Carolina and Texas A&M play).

No, the playing rules are the same for every game. The SEC cannot unilaterally change the NCAA rules of play, nor add or subtract from them.

The NCAA did add this rule at the recommendation of the rules committee back in January for this upcoming year. The SEC doesn’t have anything to do with it, other than the SEC coordinator of officials explaining all of the NCAA rules changes and updated interpretations at media days, as he does every year.

 

[njvols]

Yes he is. This is the Kirby rule as his aggressive DL shifts had the sole intent on making the OL jump. They also made noises as they shifted and moved their arms/hands up. It was always cheap to me and the intent was obvious.

100%

 

[Bearkat_Vol]

Another intent of the D-Line shifting is disrupting OL blocking assignments.

 

[allvols4life]

If the defensive line shifts and it causes an offensive lineman to jump, it’s now a defensive penalty.



This one doesn’t seem terribly well thought out. There’s not really any consequence/prevention for an offensive lineman to jump anytime the defensive line shifts in either direction pre-snap.

Edit: Two follow ups:

So stupid

 

[Woodlawn VOL]

Shouldn’t have even made this rule in my opinion.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

No, the playing rules are the same for every game. The SEC cannot unilaterally change the NCAA rules of play, nor add or subtract from them.

The NCAA did add this rule at the recommendation of the rules committee back in January for this upcoming year. The SEC doesn’t have anything to do with it, other than the SEC coordinator of officials explaining all of the NCAA rules changes and updated interpretations at media days, as he does every year.

Thanks. I know you're trustworthy

 

[IndianaVol]

So if you look at the video, the 2 guys to the left both shift in, but do not encroach on the neutral zone or make a move towards the LOS.
They simply shift straight over to the interior of the line.

Third guy though makes a gesture with his left arm and comes up slightly toward the LOS like he's going to move, that in turn causes the OL across to move in response resulting in an offsides against the Offense.
Under the new rule, that movement by the 3rd guy is a delay of game against the Defense now.

 

[LegionnaireOfTheMiserable]

Finally. Kirby pulling that same stunt over and over again was so tiring.

Until we get called for it on a slight movement from a D lineman to turn a 3rd and 12 to 3rd and 7 on the eventual touchdown drive to beat us.

 

[Willy P]

Yes he is. This is the Kirby rule as his aggressive DL shifts had the sole intent on making the OL jump. They also made noises as they shifted and moved their arms/hands up. It was always cheap to me and the intent was obvious.

First thing I thought of as well. Everyone knows they do it but it still works often enough.

 

[HuntlandVolinColo]

There were a few teams last season that gave us fits with shifting DL. I think UGA and Arky in particular.

On the flip side, I think we gave Oklahoma and NCState in particular fits with it.

 

[driscokid]

Sounds like just another way to help Vegas cover spreads

 

[vavolfan6]

I think we will have to see what type of discretion the refs when calling a penalty in this situation. I do like the attempt to stop defenses from baiting the opposing offenses into a cheap penalty.