Seattle and the Minimum Wage

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The Pew Center reported in January 2014 that 73% of Americans supported raising the minimum wage from $7.25 to $10.10 per hour and indexing it to inflation. By party, 53% of Republicans and 90% of Democrats favored this action.
 
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G0 BIG 0RANGE said:
The Pew Center reported in January 2014 that 73% of Americans supported raising the minimum wage from $7.25 to $10.10 per hour and indexing it to inflation. By party, 53% of Republicans and 90% of Democrats favored this action.
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Doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.
 
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governmentmule said:
so your telling me that the republicans didn't vote a minimum wage hike during election years ?
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That's not what I said, but it is the libtards that are always talking about a "living wage" and now "income equality". Slinging burgers is NOT a career... at least it shouldn't be.
 
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governmentmule said:
that seems to be lost these days,I guess when you get a job frying burgers your suppose to be able to retire from it

what i don't get,is how the people getting the minimum wage increase,think they are getting ahead,all it is going to do is drive up prices and the people making more aren't going to be spending money to keep those jobs going


I'm pretty much on a fixed income and i will tell you,that it flat out sucks,every time they raise it,I have less to spend,going to the grocery store is a night mare for me these days and it is going to just get worse
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Minimum wage means we are going to pay you the least amount because you have zero skills...
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Easiest and laziest thing to do is cutting labor costs... that is what the industry standard is and what they teach in business schools apparently. Some business costs are within the employers control, others (like taxes and regulation) are not in their control.



Minimum wage in 1964 was $1.25... or 5 90% silver quarters. The melt value of those 5 quarters today would be roughly $14. It is not an arbitrary number. It just illustrates how much humanity is being robbed of their labor and wealth by fiat currency and endless central bank money printing.
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Until we stop taking a piss on our currency, this problem isn't going away, no matter which new plan is put in place.
 
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Abe Hoffman said:
In July 2015 Seattle's employment increased by 2,236 jobs. In the past year (thru July), Seattle has added 10,068 jobs.

As of July, Seattle's unemployment rate was 3.7 percent, well below the national rate and below what would be considered full employment.
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Apples and oranges. The low skilled workers at McD's are not being hired on at tech companies.
 
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Seattle at it again:

Seattle pushes sweeping new rules for worker schedules, employers cry foul | Fox News

You’ve heard the battle cries over paying workers a “living wage.” Now, get ready for the next phase: “Livable schedules.”

On the heels of Seattle passing a controversial $15 minimum wage law, the City Council there is now drafting an ordinance that aims to shift power away from employers when it comes to how workers are scheduled and paid.

“I think there is a sense among some workers that they are being abused,” Seattle City Council member Lorena Gonzalez said.
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Which includes:

A guarantee that workers get at least 11 hours of down time between shifts
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Not unreasonable.

A requirement that workers get schedules a week in advance,
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Not entirely unreasonable. However...

or else be paid time-and-a-half if shifts are added inside that timeframe
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Umm, and then...

A requirement that employers pay employees for a few hours of work not performed if shifts are taken away
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We go full retard.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
None of that is "reasonable".
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I think the 11 hours between shifts can be reasonable depending on the job. If one was working in an area where safety was paramount (construction heavy machinery for example) I wouldn't think it to be entirely unreasonable to provide time in between shifts for rest. However, the Starbucks example pretty much fits your case.

The schedule a week out isn't completely unreasonable.

The rest, well, I agree completely.
 
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Having said that to say this, I will agree with you (before you post it) and others that the .gov really doesn't need to get into the nitty-gritty of employers.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I think the 11 hours between shifts can be reasonable depending on the job. If one was working in an area where safety was paramount (construction heavy machinery for example) I wouldn't think it to be entirely unreasonable to provide time in between shifts for rest. However, the Starbucks example pretty much fits your case.

The schedule a week out isn't completely unreasonable.

The rest, well, I agree completely.
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tumscalcium said:
I can agree with a schedule in advance, but even with that there will be changes. No penalties for changes though. Sheesh.
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The government shouldn't be able to tell private businesses how to schedule. If the employees don't like it, they can seek employment elsewhere.

I thought you guys where for less/smaller government?
 
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PKT_VOL said:
The government shouldn't be able to tell private businesses how to schedule. If the employees don't like it, they can seek employment elsewhere.

I thought you guys where for less/smaller government?
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(see post above)
 
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PKT_VOL said:
The government shouldn't be able to tell private businesses how to schedule. If the employees don't like it, they can seek employment elsewhere.

I thought you guys where for less/smaller government?
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Good points. I was thinking about business and not government. I hit it early today. Carry on good sir.



I should point out, I'm from Washington (Spokane), Seattle is an awesome city but by god the people are politically retarded.
 
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My advice to the employers is to find better employees. If they don't like it, they're free to seek other options for employment. Period.

You work the schedule you're scheduled to work. If not, someone else will. But let's get government involved instead. Good grief.

In the steel industry, we work plenty of unscheduled 16-18 hour shifts. Deal with it.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
My advice to the employers is to find better employees. If they don't like it, they're free to seek other options for employment. Period.

You work the schedule you're scheduled to work. If not, someone else will. But let's get government involved instead. Good grief.

In the steel industry, we work plenty of unscheduled 16-18 hour shifts. Deal with it.
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We have more people in our labor force today that want high wages without rworking at all... It's called welfare
 
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so an employer gets penalized because a ****ty employees calls in sick on his shift and has to scramble to get someone to cover their shift?
 
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I'm OK with cities trying different things. Maybe even states. Not the feds though.
 
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Are they saying an hourly employee must have 11 hours between shifts? I would be mad if I was an employee.
 
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Seattle should go ahead and put rules in about when customers can demand things. Everyone wants weekends off so people shouldn't be able to go to restaurants on weekends because that means someone has to work. Same for mornings and evenings...
 
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