Scott Frost or Dan Mullen??

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Sandy Ravage said:
Mullen is like 2-32 against top 25 teams and pooped his pants there at the end of that Bama game. Frost has that IT factor, you can tell already without the long resume. Bring me Frost.
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What is Frost's record against top 25 teams? How many top 25 teams does UCF even play? I know they got absolutely roasted last year by Michigan.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
What is Frost's record against top 25 teams? How many top 25 teams does UCF even play? I know they got absolutely roasted last year by Michigan.
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Exactly what happens to the new shiny thing- when they get “figured-out” by top level coaches!

Mullen is proven! I’ll take Mullen’s competitive teams at the highest level of football over Frosts low tier success and lack of experience!
 
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rpeagram said:
Exactly what happens to the new shiny thing- when they get “figured-out” by top level coaches!

Mullen is proven! I’ll take Mullen’s competitive teams at the highest level of football over Frosts low tier success and lack of experience!
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Exactly! People want the "Rock Star" but I'd rather have the guy who's proven that he's a good coach and has won in the toughest conference in the country.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
Exactly! People want the "Rock Star" but I'd rather have the guy who's proven that he's a good coach and has won in the toughest conference in the country.
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Except that he hasn't consistently won against SEC level competition. He's solidly under .500 in the SEC.

I know he would be a better coach than Butch. I just cannot see winner in his resume. He has had nine years to improve the team. Last year he went 6-7 (I think).
 
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Mullen.

Knows how to coach and recruit in the SEC. If he can get the cow bells that close to beating Bama and in the Top 20, imagine what he could do at UT.
 
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HuntsVol_AL said:
Except that he hasn't consistently won against SEC level competition. He's solidly under .500 in the SEC.

I know he would be a better coach than Butch. I just cannot see winner in his resume. He has had nine years to improve the team. Last year he went 6-7 (I think).
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You have to have the insight to look beyond the winning percentage and see where he's at though HuntsVol. Mullen will NEVER recruit the athletes top to bottom at Mississippi State he needs to beat most of the SEC teams, especially in the west. Starkville is a VERY challenging place to recruit blue chip athletes to. Have you ever been to Starkville? Have you ever seen their campus? It's like a community college compared to UT. They have ZERO football tradition there outside of Jackie Sherrill. I'm telling you, put Mullen at UT with our resources and see what he does!

Oh and I guarantee you if TCU were in the SEC West and Gary Patterson had to coach with the exact same athletes he has there currently, he'd be facing the exact same struggles.
 
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jakez4ut said:
nah. That's not exactly the case. Frost has "it". He is younger, he doesn't have a decade as a proven head coach.

No arguments. But he has won at the highest levels at every stop he's made, either as a player or as a coach.

The guy knows what championship level football programs look like....and he's just one of those guys you look at and just know...he gets it. And when he lands at a p5 program like a tn or fl, he's probably going to do very well.
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gtn = going to nebraska
 
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Re: Scott Frost to Nebraska

Nebraska is going to be firing Mike Riley at the end of the season. If you don't believe me, read this article :

Nebraska athletic director Bill Moos says he's sticking with Cornhuskers coach Mike Riley through season

That means the threat of Frost going to Nebraska will not be some Sword of Damocles hanging over the program if we were to hire Frost next month. If he says yes to us, it will mean that he is choosing Tennessee over Nebraska. So it really shouldn't be a factor in our decision on whether we should hire him.
 
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Florida is going to get one or the other, so why even ask? I say neither, we are going after something completely different. I see the words "nfl" in our next coaching stats.
 
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Dudley Smith said:
Re: Scott Frost to Nebraska

Nebraska is going to be firing Mike Riley at the end of the season. If you don't believe me, read this article :

Nebraska athletic director Bill Moos says he's sticking with Cornhuskers coach Mike Riley through season

That means the threat of Frost going to Nebraska will not be some Sword of Damocles hanging over the program if we were to hire Frost next month. If he says yes to us, it will mean that he is choosing Tennessee over Nebraska. So it really shouldn't be a factor in our decision on whether we should hire him.
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it would also mean he likely chose us over FL as well. which is where i think he winds up anyway.

but i'd take him in a heartbeat.
 
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volcop1 said:
gtn = going to nebraska
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i mean, sure, it's possible. i'm just not convinced based on what i've read about him, and his desires for what he considers important in recruiting, that Nebraska offers him all of what he'd be looking for.

i think if he's choosing between NE, FL, and TN....NE is going to be the one left out. the only way he picks NE over the other too is if the alma mater heart strings are a lot stronger than anything i've read has intimated, and that's entirely possible......
 
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Mullen would be our version of Les Miles. Really good but never good enough, and he wouldn’t have a roster of Saban players to win a NC with. He’d lose 2-3 games a year, but one would be to whoever FU hires.
 
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