Scoop on Fulmer from inside UT athletics!

#51
#51
Please say it ain't so! Phillip Fulmer is UT football. This will be a sad day if it does come to pass. He won 75% of his games, bled orange, and has taken UT to the next level. Keeping a program their year in and year out, especially in the SEC is unheard of.

Now, has anyone heard if Gruden is retiring?
 
#53
#53
I posted a thread two weeks ago that supports this "rumor." Max Howell said we would know in two weeks after the bama game. But hell, maybe the deep throat gradass. saw that thread and passed it off to this guy.
 
#54
#54
Please....new rule for threads like this. Either name your "reliable source" (and provide credible, substantiated evidence) or don't post. Makes you look ridiculous. :horse:
 
#55
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I heard from a guy named DJCHRIS that the jock washer, I mean grad assistant, said Fulmer was retiring! No Seriously...He posted it on a message board on the internet.
 
#59
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TheTennesseeTom said:
Now, has anyone heard if Gruden is retiring?
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Have you been watching the Bucs this year? No way is he leaving! I live in Tampa, and a friend of mine knows a guy who is dating a girl who's brother is the toilet scrubber at One Buc Place, his name is Joe ( but the Bucs call him "Joe the Plumber") and Gruden ain't goin' nowhere.
 
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justingroves said:
He's a damn good coach that's won everywhere he's been.

The players enjoy playing for him and respect him a lot.

He's been handcuffed by an OL coach that's not very good and atrocious QB play and a meddling head coach.
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i don't give a rat's behind whether the players like him and find playing for him enjoyable. that, as far as i can tell, isn't an essential ingredient in winning football games.

i could further not give a rat's behind what he did when he was at a third tier toilet football program. i'm a vol fan. i don't care if he took the kansas city chiefs to the super bowl ten years in a row if he can't win games at tennessee!

i'd take cut over him any day.

he has not proven himself a competitor in the SEC arena. period. end of story.
 
#63
#63
And, btw, QB play is his fault. Crompton had the physical tools; it's up to the OC to teach him the mental stuff and obviously Clawson has failed miserably on that.
 
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ksushalovesthevols said:
And, btw, QB play is his fault. Crompton had the physical tools; it's up to the OC to teach him the mental stuff and obviously Clawson has failed miserably on that.
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What about your boy Cut? He had two years with him.

It's hard to teach "mental stuff" to a guy that's not very smart.
 
#65
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ksushalovesthevols said:
i don't give a rat's behind whether the players like him and find playing for him enjoyable. that, as far as i can tell, isn't an essential ingredient in winning football games.

i could further not give a rat's behind what he did when he was at a third tier toilet football program. i'm a vol fan. i don't care if he took the kansas city chiefs to the super bowl ten years in a row if he can't win games at tennessee!

i'd take cut over him any day.

he has not proven himself a competitor in the SEC arena. period. end of story.
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It's a huge part of it. Guys don't play for coaches they don't respect (which is a huge problem for CPF)
 
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ksushalovesthevols said:
i don't give a rat's behind whether the players like him and find playing for him enjoyable. that, as far as i can tell, isn't an essential ingredient in winning football games.
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Not been on many sports teams have you? As long as they're winning players will find a way to ignore their dislike of a coach, but once things start going bad they will just get worse if the players don't like their coach. Just think of Tom Coughlin.
 
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ksushalovesthevols said:
And, btw, QB play is his fault. Crompton had the physical tools; it's up to the OC to teach him the mental stuff and obviously Clawson has failed miserably on that.
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There have been plenty of physical studs who have failed because the have the mental capacity of a wooden post. It usually is exposed when going from college to pro level but it does happen quite a bit.
 
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NochNoch said:
There have been plenty of physical studs who have failed because the have the mental capacity of a wooden post. It usually is exposed when going from college to pro level but it does happen quite a bit.
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like Mr Shuler
 
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justingroves said:
It's a huge part of it. Guys don't play for coaches they don't respect (which is a huge problem for CPF)
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you can respect a person you don't like. in fact, much like in the military, in football you are more likely to work hard for a guy who busts your balls than a guy you're chummy with. football isn't about making friends. it's about working hard and winning games.

if anything, the fact that they like him but won't work hard for him shows that they don't respect him.
 
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ksushalovesthevols said:
i don't give a rat's behind whether the players like him and find playing for him enjoyable. that, as far as i can tell, isn't an essential ingredient in winning football games.

i could further not give a rat's behind what he did when he was at a third tier toilet football program. i'm a vol fan. i don't care if he took the kansas city chiefs to the super bowl ten years in a row if he can't win games at tennessee!

i'd take cut over him any day.

he has not proven himself a competitor in the SEC arena. period. end of story.
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I've heard of very few high school recruits anxious to play for coaches that they don't like.
 
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babercr1 said:
Not been on many sports teams have you? As long as they're winning players will find a way to ignore their dislike of a coach, but once things start going bad they will just get worse if the players don't like their coach. Just think of Tom Coughlin.
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actually been playing sports since i was 5. again, not saying they have to hate the guy, but you get too chummy with the players and it's difficult to execute your authority.
 
#75
#75
i'm not saying cut is perfect, but he was in the same position as clawson is now (working under a HC that frequently overrides his decisions) and he still managed to do better. i'm just using him for comparison. obviously, there are a number of people i'd take over both cut and clawson for OC.
 
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