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#27
#27
HuntlandVolinColo said:
On the flip side, how do fire a coach that beats Florida twice in a row and Georgia three straight?
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You're probably right. Let me rephrase, he would lose ALOT of support if he loses to Vandy in back to back years and drops 3 out of 5 to them. But like you said, I think it all kinda depends on the situation and the how and whys.
 
#28
#28
It amazes me how when we win the east it is attributed to everyone having a down year. In reality when uga or florida win it the other teams are having down years too. Just sayin, if you win the east or west you win it period. GBO!!!
 
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#30
#30
BeardedVol said:
Your first scenario is highly unlikely. Georgia and Florida both have better chances of holding a 6-2 or better conference record than we do given our respective schedules.
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I don't agree, uf isn't that great and they are likely to lose 2 or 3. We get uga at home and they still have to play tough games as well, but UGA is no doubt the favorite the summertime paper champs always look good in the summertime. LOL!!! GBO!!!!
 
#32
#32
wildorange said:
I don't agree, uf isn't that great and they are likely to lose 2 or 3. We get uga at home and they still have to play tough games as well, but UGA is no doubt the favorite the summertime paper champs always look good in the summertime. LOL!!! GBO!!!!
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So UF and UGA may have down years.
 
#36
#36
Boca Vol said:
I'm certainly OK with that, but someone has to win the East. It doesn't mean you accomplished a whole lot but at least you're on the ballot.



If we beat Bama...sure.



NOPE! The pumpers will remind you what poor Butch inherited...even though it's been 5 seasons removed.
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The pessimism is oozing out of you.
 
#37
#37
I'm worried about our offense without having Kamara and Dobbs running ability. I think we win 8-9 games without seeing what we will look like.

I'm really excited about J.Kelly and I hope he'll make the defense respect him to open things up.
 
#39
#39
Iam4utalways said:
How do we beat Florida, then lose to Vandy?
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Happens all the time. The team and fans were super-charged to play against Florida, Florida was overconfident, the UT home crowd was insane that day which definitely affected momentum. Most of that was missing against Vandy.
 
#40
#40
HuntlandVolinColo said:
Florida will have 7-8 new starters on Defense, so maybe we can get to them early before that Defense gels.
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I think the idea that UF will have a huge fall-off on defense is overstated. I'm not seeing the 7-8 new starters either; Cece Jefferson at DE, multiple starts and extensive playing time, Jabari Zuniga at DE, sack leader last year, extensive playing time/starts, interior d-linemen Bryan and Clark both played extensively in every game, not sure if they technically "started" every game but you cant find a game where they didn't get serious playing time. LB's Reese/Johnson/Joseph played entire SEC games and started many with how banged-up UF was at LB last year. This trio started the LSU, Bama and Bowl Game, and played all season long. Corners Chauncey Gardner and Duke Dawson had many starts at safety and nickel last year (especially Dawson). Gardner is expected to be the next great one at UF. Both safeties have played a ton of football; Marcel Harris and Nick Washington.

They'll need some Freshmen and underclassmen to emerge for depth, but have a look at UF's ridiculous incoming DB's and you'll see that secondary is not a concern. LB is the biggest concern on the defense after the three starters and Jeremiah Moon. Nobody beyond those four jump out right now.
 
#41
#41
Jaws said:
Happens all the time. The team and fans were super-charged to play against Florida, Florida was overconfident, the UT home crowd was insane that day which definitely affected momentum. Most of that was missing against Vandy.
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Nah, it doesn't happen that often.

I think the players had no respect for Vandy, but that's not new but it was a factor in the out come.
 
#42
#42
Jaws said:
I think the idea that UF will have a huge fall-off on defense is overstated. I'm not seeing the 7-8 new starters either; Cece Jefferson at DE, multiple starts and extensive playing time, Jabari Zuniga at DE, sack leader last year, extensive playing time/starts, interior d-linemen Bryan and Clark both played extensively in every game, not sure if they technically "started" every game but you cant find a game where they didn't get serious playing time. LB's Reese/Johnson/Joseph played entire SEC games and started many with how banged-up UF was at LB last year. This trio started the LSU, Bama and Bowl Game, and played all season long. Corners Chauncey Gardner and Duke Dawson had many starts at safety and nickel last year (especially Dawson). Gardner is expected to be the next great one at UF. Both safeties have played a ton of football; Marcel Harris and Nick Washington.

They'll need some Freshmen and underclassmen to emerge for depth, but have a look at UF's ridiculous incoming DB's and you'll see that secondary is not a concern. LB is the biggest concern on the defense after the three starters and Jeremiah Moon. Nobody beyond those four jump out right now.
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I don't think anyone is expecting them to be bad. But they lost their DC and a lot of their most talented players, so I don't see them fielding an elite defense that can basically get them to Atlanta without any offensive help like the past two years.

They should still be good. I just don't expect them to be great like the past few years.
 
#47
#47
Johnnyreb#VFL said:
What scenario costs Butch his job?
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I say anything less than five wins. Dude is set with a heafty buyout. Saying that, it has to be four wins and a rash of off the field problems. I don't know if the Butchisms makes much of a difference.

Personally, I think he knows he won't be here permanently and will coach for the buyout while looking to go back down to a mid-level program.
 
#48
#48
The Gators play the candy east teams,UGA,UT,aTm,and LSU. Those are 4 possible losses. Michigan makes 5 but 4 SEC possible losses. UGA plays east,Fla,UT,Miss St,and Auburn. 4 possible losses but one beats other so one will have 3 at worst. Can we beat mighty Vandy,powerful Cocks,Cats,Mizzou,UGA,Fla,LSU,and Bama? I believe that we beat LSU. They have no QB,we do. Fla in swamp is a hard row to hoe. UGA in Neyland is a 50-50% right now. All the candy teams in the east,we should beat. I'm going to assume that we do. I guarantee KY will beat one of the better teams this year,BTW. Bama is nigh impossible. We have a 15-20% chance. Anything can happen and Hurts isn't that good. So,as you can see,one of Fla and UGA will have 2-3 losses in SEC. 75%. We have a 45% chance at Fla. A 50% chance with UGA,a 65% chance hosting LSU,and a 15% at Bryant-Denny. Our chances to lose to a weak east team is 40%. combined. Jones best coach his ass off. We can do it. We can make ATL. We may have given UF and UGA a loss and tie break to us. That evens out the Bama game if we can. The D will be the main concern I have. They play good,10 wins. Poor 8. GBO GOVOLS
 
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#49
#49
Webbvol32 said:
The Gators play the candy east teams,UGA,UT,aTm,and LSU. Those are 4 possible losses. Michigan makes 5 but 4 SEC possible losses. UGA plays east,Fla,UT,Miss St,and Auburn. 4 possible losses but one beats other so one will have 3 at worst. Can we beat mighty Vandy,powerful Cocks,Cats,Mizzou,UGA,Fla,LSU,and Bama? I believe that we beat LSU. They have no QB,we do. Fla in swamp is a hard row to hoe. UGA in Neyland is a 50-50% right now. All the candy teams in the east,we should beat. I'm going to assume that we do. I guarantee KY will beat one of the better teams this year,BTW. Bama is nigh impossible. We have a 15-20% chance. Anything can happen and Hurts isn't that good. So,as you can see,one of Fla and UGA will have 2-3 losses in SEC. 75%. We have a 45% chance at Fla. A 50% chance with UGA,a 65% chance hosting LSU,and a 15% at Bryant-Denny. Our chances to lose to a weak east team is 40%. combined. Jones best coach his ass off. We can do it. We can make ATL. We may have given UF and UGA a loss and tie break to us. That evens out the Bama game if we can. The D will be the main concern I have. They play good,10 wins. Poor 8. GBO GOVOLS
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I'm not high. I'm in manic state of bipolar disorder. Go Vols!
 
#50
#50
Might as well and have fun with it and be bold. I think we stumble and bumble a few times during the season but overall only lose to Bama and LSU.

I see the Vols schedule rolling like this;

GT - 10
Vols- 41

IS - 6
Vols - 45

UF - 21
Vols - 34

UM - 10
Vols - 40

UGA- 24
Vols - 30

SC - 23
Vols - 35

UA - 38
Vols - 31

UK - 23
Vols - 27

USM - 17
Vols - 28

UM - 24
Vols - 28

LSU- 31
Vols - 30

VU - 16
vOLS - 45
 
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