SB-XLVI-Teams-Template CDD is Building

[ItsAllVols]

With the new signing of 2011 and 2012 classes is CDD building a team that is a product of the Super Bowl XLVI

OL that will hold off the rush, 5-8 yrd passes - with the back end passes. Wide receivers that will have YAC
Running Back that can get you 4-6 yrds

Spreading out the D and let the receivers YAC the SEC Teams, It has been said it wont work, but few SEC teams ever had a stable of 4-#1 Receivers 4-#2 Receivers...and a QB that has a un-canny calm

 

[Jax_Vol]

Yes!!! That is exactly correct. And it will work in 2012!

 

[omghulkhands]

inb4 someone says you have to be a power running team to win in the SEC

 

[Lexvol]

If you can run the football and play defense, you can play with anybody.

In fairness, last year I would have loved to have seen some kind of ball control "option" passing attack similar to what the Pats were doing. We refused to do it, and instead opted to stretch the field on every dang play.

 

[SCvol333]

I agree you need to be passing focused - I am not sure where the RB is that gets us 4-6 yards per carry - that certainly wasnt there last year

 

[Jax_Vol]

I agree you need to be passing focused - I am not sure where the RB is that gets us 4-6 yards per carry - that certainly wasnt there last year

Meet Davante'

 

[Smokeytom]

If you can run the football and play defense, you can play with anybody.

In fairness, last year I would have loved to have seen some kind of ball control "option" passing attack similar to what the Pats were doing. We refused to do it, and instead opted to stretch the field on every dang play.

Not true, I just watched the Cincy game again yesterday, and before you say "blah blah its cincy blah", just hear me out. What we did against Cincy is what Chaney WANTS to do against everybody. We didn't just score as quick as possible. We ATE UP the clock with a mixture of short, and medium passes, plus the deep throw every now and then. In the second half of that game, our run game actually picked up a little bit.

Our offense has the big play, quick strike ability, BUT when Chaney has HIS WAY, we eat up the clock, nickel and dime teams to death with a great, pro style passing game.

There was just no way to execute this without a good QB. Even WITHOUT JH11 against Florida we managed to work our way back into it, it was our defense that couldn't make a stop (well before Florida was in the redzone/field goal range at least).

This is why i'm excited to have all these weapons, and depth at WR. Chaney knows what he is doing.

GO VOLS!

 

[Lexvol]

Not true, I just watched the Cincy game again yesterday, and before you say "blah blah its cincy blah", just hear me out. What we did against Cincy is what Chaney WANTS to do against everybody. We didn't just score as quick as possible. We ATE UP the clock with a mixture of short, and medium passes, plus the deep throw every now and then. In the second half of that game, our run game actually picked up a little bit.

Our offense has the big play, quick strike ability, BUT when Chaney has HIS WAY, we eat up the clock, nickel and dime teams to death with a great, pro style passing game.

There was just no way to execute this without a good QB. Even WITHOUT JH11 against Florida we managed to work our way back into it, it was our defense that couldn't make a stop (well before Florida was in the redzone/field goal range at least).

This is why i'm excited to have all these weapons, and depth at WR. Chaney knows what he is doing.

GO VOLS!

I don't have Cinci on DVR. How many games did you attend? I don't ask to be a smartass. I couldn't believe the deep routes (twelve yards or more) that they ran consistently. You don't need a QB with Uncle Rico's arm to play ball control. They just abandoned it as the season progressed.

 

[Vol8188]

I like the idea of throwing the ball like crazy in the SEC. We don't have the talent of LSU and Alabama, yet, so it would be insane for us to try and run a similar style offense and expect the same kind of production that AL and LSU get. When you're the underdog, it is far better to be unique. If everyone else runs the ball 60% of the time, then lets throw 70%.

 

[Jax_Vol]

I like the idea of throwing the ball like crazy in the SEC. We don't have the talent of LSU and Alabama, yet, so it would be insane for us to try and run a similar style offense and expect the same kind of production that AL and LSU get. When you're the underdog, it is far better to be unique. If everyone else runs the ball 60% of the time, then lets throw 70%.

Yes! I agree fully! We want to be the New Orleans Saints of the SEC

 

[Smokeytom]

I don't have Cinci on DVR. How many games did you attend? I don't ask to be a smartass. I couldn't believe the deep routes (twelve yards or more) that they ran consistently. You don't need a QB with Uncle Rico's arm to play ball control. They just abandoned it as the season progressed.

I got to attend just the Arkansas game :sad: (that's still a 3 hour drive for me) since i live in Arkansas. And yeah you don't have to have a great QB, but still a QB that has more experience than a true freshman that hardly knows the offense. Simms really was a joke. One of Bray's best traits is his quick decision to the check down/TE/RB to pick up the 5 yrd , "ball control" yards. Rivera ate up Georgia.

But it just makes me a little more excited for this year bc i feel even if we lose Bray (please god just let us stay healthy) that Worley can step in and really compete. That experience he got could really pay off. More depth and a 3rd year under Chaney's offense with these players....man I think our offense will be great this year. :crossfingers:

 

[Vol8188]

Yes! I agree fully! We want to be the New Orleans Saints of the SEC

Lol I was hoping for the Patriots or Giants, but that works too.

 

[Vol8188]

I got to attend just the Arkansas game :sad: (that's still a 3 hour drive for me) since i live in Arkansas. And yeah you don't have to have a great QB, but still a QB that has more experience than a true freshman that hardly knows the offense. Simms really was a joke. One of Bray's best traits is his quick decision to the check down/TE/RB to pick up the 5 yrd , "ball control" yards. Rivera ate up Georgia.

But it just makes me a little more excited for this year bc i feel even if we lose Bray (please god just let us stay healthy) that Worley can step in and really compete. That experience he got could really pay off. More depth and a 3rd year under Chaney's offense with these players....man I think our offense will be great this year. :crossfingers:

I really agree with that last part. Worley made some great throws. He has plenty of arm talent, just needs time to mature.

 

[Smokeytom]

I suggest to anyone to find some video of the Cincy game, and really just watch Bray's control over the entire game. No delay of game, milking the clock sometimes, picking up the pace every now and then. When our Offense has it's weapons and can do what it wants, its just as effective as Alabama, LSU when it comes to working the clock.

The one thing i was really looking for was how fast we score, and if, when Chaney's offense is clicking, we are going to be one of those teams that doesn't give their Defense time to rest, but we aren't. We work the clock nicely. and scored 45 points. :yes:
His style can definitely work in the SEC, imo. Can we please just stay healthy??

 

[99gator]

you don't have to be a running team, but you have to be able to run the football.

steve spurrier did it in the 90's and bobby petrino is doing it now.

 

[99gator]

on a side note, the answer to the question is no.

i don't think this is the template derek dooley is trying to build. i believe he is trying to do the best with what he's got. what he's got is a pretty good qb and some talented receivers.

he doesn't have a line that can run block and he doesn't have workhorse running back.

in a perfect world, i think he would like to have a traditional pro style offense that isn't either run dominated or pass dominated, but could do either when they had to.

but, again, he doesn't have the personnel for that.

 

[ItsAllVols]

I agree you need to be passing focused - I am not sure where the RB is that gets us 4-6 yards per carry - that certainly wasnt there last year

Controlling the clock can be done with a pass that the WR stays in bounds and get the YAC

Or running the ball...

 

[Vol8188]

you don't have to be a running team, but you have to be able to run the football.

steve spurrier did it in the 90's and bobby petrino is doing it now.

That's the same as saying: You don't have to be a passing team, but you have to be able to throw the football. Or "You don't have to be a great run defense but you have to be able to stop the run" "You don't have to be a great pass defense, but you have to be able to stop the pass".

 

[ItsAllVols]

I got to attend just the Arkansas game :sad: (that's still a 3 hour drive for me) since i live in Arkansas. And yeah you don't have to have a great QB, but still a QB that has more experience than a true freshman that hardly knows the offense. Simms really was a joke. One of Bray's best traits is his quick decision to the check down/TE/RB to pick up the 5 yrd , "ball control" yards. Rivera ate up Georgia.

But it just makes me a little more excited for this year bc i feel even if we lose Bray (please god just let us stay healthy) that Worley can step in and really compete. That experience he got could really pay off. More depth and a 3rd year under Chaney's offense with these players....man I think our offense will be great this year. :crossfingers:

Worley was dealt with 2 issues...lack of RB that would help the spreading the D out "Only because he was young to this offense" and lack of big receivers that was confident with him NOT throwing them into a BAD HIT..

And his lack of knowledge of the play book

Rivera was awesome with his YAC but his blocking was SOOO bad at the line that we were playing with 10 players on the field...our run game suffered because of it.. I agree it was the worst game of the year for me...

 

[ItsAllVols]

on a side note, the answer to the question is no.

i don't think this is the template derek dooley is trying to build. i believe he is trying to do the best with what he's got. what he's got is a pretty good qb and some talented receivers.
he doesn't have a line that can run block and he doesn't have workhorse running back.
in a perfect world, i think he would like to have a traditional pro style offense that isn't either run dominated or pass dominated, but could do either when they had to.
but, again, he doesn't have the personnel for that.

But Im supprised UF did it last year against UT, UF by far doesnt have a dominate OL for running...your 2 speedsters did most of the work..
2012 will be different for UT...with a healthy Bray and WR we put on the filed....few teams will be able to take away any aspect of our passing or running game...we have added allot of speed and the OL is 3 years into playing time...they will run block this year...

 

[99gator]

That's the same as saying: You don't have to be a passing team, but you have to be able to throw the football. Or "You don't have to be a great run defense but you have to be able to stop the run" "You don't have to be a great pass defense, but you have to be able to stop the pass".

ok, let me rephrase.

you don't have to run for 200 yards per game.

but, you do need to pick up 3rd and 2's on the ground. you do need to be able to run in the red zone. you do need to be able to run to bleed the clock. you need to be able to run the ball well enough to slow down a pass rush.

is that acceptable for you?

 

[SCvol333]

Controlling the clock can be done with a pass that the WR stays in bounds and get the YAC

Or running the ball...

I'm with you on that - I think that we should likely pass even more this year as we just didnt get anything when we ran the ball last year and if the NFL is telling you anything right now its that the ability to pass and defend the pass are the 2 most important things

I only mentioned the run b/c the OP acted like we had a RB that can get 4-6 yds per carry each time - and this was news to me - itd be great if we could get that per carry but if we could do that and pass then we wouldnt really have any problems now would we

 

[ItsAllVols]

ok, let me rephrase.

you don't have to run for 200 yards per game.

but, you do need to pick up 3rd and 2's on the ground. you do need to be able to run in the red zone. you do need to be able to run to bleed the clock. you need to be able to run the ball well enough to slow down a pass rush.

is that acceptable for you?

I was just supprised about the comment from 99gator, yes we do need the short yardage runners. CDD brought in some big boys 6'3..6'2 that has power behind them..and Danny O'Brien DL that has carried the ball at 6'2 310...but as you know there are several ways to pick up the running game when u have track speed...UF had 2 good ones last year...glad they graduated.

 

[Smokeytom]

ok, let me rephrase.

you don't have to run for 200 yards per game.

but, you do need to pick up 3rd and 2's on the ground. you do need to be able to run in the red zone. you do need to be able to run to bleed the clock. you need to be able to run the ball well enough to slow down a pass rush.

is that acceptable for you?

even simpler terms: Rush yards > 0

Florida -9
Georgia -21

 

[bamawriter]

As I said on a similar thread yesterday, the trend in BCSCGs indicates that you have a better chance of winning the NC with a superstar running back than you do with a superstar quarterback.