Savion Herring arrested

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DaddyChad said:
No idea the circumstances so I won’t comment on his situation. Young men need to learn to remove themselves from these situations when they can. If you’re in a relationship with crazy get out. If you’re in a heated argument take a walk and cool down. It’s just not worth letting a bad decision ruin your life.
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Glad you told me.
 
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#127
37620VOL said:
Looking at the data on violent crime overall. Things got progressively worse from WW2 until about 1990. For the last 30 years, America has become less violent.
There was about half the rate of violent crime in 2019 as there was in 1991.
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Interesting that you chose 1991 as your base year. That was the highest per capita rate of violent crime in the last 6 decades. It also corresponded to the tail end of the crack epidemic during which violent crime soared.

The fact that we are below the 1991 level is no cause for comfort. If you had chose 1960 as your base year, you would have concluded that the violent crime rate today was more than double what is was in 1960.
 
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wrharvey21 said:
A.J. says hi
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At UT, AJ is one example of a fabrication. But there are dozens that turned out to be true.

Until there is an actual judge and jury, the head coach and the AD effectively act as the judge and jury of who makes up the roster of the football team. They review any evidence available to them, and then they make a decision. I'm okay with that. But I think the administration should take some heat when they suspend a player and he ends up being innocent.
 
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VAVol85 said:
Interesting that you chose 1991 as your base year. That was the highest per capita rate of violent crime in the last 6 decades. It also corresponded to the tail end of the crack epidemic during which violent crime soared.

The fact that we are below the 1991 level is no cause for comfort. If you had chose 1960 as your base year, you would have concluded that the violent crime rate today was more than double what is was in 1960.
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No, what I did was I told the whole story: that crime went up through 1990 but since then the trend has been downward... for 30 years.

Further, things were so different in the 1960s, I'm not sure it's even relevant anymore. In the '60s if your family beat you half to death you didn't report it because it was family. If you got raped, you were supposed to be ashamed, and not report it.

I'm glad my wife and daughters are living in today's time and not the '60s.
 
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37620VOL said:
No, what I did was I told the whole story: that crime went up through 1990 but since then the trend has been downward... for 30 years.

Further, things were so different in the 1960s, I'm not sure it's even relevant anymore. In the '60s if your family beat you half to death you didn't report it because it was family. If you got raped, you were supposed to be ashamed, and not report it.

I'm glad my wife and daughters are living in today's time and not the '60s.
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What you did was use the worst data on record to say that today is only half as bad, while ignoring that today is twice as bad as 60 years ago. Further, trying to use overall violent crime data to reach a conclusion about specific underlying crime like domestic violence is a flawed application of statistics.
 
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VAVol85 said:
What you did was use the worst data on record to say that today is only half as bad, while ignoring that today is twice as bad as 60 years ago. Further, trying to use overall violent crime data to reach a conclusion about specific underlying crime like domestic violence is a flawed application of statistics.
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All statistics on domestic violence are flawed. It's always been significantly underreported. I used the best available data.
 
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37620VOL said:
At UT, AJ is one example of a fabrication. But there are dozens that turned out to be true.

Until there is an actual judge and jury, the head coach and the AD effectively act as the judge and jury of who makes up the roster of the football team. They review any evidence available to them, and then they make a decision. I'm okay with that. But I think the administration should take some heat when they suspend a player and he ends up being innocent.
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I agree 100%.

Everyone treats these kids as they're immediately guilty though which is the complete opposite of what should happen. "Innocent until proven guilty"

I realize there was video evidence in this case, but there isn't always.
 
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Volunteer08 said:
Those saying parenting will solve this cracks me up. There are so many variables that's one of thousands.
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We are in the midst of the #metoo explosion and many examples of violence against women involving sports figures find increasing publicity with dire consequences for those who perpetrate the violence. Even without good parenting it appears obvious that any athlete either pro or scholarship would have to be incredibly dense to fail to see how dangerous violence against women is in today's climate. Social media and ubiquitous cameras exacerbate the danger for loss of income or a scholarship and any future income. Men who cannot control their tempers enough to resist violence against women do not deserve to be scholarship athletes at UT period.
This is of course in addition to the moral and social issue of violence against women. A 300lb lineman or a 6ft. 210lb linebacker hitting and kicking a woman is a bad look for which there is no excuse. Any football player too dumb to realize any of this is too dumb to wear the orange for Tennessee - I don't care if he had the worst parents in history.
I hope the use of violence against women is a constant topic in player to player and coach to player discussions on campus and every team member is encouraged to step up and step in to stop this behavior whenever it starts for the sake of the team. The VOLS can ill afford to lose players to this kind of self-destructive stupidity.
"The National Coalition Against Violent Athletes on its website at ncava.org: A three-year study showed that while male student-athletes make up 3% of the population on college campuses, they account for 20% of sexual assaults and 35% of domestic assaults on college campuses"
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Athletes_and_domestic_violence
 
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37620VOL said:
Looking at the data on violent crime overall. Things got progressively worse from WW2 until about 1990. For the last 30 years, America has become less violent.
There was about half the rate of violent crime in 2019 as there was in 1991.
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Yeah? Now, that's interesting. Daily reports of gun violence, shootings at stores, cinema venues, murder by cops, in-family assaults and shootings, hate-fueled violence, we even just got threatened that if the law is applied to a certain person, widespread violence will occur, and so much more doesn't really happen? Just people's morbid imaginations? Then I guess things really are getting better with decreased violence. But don't worry, it's just people's imagination, it's not really what's happening, we're getting better.
 
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