Sane Vol Fan Roll Call

#26
#26
philberry31 said:
Score so far we have:
Sane: AV, VFL2407, Orangelluvr, TXVol44, VolNExile, VolBricks

Nut Jobs:Burger, LocoVol, #Manningfan, TheTallGguy
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LocoVol is a nutjob for posting a picture of mad Phelps?

Something tells me your rankings are a tab bit.....skewed.
 
#28
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njvols said:
Am good with most of list except that some of us fans being "idiots" has direct correlation between what we're seeing on the field and our opinions. Young players playing doesn't hold water on turnovers and penalties...we were younger for the past three years, and these were strengths. Was at SC game, and didn't pass they "eye test" for gameplan...conservative until it's urgency time. Urgency time needs to start on first possession. Guess will find out soon enough
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We started more young/inexperienced players in the last two games than any time in the last three years. Granted they are more talented than those of the early years for sure.
 
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#29
#29
Stability doesn't come with the same bad head coach, it comes with wins.

Score so far we have:
Our coach sucks but trophies for everyone yayyy: AV, VFL2407, Orangelluvr, TXVol44, VolNExile, VolBricks

Realistic true fans: Burger, LocoVol, #Manningfan, TheTallGguy, UT_King
 
#30
#30
I agree with OP but,

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#31
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philberry31 said:
We started more young/inexperienced players in the last two games than any time in the last three years. Granted they are more talented than those of the early years for sure.
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Maybe correct, or maybe not...point is, outside of normal turnover and penalty ratios, the rest is coaching (good or bad). Every middle school or high school player is drilled on football security and not jumping off sides...or, heaven forbid, corner backs turning their heads towards the ball to prevent pass interference, so it's not a new concept for them. If all we do is shore these two things up, we probably win out.
 
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#32
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philberry31 said:
I think this roll call may need to be a regular and reoccurring event. I don't think that this thread will be a refuge of coherency and sanity but it will clearly delineate and define the insane and sane Vol fans.
1) Butch cannot and won’t be fired –
a. Economically this is not remotely feasible
b. He has made major improvements to the program
c. Just a year ago the same idiots who wanted him fired were afraid he was off to Michigan
d. Many teams run the same style “garbage” offense that Butch prefers (in fact Saban Almighty switched to something like it from a pro style)
e. Many of the coaches that the deranged Vol fans put forth as Butch’s replacement run similar offenses.
2) Notice that the Vols’ woes coincide with a rash of injuries that no team (not even Bamer) could weather-
a. It is easier to name the players from the original starting 22 who have not been out for injury
b. The number of injuries does not begin tell the whole story… with the exception of Barnett and Dobbs, every impact player has been injured, many for the season
c. In reality we are now playing with more inexperienced players that at any other time in the Butch Jones Era
d. It’s more about the Jimmy’s and the Joe’s than the X’s and the O’s
3) Jalen Hurd is not the Devil (Saban is) and Butch is not running off all our players-
a. Jalen is a typical Millennial brat who cannot be told that he is not the most important thing in the universe
b. Jalen will look back and wish he did things differently
c. Butch if nothing else is dedicated to the Vols and preaches and demonstrates loyalty to the team, his players, staff and UT in general
d. Butch’s approach and attitude is going to repel selfish, weak character individuals who put themselves ahead of the team
e. It is a good thing when elements that are contrary to the team leave, it is healthy
4) Finally, usually the Vols get destroyed in the gauntlet of late Sept – Oct. and eat up the cookies in Nov. This season we did admirably in the gauntlet and dropped the first cookie, I think that is an easier fix and we are in much better shape than we have been in a while.

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#33
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#1ManningFan said:
4th year. East title on the line. Coming off a bye week and gets beat by a sorry a** USCjr team. Let that sink in for a sec. Jones hasn't outcoached anyone to this point in his tenure. He's an amateur that's a snake oil salesman. He never talks about anything with substance. It's all clichés and fools gold. He sealed it for me when he said we are about to go to our 3rd bowl game for the first time since 02. Really? He just pulled a Doolittle.
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Championship teams don't lose to frosh QB's just out of high school
 
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VolBricks said:
OP, I am going to tell you just like I told the "Old Guy" post earlier. If you are going to post stuff that makes good common sense, then you need to go to another message board. We only want knee-jerk reactions, wild guesses and out right rumor mongering on this forum.
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You forgot Sarcasm, Insults, and Ridicule.
 
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Nice job, PhilBerry, and well written. I don't agree with every point you made, but absolutely agree with a lot of them. Well done.
 
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#39
I do not want Butch fired . I do think we need an offensive staff cleansing, plus DB coach. I also do not agree that Butch will not let the tail wag the dog. Hurd has not been his self this year. I do believe he pulled his self out of the Georgia game . I do believe the players are the ones that stepped up to quell the situation. After he threw his fit in Georgia and after Kamara had a great game against A&M we put Hurd back in the starter roll and Alvin gets 12 touches the whole game including punts. No Butch had no part of that. Once again I do not want him fired because I do believe he has the fire to do what it takes to keep us going in the right direction. I am just worried he is too stubborn to keep it going in the right direction.
 
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#42
Agreed with the OP. And yes, Butch has not given close to sufficient reason for a Head Coach change. Stability is quite important and I for one want to see this building process continue. Of course, we've seen growing pains with him as he adjusts to the SEC. Coaches look objectively at the changing dynamics of a season. Many fans run with their hair on fire after each disappointment.
 
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#44
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TXVol_44 said:
Perspective for our Millennial Generation of Spoiled Rotten Fans: From 1977 to 2008, a 31 year period, the University of Tennessee had TWO football coaches. From 2009 to 2016, a 7 year period, we've had THREE. My point? Transitions are costly, destabilizing, and often only breed more contempt for "rebuilding" a football program. It is much more cost effective to build with what you have, tweak the means of production (offensive, defensive, and special teams schemes), and show some patience and build some stability. Period.
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AMEN :clapping:
 
#45
#45
I'm with ya OP. Though I may be considered more senile than sane. But I liked what you posted.
 
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I was never afraid of Butch going to Michigan for a couple of reasons:

#1 - Butch has not been a hot commodity since he has been here.
#2 - Michigan can (and did) do better than Butch. They refused to accept mediocrity and opened the checkbook in order to get a elite coach.
 
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Pepe_Silvia said:
I was never afraid of Butch going to Michigan for a couple of reasons:

#1 - Butch has not been a hot commodity since he has been here.
#2 - Michigan can (and did) do better than Butch. They refused to accept mediocrity and opened the checkbook in order to get a elite coach.
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Michigan's struggled forever to get the 'right coach'. They just happened to have a former player that's a great coach willing to come home. I don't believe we have that scenario.
 
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TXVol_44 said:
Perspective for our Millennial Generation of Spoiled Rotten Fans: From 1977 to 2008, a 31 year period, the University of Tennessee had TWO football coaches. From 2009 to 2016, a 7 year period, we've had THREE. My point? Transitions are costly, destabilizing, and often only breed more contempt for "rebuilding" a football program. It is much more cost effective to build with what you have, tweak the means of production (offensive, defensive, and special teams schemes), and show some patience and build some stability. Period.
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So agree but this world is full of "I want it" and "I want it now" folks who have no care for the future.
 
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screenthis said:
Michigan's struggled forever to get the 'right coach'. They just happened to have a former player that's a great coach willing to come home. I don't believe we have that scenario.
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And they spent the money to get him. We'll continue to struggle as long as our AD takes the frugal route.
 
#50
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TXVol_44 said:
Perspective for our Millennial Generation of Spoiled Rotten Fans: From 1977 to 2008, a 31 year period, the University of Tennessee had TWO football coaches. From 2009 to 2016, a 7 year period, we've had THREE. My point? Transitions are costly, destabilizing, and often only breed more contempt for "rebuilding" a football program. It is much more cost effective to build with what you have, tweak the means of production (offensive, defensive, and special teams schemes), and show some patience and build some stability. Period.
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Yeah, we should have just kept Dooley right?
 
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