Sanders is the problem

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rockytopmojo

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In my opinon. He is toooo conservative. Off takle right, off takle left,...screen right,...screen left. Hey Sanders, throw the ball down field and stretch the defense! I am so sick of his playcalling. There is NO excuse for HIS calling yesterday. We have 5 receivers who can are great, a RB who is great, and a OLINE supposed to be great,....and all he calls are conservative plays. Anyone with any knowledge knows to simply bring 8 men in the box,....which is what UAB did. I say FIRE Sanders and bring back Cutcliff!!!!!!!!!!!!! I do realize that UAB is a decent team,...but the PLAYCALLING stunk!!!!!!!
 
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Originally posted by rockytopmojo@Sep 4, 2005 7:08 AM
We have 5 receivers who can are great,
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We DO?? Well, I wish they had showed up for the game yesterday!!

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Originally posted by LadyinOrange@Sep 4, 2005 7:10 AM
We DO?? Well, I wish they had showed up for the game yesterday!!

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I am not sure what you mean by "here we go again"? I will say our players do seem to have a team unity again this year. It is simply put that we need to stretch the field. DO YOU DISAGREE? Sanders must!
 
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No, the problem is that the players thought all they needed to do was just show up. That was just about the most half-hearted lack-luster performance I've seen in a long time from a Vol team. It wasn't play calling, it was execution.
 
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Originally posted by MyBloodRunnethOrange@Sep 4, 2005 7:17 AM
No, the problem is that the players thought all they needed to do was just show up. That was just about the most half-hearted lack-luster performance I've seen in a long time from a Vol team. It wasn't play calling, it was execution.
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How can you say that! Yes, they took them lightly, but the SAME plays were called ALL game long. THE one time Sanders called a pass deep across the middle....it was a touchdown. Could the players have played better? Absolutely, but Sanders could have called a better game. It is kinda hard to run with 8 men in the box,....I dont care who you have runnning the ball. Stretch the field,...dont be so predictable. Sanders coaches to old school. I can promise you Cutcliff would not have done that.
 
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I mean the players come out and look like a high school team, and now here comes the fire Sanders rants, and next it'll be chop off CPF's head , Blah blah blah, after the job Sanders did last yr, one flat performance and it's time for him to go, that's just wonderful! Did Sanders drop all those passes? did Sanders throw 3 piss poor passes that were intercepted? did Sanders block worse than my 52 yr old Momma? no, no, no
 
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Originally posted by volmanjr@Sep 4, 2005 7:28 AM
I mean the players come out and look like a high school team, and now here comes the fire Sanders rants, and next it'll be chop off CPF's head , Blah blah blah, after the job Sanders did last yr, one flat performance and it's time for him to go, that's just wonderful!  Did Sanders drop all those passes? did Sanders throw 3 piss poor passes that were intercepted? did Sanders block worse than my 52 yr old Momma? no, no, no
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I am not saying that the players were not to blame at all. BUT it is not fair of you to not put any blame on SANDERS either. So you are telling me Sanders DID stretch the field? You are telling me that he called a good game? You are only kidding yourself. Personally, I have always hated Sanders play calling. It has not been "1 flat" performance. That is totally your objective opinon. How about play go from the shotgun use those receivers. Dropping passes happen. Being rusty is just part of college football in the first game because there is no preseason. Those things will get better, BUT Sanders play calling SAD to say will not.
 
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Originally posted by rockytopmojo@Sep 4, 2005 7:33 AM
I am not saying that the players were not to blame at all. BUT it is not fair of you to not put any blame on SANDERS either.
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Stretching the field is not Rick's strength, and, after yesterday, I don't much think it is Eric's either.

You are telling me that he called a good game?
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I'm telling you that he called the game that CPF wanted him to call.

Personally, I have always hated Sanders play calling
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Which puts you in the company of about half the people on this board. Like I said, he calls the game the way CPF wants him to. CPF is conservative by nature. If you want someone who runs a WFO offense you've got the wrong team. That's not who UT is. Personally I'll take ten wins a year.​
 
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yes sander's play calling is conservative, and too conservative at times, but he is far down on the list of people to blame for yesterday's all-around performance. Lack of heart, dropped passes, bad blocking, and simply looking past UAB all had something to do with the team's performance. And like people posted in another thread, the play calling was very bland and simple on BOTH sides of the ball, so call for Chavis's job too if you insist. But, like others, I think they ran such a bland offense and defense in order to not show all their cards before the florida game. I have been critical, very critical of sanders in the past, but that was when his play calling consisted of a run on 1st and 2nd down, and a screen or a HB draw on 3rd and long. Last year he seemed to open it up a lot more, and I expect him to do the same beginning with the florida game. But if you are wanting a spread offense, with them working out of the 'gun a lot on first and second down, it's not gonna happen. That hasn't been TN football. They want to win the battle up front and wear you down with smashmouth football.
 
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Originally posted by volmanjr@Sep 4, 2005 7:28 AM
  Did Sanders drop all those passes? did Sanders throw 3 piss poor passes that were intercepted? did Sanders block worse than my 52 yr old Momma? no, no, no
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(I'm not laughing at your Momma, jr.)
 
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We should have expected a low-octane offense. We often don't want to show Florida too much before we play them (Always has been a bad decision in my opinion). We started off early throwing short passes to get some confidence which is good. However, we didn't execute throwing down the field and didn't try. I thought there was too much leakage from the OL. Good thing we have a week off to shore things up.
 
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Does anyone in this thread understand what UAB was playing in the secondary?

It was called a soft zone which is designed to not let the offense throw deep. The one time they played press coverage UT made them pay and secured the victory on the long 3rd down pass at the end of the game.

The biggest things on offense was lack of physical play by the O-line and receivers lack of concentration. How many of those WR's wore green Jersey's all fall. UT Green jerseyed WR before and they dropped balls all pver the place you would think they would have learned. Lack of contact in practice makes a soft team during games.
 
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Originally posted by Vol67@Sep 4, 2005 8:19 AM
Does anyone in this thread understand what UAB was playing in the secondary?

It was called a soft zone which is designed to not let the offense throw deep. The one time they played press coverage UT made them pay and secured the victory on the long 3rd down pass at the end of the game.

The biggest things on offense was lack of physical play by the O-line and receivers lack of concentration. How many of those WR's wore green Jersey's all fall. UT Green jerseyed WR before and they dropped balls all pver the place you would think they would have learned. Lack of contact in practice makes a soft team during games.
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Will the green jerseys start coming off after yesterday, 67?
 
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Originally posted by Vol67@Sep 4, 2005 8:19 AM
Does anyone in this thread understand what UAB was playing in the secondary?

It was called a soft zone which is designed to not let the offense throw deep. The one time they played press coverage UT made them pay and secured the victory on the long 3rd down pass at the end of the game.

The biggest things on offense was lack of physical play by the O-line and receivers lack of concentration. How many of those WR's wore green Jersey's all fall. UT Green jerseyed WR before and they dropped balls all pver the place you would think they would have learned. Lack of contact in practice makes a soft team during games.
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Bingo!! we have a winner. In addition, we have ALWAYS shown a very limited offense before the UF game. I suspect we'll see a little more diversity in 2 weeks. The OL has to play tougher and the WRs have to catch the ball. Our best set of hands seems to be Bret Smith. Where was he yesterday?
 
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Here's something to think about, when Meachem went out of the game the other WR's went flat.
 
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I agree with 67. UAB gave us the underneath routes. Problem is, the WRs kept dropping the damn balls (when Ainge wasnt throwing them over their heads or INTS).

Also, what we expected going into the game has a lot to do with some grumpy guses this morning. Did you think that CPF was gonna unlease RS and EA and try to put up 70 on UAB?



 
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Read the articles with quotes about the UAB defense. The reason we didn't go deep a lot is because they were playing 2-deep safety zone coverage the entire game. They were scared of our deep threats. If you know much about the technical side of the game of football you will know that it is near impossible to throw deep against 2-deep safety coverage. That's why we were wide open on all those intermediate and short passes. Now if you want to discuss our WR's dropping 5 wide open passes then that is another topic all together. Or maybe the fact that with UAB playing 2-deep safety coverage they never stacked the box and our powerful running game somehow didn't dominate? Those are the important questions. Sanders play-calling is not.
 
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Originally posted by rockytopmojo@Sep 4, 2005 7:08 AM
In my opinon. He is toooo conservative. Off takle right, off takle left,...screen right,...screen left. Hey Sanders, throw the ball down field and stretch the defense! I am so sick of his playcalling. There is NO excuse for HIS calling yesterday. We have 5 receivers who can are great, a RB who is great, and a OLINE supposed to be great,....and all he calls are conservative plays. Anyone with any knowledge knows to simply bring 8 men in the box,....which is what UAB did. I say FIRE Sanders and bring back Cutcliff!!!!!!!!!!!!! I do realize that UAB is a decent team,...but the PLAYCALLING stunk!!!!!!!
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That would be rash decision. IMHO, we suffer (each year) from not being fully prepared for the first part of the season, and it takes around mid-season before our team starts playing; by that time we have incurred enough losses to put us out of national contention.

This past year, Ole Miss replaced Cutcliffe with a “Fire Breathing” coach: Ed Orgeron (a former Southern Cal assistant; with no head-coaching experience). Coach “O” is the opposite of Coach “Cut” in coaching style. Cutcliffe has many of the same coaching qualities of Coach Fulmer: mild in temperament, places a high value on the mental aspects of the game (I think our play book weighs around 12 pounds), and expects each player to prepare themselves for each game. Coach “O” brings a Marine Corps’ approach to the game: he believes in motivation. This includes applying enough external pressure to ensure that each player plays up to their natural ability.

There is an old saying: “It’s better to have a lion leading sheep than to have a sheep leading lions”; we will have a great opportunity to see if this saying has any validity Monday night, when Old Miss takes the field against the University of Memphis. Ole Miss has lost the last two games against the U of M. Old Miss has basically the same players that Coach Cut has (with the exception of Eli). In today’s modern age of computers and information overload, can this coaching style be effective?

Stay tune…

 
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This was the same playcalling that almost knocked off undefeated Auburn last year in the SEC Championship last year...It was the fact that the players played with no emotion...I think they were looking towards the LSU and Florida games and just showed up and went through the motions against UAB.
 
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Vol67, its nice to see a voice of reason in this thread. Dropped passes.....cost us atleast 21 points and gave them 7. My favorite player(Anderson) was at the top of the Drop list.

Peace Cross
 
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Originally posted by utvol0427@Sep 4, 2005 10:51 AM
This was the same playcalling that almost knocked off undefeated Auburn last year in the SEC Championship last year...It was the fact that the players played with no emotion...I think they were looking towards the LSU and Florida games and just showed up and went through the motions against UAB.
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Exactly
 
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