Salter charged with misdemeanor

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lexkyvol said:
Some kids who have been sheltered mature late, still can be leaders at their position. Just not leaders off the field. Lots of athletes have early on issues. Look at ur guy BM. Hasn't he had more than one already? So does he fit as well? Does his issues keep him from being a leader?
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Brian is a natural leader “on” the field. That much was obvious when he took the reins in 2019. IMO he needs to be better “off” the field. Not that he’s a bad role model because he’s definitely not. He just needs to learn how to respond/not respond to criticism. When to defend and not defend his teammates publicly. When to speak and when to keep his mouth shut. But I can assure you he could care less about “fitting in”. He’s his own person and whether you agree or disagree with things he’s said/done in the past, you gotta respect the fact that he refuses to be a puppet. But this isn’t about Brian. It’s about Salter and the damage he’s done to himself by “following” if your theory is correct. You took a psychological angle and I respect that as possible but I personally think that it’s as simple as some kids just want to be thugs regardless of their potential.
 
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MinisterofDef#92 said:
That's quite the spin...you may have a future as a journalist - lol
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No spin - it’s a fact. If he did not complete requirements for graduation early, he would be at home with his parents (hopefully not out at 3am) and not subject to university disciplinary procedures. lol

Regardless - he made the choice to enroll early and has to live with the consequences. I am just expressing why I am more sympathetic to his situation than other wayward players.
 
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615vols said:
It 100% should be legal, but yeah this is salters fault. After the drug related robbery and assault, he was able to coast on the “young and still maturing “ excuses and given another chance. How hard is it to not do stupid sh** like this and simply not catch another charge? Dude is an idiot. Tennessee’s weed laws don’t even matter. Boot his a**.
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also, why do people assume the legal weed will be available to anyone under 21 years old. people assume that if it was federal legal, that Kaidon would of not been cited or reprimanded. similar to alcohol, legal weed will be available to 21 and up or higher.........if Kaidon would of been pulled over with beer, would everyone still be saying "it should be legal or beer is legal".............no way!
 
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Carp said:
I'd be fine with giving him the Jennings/Banks treatment and suspend him indefinitely, but allow him to work his way back on the team over the next 12 months. But I think it's out of JH's hands. The university already had him on probation. Unless they put him on double secret probation, I don't see how he comes back.
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Yeh we need to make this an example that our patience has run out with this kinda thing so future prospects understand that they won't be coming here acting a fool and it just getting swept under the rug until they really hurt someone or the team at the least.
 
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jackieaprilesr said:
also, why do people assume the legal weed will be available to anyone under 21 years old. people assume that if it was federal legal, that Kaidon would of not been cited or reprimanded. similar to alcohol, legal weed will be available to 21 and up or higher.........if Kaidon would of been pulled over with beer, would everyone still be saying "it should be legal or beer is legal".............no way!
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That's a lot of our younger generations' problem. They don't understand that rules and laws aren't always interchangeable . If the university or your job has a no substance abuse policy, it doesn't matter what anyone else says. Follow the damn rules if you wanna be there. It's incredibly simple.
 
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jackieaprilesr said:
also, why do people assume the legal weed will be available to anyone under 21 years old. people assume that if it was federal legal, that Kaidon would of not been cited or reprimanded. similar to alcohol, legal weed will be available to 21 and up or higher.........if Kaidon would of been pulled over with beer, would everyone still be saying "it should be legal or beer is legal".............no way!
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Where did I say that? Seems to me that you are the one assuming too much. I said it should be legal, never said anything about it in regards to under 21. Also, wasn’t he just charged with possession and not under the influence? If he were pulled over and had beer in his possession but not under the influence I’d say big f****** deal. Pull your diaper out of your a** crack old man. You seem hurt that someone dare think weed should be legal.
 
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Wezcoast said:
That's a lot of our younger generations' problem. They don't understand that rules and laws aren't always interchangeable . If the university or your job has a no substance abuse policy, it doesn't matter what anyone else says. Follow the damn rules if you wanna be there. It's incredibly simple.
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That’s not just a younger generation problem. Following policies is a problem for people of any age it seems.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
It’s stupid because hallucinogenic drugs like LSD are dangerous. Also, there is zero proof that these individuals were high on these drugs when they made their discoveries. Nor is there any proof that those same people couldn’t have solved these problems without drugs.
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They are dangerous when not controlled, but so is everything else like alcohol and oxycontin. Here are a couple of links that show you there is proof there is a clinical use for them: National Institute for Health Nobel Prize winner Crick LSD
 
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billcox0625 said:
Bottom line, dude shouldn't have been out at 3 AM on the streets with 4 grams - end of story. Add to the fact it has been basically a month since he was re-instated to the team after getting in trouble for a similar incident and he should be gone.
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I always told my boys that after 1 AM the only people who are out are you and the cops, so don’t do anything stupid (like driving around without tail lights).
 
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volsack said:
They are dangerous when not controlled, but so is everything else like alcohol and oxycontin. Here are a couple of links that show you there is proof there is a clinical use for them: National Institute for Health Nobel Prize winner Crick LSD
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Irrelevant. Dangerous is dangerous. Using whataboutism in this sense is dumb. Nobody knows how they are going to react to one of these types of drugs. Therefore trying to argue that there is any positives to using these drugs is pointless.
 
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TitanicVolz said:
The weed stuff is stupid, ruining ppls lives and stuff over some small amount of bud is asanine to me.Your spot on tho, with the way this state is will probably be the 53rd state to legalize it lol..They randomly stopped me in Gatlinburg,said they smelled 1.7gs from 300 yards(3 football fields)away as I passed windows up and it raining outside doin 50mph.Now I hadn't been smoking and it was in a sealed Mason jar.I ended up with possesion,dui,some more ignorant sh*t.Fought it got it all dismissed rightfully so.Point is I almost lost my job, had family members act strange etc etc all over some ass*ole that didn't have anything better to do.
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I love how you totally deflect any responsibility for what happened away from you and it's everybody else's who was in the wrong. Have you considered trying out for the team?
 
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615vols said:
Where did I say that? Seems to me that you are the one assuming too much. I said it should be legal, never said anything about it in regards to under 21. Also, wasn’t he just charged with possession and not under the influence? If he were pulled over and had beer in his possession but not under the influence I’d say big f****** deal. Pull your diaper out of your a** crack old man. You seem hurt that someone dare think weed should be legal.
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you must of read that wrong......i was just adding on to your already good point. did you read that negatively? the "also" in the first part of the post was meant as an additional agreeance with you.
 
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jackieaprilesr said:
you must of read that wrong......i was just adding on to your already good point. did you read that negatively? the "also" in the first part of the post was meant as an additional agreeance with you.
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Then I owe you an apology. I read that completely wrong. My bad on that one.
 
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VAVol85 said:
No spin - it’s a fact. If he did not complete requirements for graduation early, he would be at home with his parents (hopefully not out at 3am) and not subject to university disciplinary procedures. lol

Regardless - he made the choice to enroll early and has to live with the consequences. I am just expressing why I am more sympathetic to his situation than other wayward players.
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Those are facts per se but the casual relationship you imply is asinine, i.e., " It’s a shame that taking care of business and leaving high school early would lead to getting kicked out of college."

Methinks his poor choices related to drugs and personal behavior are the reasons why he is getting "kicked out of college"...lol.
 
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Mose Phillip's Watch said:
You should learn the truth not bs lies pot heads say

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You should learn the truth, not bs lies the ondcp, nida, and the federal government say.

Not one case ever recorded of overdose.

Look up why wood pulp paper won out against hemp paper behind President hoover and company from 1918 to 1930. Hemp paper was superior in almost every way but William Hearst, biggest owner or newspapers and pulp paper mills/land made a calculated effort/campaign on the dangers of Marijuana and hemp.

14.5 million us citizens fit alcohol use disorder criteria and 95,000 approximate deaths a year from alcohol, making it the 3rd highest preventable death cause in the country.

But seriously keep living in your fear bubble all you want. It's your God-given right to be ignorant.
 
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MinisterofDef#92 said:
Those are facts per se but the casual relationship you imply is asinine, i.e., " It’s a shame that taking care of business and leaving high school early would lead to getting kicked out of college."

Methinks his poor choices related to drugs and personal behavior are the reasons why he is getting "kicked out of college"...lol.
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No doubt his poor choices are on him. My point is that that at 17 he was talented, he was ready in terms of academics (to his credit), but not mature enough to make good decisions.

Another 6 months at home may or may not have made any difference in the final outcome, but at least he would have been making these dumb decisions at home and with fewer university consequences.

As stated, I support Heupel’s decision. I am just more sympathetic when the player is barely a freshman than when he is older.
 
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I would imagine that his antics have been every bit as bad in private as the public ones we know about. No way did he magically straighten up when around coaches and staff. I bet they were sick of him.
 
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1vol8 said:
Brian is a natural leader “on” the field. That much was obvious when he took the reins in 2019. IMO he needs to be better “off” the field. Not that he’s a bad role model because he’s definitely not. He just needs to learn how to respond/not respond to criticism. When to defend and not defend his teammates publicly. When to speak and when to keep his mouth shut. But I can assure you he could care less about “fitting in”. He’s his own person and whether you agree or disagree with things he’s said/done in the past, you gotta respect the fact that he refuses to be a puppet. But this isn’t about Brian. It’s about Salter and the damage he’s done to himself by “following” if your theory is correct. You took a psychological angle and I respect that as possible but I personally think that it’s as simple as some kids just want to be thugs regardless of their potential.
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i agree with this!
 
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VAVol85 said:
No doubt his poor choices are on him. My point is that that at 17 he was talented, he was ready in terms of academics (to his credit), but not mature enough to make good decisions.

Another 6 months at home may or may not have made any difference in the final outcome, but at least he would have been making these dumb decisions at home and with fewer university consequences.

As stated, I support Heupel’s decision. I am just more sympathetic when the player is barely a freshman than when he is older.
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Thanks for the clarification...I reacted to how you worded the original post. Having said that, I seriously doubt 6 mos would have made a difference and, getting arrested multiple times before ever arriving on campus can/will lead to a revoked scholarship.
 
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