Sal's defining game

#76
#76
govols105 said:
nope, everyone that says bama is an automatic loss needs to grow up and believe we can win. if you don't think we can beat bama sell your tickets to the game and stay home and watch gigi on vhs and eat bon bons and sniff finger nail polish while waxing your self. bama has a run game a very mediocre pass game and a good run defense, with the pass defense being weaker than last year.
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gigi and bon bons? hell yeah!! :rock::rock:
 
#77
#77
Sals defining game will be trying to stop the offensive juggernaut of Carolina. They present a lot of tough challenges for our D.. Good balance of power running game, athletic quarterback and a play action attack. However, if he doesn't have a good game plan for this week all of that won't matter.. Go Vols!
 
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TheBigOne10 said:
Sals defining game will be trying to stop the offensive juggernaut of Carolina. They present a lot of tough challenges for our D.. Good balance of power running game, athletic quarterback and a play action attack. However, if he doesn't have a good game plan for this week all of that won't matter.. Go Vols!
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are you retarded.
 
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#79
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BearCat204 said:
I see what you are getting at, and this weekend is pretty important, but Sals defining moment was two weeks ago when we manage to score 44 damn points and we still manage to lose by 7.
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sure, but didn't the defense help create some of those points?
 
#80
#80
If we even had an average D we could easily be undefeated. The weak link on this team is by far the d. I hope he can correct the mistakes.
 
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LWSVOL said:
he needs players. the issue with the defense is what was talked about for the last year.. lack of depth and lack of talent. they have been signing DBs at a tremendous rate because they are trying to fine kdis that can play.

Hard to make a judgement on Sal until the talent level and depth reach SEC levels. UT can't even find 11 starters on D that are SEC level let alone backups.
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IMO we have enough talent that we should atleast be competitive on defense. In our last three recruiting classes most of our recruits were coveted by either other sec teams and/or other major programs.

Installing a new defense I think are making them "look" slow. Hesitation, indecision, and just being plumb out of position. This is a coaching problem but understandable at this time.
 
#84
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Lexvol said:
No one is expecting greatness. Just improvement. So far....if we are honest....we've seen digression.
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This is the bottom-line for me. We have anything resembling Wilcox defense this year (and I agree, this defense should be improved over last year's unit), and we are going into Starkville undefeated and in the driver's seat for the SECE.

It's just that simple.
 
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gnm53108 said:
IMO we have enough talent that we should atleast be competitive on defense. In our last three recruiting classes most of our recruits were coveted by either other sec teams and/or other major programs.

Installing a new defense I think are making them "look" slow. Hesitation, indecision, and just being plumb out of position. This is a coaching problem but understandable at this time.
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I agree that the new scheme is part of the problem with the defense reactions. I don't see it as a coaching problem because with the limited time coaches and players can spend together, just can't get it implemented quick enough to play like Alabama. why the experts say it takes a year.

I asked Sal in June if it was a myth that changing from a 4-3 scheme to a 3-4 scheme was as difficult as the experts said. He said it was not a myth but also should not be used as an excuse.

That is fine for him to say that it is not an excuse but history dictates the struggles. doesn't matter if he admits it or not, it ain't going away. only so much a coach can do.

the next argument fans make is why Dooley would change to that in a year so critical to his future? Because the AD agreed he would have more time IMO. doesn't mean things could change as this season plays out on the extra time he needs. that will depend on attendence at games and outcomes of games.
 
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LWSVOL said:
I agree that the new scheme is part of the problem with the defense reactions. I don't see it as a coaching problem because with the limited time coaches and players can spend together, just can't get it implemented quick enough to play like Alabama. why the experts say it takes a year.

I asked Sal in June if it was a myth that changing from a 4-3 scheme to a 3-4 scheme was as difficult as the experts said. He said it was not a myth but also should not be used as an excuse.

That is fine for him to say that it is not an excuse but history dictates the struggles. doesn't matter if he admits it or not, it ain't going away. only so much a coach can do.

the next argument fans make is why Dooley would change to that in a year so critical to his future? Because the AD agreed he would have more time IMO. doesn't mean things could change as this season plays out on the extra time he needs. that will depend on attendence at games and outcomes of games.
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I imagine this is the case. Still though if after October and they're setting there at 3-5, makes you wonder if that agreement will stay the same.. I'd say they probably thought they'd be a little better off than that.. It still has to happen so it's hypothetical right now...
 
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Cartervol said:
I imagine this is the case. Still though if after October and they're setting there at 3-5, makes you wonder if that agreement will stay the same.. I'd say they probably thought they'd be a little better off than that.. It still has to happen so it's hypothetical right now...
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sure doesn't look good, but when 4 of those are to top 10 teams, and 3 could be to top 5, the competition is considered.
Not making an excuse. Just a point.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
sure doesn't look good, but when 4 of those are to top 10 teams, and 3 could be to top 5, the competition is considered.
Not making an excuse. Just a point.
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That's the SEC though.. So unless they're considering switching leagues that just really is a excuse.... There probably isn't going to be a time now or in the future that they're not playing 3, 4 or possibly 5 of those a year..
 
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Cartervol said:
That's the SEC though.. So unless they're considering switching leagues that just really is a excuse.... There probably isn't going to be a time now or in the future that they're not playing 3, 4 or possibly 5 of those a year..
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pretty much, but i don't think it's ever been where SC, fla, ga and bama are ranked so high together. Hell, it took Spurrier @ 6 years at SC to get to this point. With him rolling, Richt, Miles and Saban, it's a helluva time to be a coach in the SEC.
I don't know of many teams that play those 4, or add in florida, and don't come out with 4 L's.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
pretty much, but i don't think it's ever been where SC, fla, ga and bama are ranked so high together. Hell, it took Spurrier @ 6 years at SC to get to this point. With him rolling, Richt, Miles and Saban, it's a helluva time to be a coach in the SEC.
I don't know of many teams that play those 4, or add in florida, and don't come out with 4 L's.
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You have to try and at least hold your own.. A split isn't unreasonable.. A little better defense this year and that would probably be a reality.. No you're not going to run rough shot over those teams year in and year out.. You have to win your share at some point.. The thing is these teams don't back up to let you catch up.. They're recruiting and building just like we're trying to do..
 
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LWSVOL said:
I agree that the new scheme is part of the problem with the defense reactions. I don't see it as a coaching problem because with the limited time coaches and players can spend together, just can't get it implemented quick enough to play like Alabama. why the experts say it takes a year.

I asked Sal in June if it was a myth that changing from a 4-3 scheme to a 3-4 scheme was as difficult as the experts said. He said it was not a myth but also should not be used as an excuse.

That is fine for him to say that it is not an excuse but history dictates the struggles. doesn't matter if he admits it or not, it ain't going away. only so much a coach can do.

the next argument fans make is why Dooley would change to that in a year so critical to his future? Because the AD agreed he would have more time IMO. doesn't mean things could change as this season plays out on the extra time he needs. that will depend on attendence at games and outcomes of games.
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...or if the AD has some degree of certainty that he wants his own hire to lead the flagship program of the University.
 
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LWSVOL said:
I agree that the new scheme is part of the problem with the defense reactions. I don't see it as a coaching problem because with the limited time coaches and players can spend together, just can't get it implemented quick enough to play like Alabama. why the experts say it takes a year.

I asked Sal in June if it was a myth that changing from a 4-3 scheme to a 3-4 scheme was as difficult as the experts said. He said it was not a myth but also should not be used as an excuse.

That is fine for him to say that it is not an excuse but history dictates the struggles. doesn't matter if he admits it or not, it ain't going away. only so much a coach can do.

the next argument fans make is why Dooley would change to that in a year so critical to his future? Because the AD agreed he would have more time IMO. doesn't mean things could change as this season plays out on the extra time he needs. that will depend on attendence at games and outcomes of games.
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Thats the only way it makes sense.
 
#94
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gnm53108 said:
Set em up to fail?

Dang...you think Hart is that ruthless?
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Not at all. Dooley didn't fire Wilcox...he left. We would be dealing with a new staff anyway. There are variations in every defense even without a major scheme change. Even if the base defense hadn't changed much, we would still be dealing with a learning curve.

Hart didn't fire Wilcox.
 
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Lexvol said:
...or if the AD has some degree of certainty that he wants his own hire to lead the flagship program of the University.
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i do think the contracts given those new coaches were granted to allow that IF he has to make change this year. He put people there that his "own hire" can live with.
 
#96
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Lexvol said:
Not at all. Dooley didn't fire Wilcox...he left. We would be dealing with a new staff anyway. There are variations in every defense even without a major scheme change. Even if the base defense hadn't changed much, we would still be dealing with a learning curve.

Hart didn't fire Wilcox.
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Gotcha.
 
#97
#97
LWSVOL said:
i do think the contracts given those new coaches were granted to allow that IF he has to make change this year. He put people there that his "own hire" can live with.
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Hmmm....sounds like Hart might have a plan A, B, and C.

Kinda refreshing.
 
#98
#98
Cartervol said:
I imagine this is the case. Still though if after October and they're setting there at 3-5, makes you wonder if that agreement will stay the same.. I'd say they probably thought they'd be a little better off than that.. It still has to happen so it's hypothetical right now...
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I think he would still be okay if he won out in November, was competitive in October as long as the AD is not looking at 25-35K empty seats in November. 7-5 works but empty seats makes it harder to work.
 
#99
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LWSVOL said:
i do think the contracts given those new coaches were granted to allow that IF he has to make change this year. He put people there that his "own hire" can live with.
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It certainly looks that way from the outside.
 
#100
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LWSVOL said:
I think he would still be okay if he won out in November, was competitive in October as long as the AD is not looking at 25-35K empty seats in November. 7-5 works but empty seats makes it harder to work.
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Well 7-5 is a dud of a season with this schedule...
 
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