Rumors of Jimbo Fisher wants the Tennessee Job

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allvol123 said:
Yes, LSU decision makers are the new criteria for great coaches. Lol.

This buffoon lost to Duke. He lost his qb not his starting 22.
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Two of their last 3 hires are Hall of Famers. Yep, just horrible.

Dabo just lost to Syracuse after losing his starting QB. Obviously a buffoon.
 
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allvol123 said:
Yes, LSU decision makers are the new criteria for great coaches. Lol.

This buffoon lost to Duke. He lost his qb not his starting 22.
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Successful college programs don't just throw around $7 million a year willy nilly.

Saban lost to Louisiana-Monroe way back when. Kick him to the curb too I guess. Dabo lost to Syracuse this year. Get rid of him while we're at it.

Your logic is flawed if that's your defense.
 
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TennTom said:
I know I'm not dumb enough to bash a Hall of Fame coach who wins 80% of his games and recruits top 5 classes every year. Is that deep enough for you?
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Just dumb enough to laud the decision making prowess of Joe Alleva.

Insanely stupid.
 
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I wouldn't be opposed to Jimbo. He may have lost a few games, but they look decent. We are getting completely blown out, with very little chance. With Winston at QB, he had things rolling.
 
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Who knows, maybe all the former Vols on the staff want to come home.

It would be a great hire. Unlike Gruden, there may actually be a .01% chance this happens, lol.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Why though? Just saying it doesn't make it so. You have made no case for Gruden as a college coach. And if Jimbo is so average, why was LSU ready to make him the crowned Prince of Baton Rouge last year to the tune of $6.8 mil/yr?

Very few college coaches luck into a National title like you seem to believe JF did. Gene Chizek and Larry Coker are a couple that come to mind in recent history because they stepped in and won with predominantly the previous coach's talent and then fell off. That hasn't been the case for Fisher.
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The number his agent wanted was way over that figure. From what I have heard, which in the past has been reliable - nobody was going to talk to Jimbo without a $100m + package as a starting point. That just gets you to the talking phase. His extension with FSU came fairly soon after all that went down.
Breakdown: Jimbo Fisher’s new contract extension with Florida State - Tomahawk Nation

F Jimbo.
 
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allvol123 said:
Just dumb enough to laud the decision making prowess of Joe Alleva.

Insanely stupid.
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I didn't laud Joe Alleva, you dolt. I said LSU's administration has made good football hires over recent times. By anyone's measure with a brain, hiring Nick Saban and Les Miles back to back was brilliant.

Hiring Orgeron was abysmal, nobody said it wasn't. Alleva's target was Herman and he turned him down. His mistake was not keeping the interim tag on him.

Jeremy Foley hired Champ and Mac. According to your logic, he sucks, despite being in the administration that hired 2 Hall of Famers.
 
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TennTom said:
I didn't laud Joe Alleva, you dolt. I said LSU's administration has made good football hires over recent times. By anyone's measure with a brain, hiring Nick Saban and Les Miles back to back was brilliant.
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The former AD went on the record said they thought Saban was a very risky hire when they made it, he only had one good season at Michigan State.

Hiring Orgeron was abysmal, nobody said it wasn't. Alleva's target was Herman and he turned him down. His mistake was not keeping the interim tag on him.
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This is the #1 reason why ADs should not listen to the fans. Recruits want to know who they are going to be playing for. Coach O is doing a fairly good job I think, LSU has started to pick it up, imo. IMO it would have been far worse this year with Les, the coaching staff is doing well.

Who would you have hired and please explain the math of it?
 
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LSU-SIU said:
The number his agent wanted was way over that figure. From what I have heard, which in the past has been reliable - nobody was going to talk to Jimbo without a $100m + package as a starting point. That just gets you to the talking phase. His extension with FSU came fairly soon after all that went down.
Breakdown: Jimbo Fisher’s new contract extension with Florida State - Tomahawk Nation

F Jimbo.
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No offense to you if that's what you've heard, but I don't buy it for a second to be honest. What you're saying essentially means that LSU offered to make him the 3rd highest paid college coach in America, and he said, "Naw, y'all need to double that offer over 8 years." Basically double Nick Saban's salary for 8 years.

That just doesn't even seem logical.
 
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cncchris33 said:
No offense to you if that's what you've heard, but I don't buy it for a second to be honest. What you're saying essentially means that LSU offered to make him the 3rd highest paid college coach in America, and he said, "Naw, y'all need to double that offer over 8 years." Basically double Nick Saban's salary for 8 years.

That just doesn't even seem logical.
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LSU didn't offer anything as far as I know, his agent wanted a $100m+ package on the table before even Jimbo got in the room - which they would have turned around and asked FSU to counter, which is kind of what they did anyway. The number was probably going to be in the $125-150m range once you get into everything he would have wanted which would have included buyouts with existing personnel on both sides.

That just doesn't even seem logical.]
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The whole thing was insane which is why talks didn't go further.

Interesting enough - LSU's top of the their short list is a combined 6-18 this year Jimbo, Herman and Fedora. Herman probably had the roughest job of them, meaning taking over a new team and he has the best record of the three.

I said last year I thought LSU took the right approach when things with Jimbo and Herman broke down - although the Troy loss is a tough one, I still think Coach O has done decent - LSU doesn't have the meat up front, its going to take a few classes to get it back to where it was. Coach O does not have an easy job right now.
 No way in hell Les would be 6-2 with this personnel right now. I would like to see how the season finishes up, tough one coming up so I would expect LSU to be 6-3 heading into Arkansas, Tennessee and TAM - all of those games are within reach. Coach O needs to finish the season strong or it could get harder for him.

Tennessee does not have an easy job finding a head coach, in that regard, very similar to what LSU was dealing with but I think the options are actually even less than what LSU had on the table. The firing is the easy part. imo
 
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And this is the insanity we bring about every time a coaching search ensues. JMO, but this rumor sounds more outlandish than Bill Belichick leaving New England for Tennessee. Just the details of his buyout would make it near possible to achieve...
 
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LSU-SIU said:
LSU didn't offer anything as far as I know, his agent wanted a $100m+ package on the table before even Jimbo got in the room - which they would have turned around and asked FSU to counter, which is kind of what they did anyway. The number was probably going to be in the $125-150m range once you get into everything he would have wanted which would have included buyouts with existing personnel on both sides.



The whole thing was insane which is why talks didn't go further.

Interesting enough - LSU's top of the their short list is a combined 6-18 this year Jimbo, Herman and Fedora. Herman probably had the roughest job of them, meaning taking over a new team and he has the best record of the three.

I said last year I thought LSU took the right approach when things with Jimbo and Herman broke down - although the Troy loss is a tough one, I still think Coach O has done decent - LSU doesn't have the meat up front, its going to take a few classes to get it back to where it was. Coach O does not have an easy job right now.
 No way in hell Les would be 6-2 with this personnel right now. I would like to see how the season finishes up, tough one coming up so I would expect LSU to be 6-3 heading into Arkansas, Tennessee and TAM - all of those games are within reach. Coach O needs to finish the season strong or it could get harder for him.
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LSU offered Jimbo Fisher $6.8 mil/year as their final offer.

LSU focuses on Houston's Tom Herman after Jimbo Fisher balks at $6.8M per year offer | NOLA.com

The numbers you are throwing out are asinine. No one is paying a coach right now anywhere near what you claim Jimmy Sexton asked for on behalf of Jimbo. That would have been a waste of time for all parties.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
The number his agent wanted was way over that figure. From what I have heard, which in the past has been reliable - nobody was going to talk to Jimbo without a $100m + package as a starting point. That just gets you to the talking phase. His extension with FSU came fairly soon after all that went down.
Breakdown: Jimbo Fisher’s new contract extension with Florida State - Tomahawk Nation

F Jimbo.
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FSU has a smart AD, this clause on buyouts is brilliant. I hope UT does the same:

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Buyout if Fisher leaves: If he elects to leave, Fisher’s buyout is now the sum of all monies remaining on the contracts of his assistant coaches not retained by the university.


So, for example, if Fisher leaves, and the university retains none of ten coaches each making $500,000 on one-year deals, Fisher would owe the school $5M within 30 days. Given that many assistants are employed on two- or three-year contracts, it’s likely that this buyout number could be in the $10-15M range.


The practical impact of this is that it makes it safer for the school to give bigger raises to assistants, without the fear that it will be stuck paying them (or buying them out) if Fisher were to leave."
 
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cncchris33 said:
LSU offered Jimbo Fisher $6.8 mil/year as their final offer.

LSU focuses on Houston's Tom Herman after Jimbo Fisher balks at $6.8M per year offer | NOLA.com

The numbers you are throwing out are asinine. No one is paying a coach right now anywhere near what you claim Jimmy Sexton asked for on behalf of Jimbo. That would have been a waste of time for all parties.
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The figure I had is there was no meeting without $100+ m and 10 years on the table, which Jimbo would have turned around had FSU counter. I believe I even posted it out here shortly after it happened. iirc There really is little incentive for Jimbo to leave unless someone is talking $100m+, his guarantee right now is like $40-50m.:)
 
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Volstylexx said:
FSU has a smart AD, this clause on buyouts is brilliant. I hope UT does the same:
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I seriously doubt Jimbo is going anywhere unless someone has little regard for money (coming up with insane money) or both (FSU/Jimbo) want out of the existing deal.
 
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