Rumor I heard?

[therickbol]

I think there are so many things that go into making someone a successful HC. One of those things is coaching the X's and O's. I think Cut is top caliber when it comes to that department. I think if his success as a HC was based soley on that aspect he would be a great HC. I think another important aspect is recruiting. I do not think Cut is a great recruiter. Average is prob the best "term" for his recruiting ability. And, being an average recruiter at a place as hard to sell as Ole Miss is not a good situation. I dont think its as simplistic as "yes, he is a good coach" or "no, he cant coach." If he surrounded himself with great recruiters it would help.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

...point is, he had one bad year...and was provided no opportunity to right the ship....

sad that the Ole Miss admin and fans have a lower tollerance for failure than our own

 

[Bobby Dodd]

I was told that Tatoo from Fantasy Island would be reanimated and his DNA will be combined with that of Bobby Dodd to create a super pygmy-sized coach who will have 10X the coaching ability of any regular coach due to his ability to see the future.

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Why would anyone want my DNA with Tatoo? I deserve more respect than that.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

:biggrin2:

 

[jakez4ut]

sad that the Ole Miss admin and fans have a lower tollerance for failure than our own

depends on your definition of tollerance....i prefer to think that the Ole Miss admin was, in this instance, particularly dellusional.

 

[utvolpj]

Won't happen. Some are meant for HC and some are meant to be position coaches (but somehow re-find an OC job) While I think Chavis is the best coach we have now, he doesn't seem to have the persona of a HC. With the TV/endorsement $$ flying around these days it means something.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

depends on your definition of tollerance....i prefer to think that the Ole Miss admin was, in this instance, particularly dellusional.

we shall see. Mississippi turns out a heck of a lot more football talent than Tennessee. If Orgeron can stop the bleeding to neighboring states and MissSt and SoutehrMiss stay down for awhile longer, they might get a little powerhouse going down there. Not saying they will, just that it is possible.

 

[VolinArizona]

If the rumor was:

Cutcliffe is guaranteed the HC spot whenever Fulmer steps down to retire, I'd remotely remotely believe it.

As the rumor is stated in the OP, I don't believe it at all.

 

[Jasongivm6]

I have read some Ole Miss posts regarding their take on the Cutcliffe firing. For those who do not know, it goes something like this...Cutcliffe won primarily with Tuberville's players. Other than solidifying Eli's commitment (something they acknowledge was huge), Cut did not recruit very well. Much like Fulmer, Cut did not seem to hire the best available assistants but instead did the "loyalty thing". When you boil it all down, Cut was fired for the following reasons according to Rebs:
(1) Cut does not recruit well;
(2) While Ole Miss did well under most of Cut's leadership, it was not good enough. During Cut's tenure they had a legitimate shot to bring their team into the upper echelon of the SEC West due to the talent that Tuberville left them but that opporutity was squandered (if you really think about this there is some validity to it); and
(3) Cut could not do for Ole Miss what Tuberville did for Auburn. This one seems to be a combination of # (2) and sour grapes about Tubby bailing on them.

I don't care what Vol fans think about this. But, I do solemnly oppose "keeping it in the family" when it comes to hiring an HC, or assistant coaches.

When a team wants to hire a new HC, I think the whole slate needs to be cleaned.

Many of you won't agree with this, but it's my opinion and I'm sticking with it.

A Head Coach should be able to chose who he wants to be his assistants.

 

[Jasongivm6]

IMO Fulmer has his eye on becoming the winnest active coach with 20 years of experience, and wants to stay at least 5-6 more years.

If his health holds up, I could see him wanting to hang on for 15 more years to become the winnest active coach with 30 years, but thats a long ways off, and would put Fulmer coaching into his 70's. Plus the direction the program has been heading, he probably won't have the winning % to do it.

I think Cutcliffe came back to reestablish himself and will take another head coaching job in 2-3 years if things work out at UT.

IMO, the fans, donors, line-up salesmen, bar owners, etc., want us to be a winning program. "Fulmer has his eye on becoming the winningest active coach with 20 years of experience, and wants to stay atleast 5-6 more years????""

The UT program is about US, not Fulmer.

That's definitely a way to lose allegiance, is to say something like that. I couldn't care less who the HC is, as long as he's a great coach and does't say BS like that.

 

[hatvol96]

The UT program is about US, not Fulmer.

Amen.

 

[85Destiny]

I don't think that cutcliffe is being groomed for the next HC and hasn't chavis stated that he doesn't want to be HC anywhere.

 

[hatvol96]

I don't think that cutcliffe is being groomed for the next HC and hasn't chavis stated that he doesn't want to be HC anywhere.

Chavis saying he doesn't want to be a head coach is like Al Gore saying he doesn't want to be President now. It's not like either of them have much choice in the matter.

 

[85Destiny]

Chavis saying he doesn't want to be a head coach is like Al Gore saying he doesn't want to be President now. It's not like either of them have much choice in the matter.

Has interviewed for any hc positions since being on ut's staff?

 

[VolinArizona]

Has interviewed for any hc positions since being on ut's staff?

Um, yes!

How have you missed hat's numerous mentions that Chavis couldn't get East Carolina's job?

 

[85Destiny]

Um, yes!

How have you missed hat's numerous mentions that Chavis couldn't get East Carolina's job?

yeah thanks I can read. let me say it again has he interviewed, not been mentioned as a candidate.

 

[hatvol96]

yeah thanks I can read. let me say it again has he interviewed, not been mentioned as a candidate.

He interviewed at East Carolina and it went miserably. I don't think he's had an interview since that one. If memory serves me correct, he turned down a chance to talk to MTSU once.

 

[85Destiny]

He interviewed at East Carolina and it went miserably.

ok thanks i really couldn't remember.

 

[VolinArizona]

yeah thanks I can read. let me say it again has he interviewed, not been mentioned as a candidate.

Dude, I wasn't being rude. I assumed being a regular here, you would have noticed hat's comments about it. Calm down, seriously.

 

[hatvol96]

ok thanks i really couldn't remember.

I don't want anyone to take my comments about Chavis as criticism of the man. It's just that some guys aren't leading man material. James Woods is a great actor, but he can't carry a movie to a big box office number. Arn Anderson was one of the greatest wrestlers of all time, but he couldn't fill buildings like Ric Flair.

 

[rwemyss]

Before taking the ND job, wouldn't you have said the same about Weis? He was always a coordinator and never a head coach... you don't truly know until a shot is taken at it.

 

[hatvol96]

Before taking the ND job, wouldn't you have said the same about Weis? He was always a coordinator and never a head coach... you don't truly know until a shot is taken at it.

Comparing the coordinator of multiple Super Bowl winners to a college coordinator is like comparing steak au poivre at Prime in Las Vegas to a three day old Krystal cheese.

 

[rwemyss]

Granted, but successful as a coordinator is what it is. Spurrier was such a good college HC that people assumed he'd be at least COMPETENT as an NFL HC... they didn't find out until he gave it a shot...

 

[hatvol96]

Granted, but successful as a coordinator is what it is. Spurrier was such a good college HC that people assumed he'd be at least COMPETENT as an NFL HC... they didn't find out until he gave it a shot...

I can say, with a completely clear conscience, that Spurrier's tenure in the NFL went almost exactly as I expected. The routes he loves so much, for example the post corner, take too long to develop. He failed in the NFL for the same reason he failed against Nebraska and usually failed against FSU. He couldn't protect his QB against defensive speed.

 

[TVTT]

I really like David Cutcliff as the OC, however, because of his previous health problems I would prefer not seeing him as the next UT HC. Coach Cut may be a HC again but I don't believe it will be at Tennessee.