Rumor I heard?

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YAZ

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Keep in mind I am only repeating what I heard from an individual who claims to have a "source."
I have ZERO clue whether this is BS or not. So don't shoot the messenger.

I was told that the only reason Cutcliffe took the OC job at UT was because he was guaranteed the HC position within two years, as Fulmer has accepted an AD job. No details as to where the AD job is.

What do you guys/gals think?
 
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(YAZ @ Jul 24 said:
Keep in mind I am only repeating what I heard from an individual who claims to have a "source."
I have ZERO clue whether this is BS or not. So don't shoot the messenger.

I was told that the only reason Cutcliffe took the OC job at UT was because he was guaranteed the HC position within two years, as Fulmer has accepted an AD job. No details as to where the AD job is.

What do you guys/gals think?
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I am going with BS, but you never know. Where did you find this?
 
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I don't think there is anyone in the athletic department that can really make such a promise, especially after last year.
 
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i heard something similar. i was told that cutcliffe was guaranteed the head coaching job eventually. But my source has been wrong before.
 
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The question isn't if Fulmer leaves, its when. Cutcliffe or Chief seem to be the two most obvious choices in my mind. There is not a former player in a position on the College or Pro Level that I believe would be offered the job in the next 3-5 years. It seems that many programs now are not grooming former players as successors for the HC position like they used to back in the 80's. Its sad really.

 
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I was told that Tatoo from Fantasy Island would be reanimated and his DNA will be combined with that of Bobby Dodd to create a super pygmy-sized coach who will have 10X the coaching ability of any regular coach due to his ability to see the future.


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(therealUT @ Jul 24 said:
If Cut becomes HC at UT, even Hat will be longing for the days of TCHFCATUTK.
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You are correct. The sequel is rarely even as good as the original.
 
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NO...Chavis would be gone if he were passed over for Cut, especially since Cut has proven that he cannot coach all that well on the SEC level.
 
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(therealUT @ Jul 24 said:
NO...Chavis would be gone if he were passed over for Cut, especially since Cut has proven that he cannot coach all that well on the SEC level.
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In Cutcliffe's defense, his 4 years there was the winningest 4 year run Ole Miss has ever had. Or so I've heard. Even so, you're right about Chavis not sticking around.
 
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(therealUT @ Jul 24 said:
NO...Chavis would be gone if he were passed over for Cut, especially since Cut has proven that he cannot coach all that well on the SEC level.
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I would have to disagree. He took a piss poor Ole Miss program out of the dumps and made them a west contender. All he got was fired. So I say he hasn't had a good chance to prove himself as a HC.
 
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(USAF_Vol @ Jul 24 said:
Exactly. Chavis would take a HC job somewhere or NFL.
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I like Chavis. He's a very good coordinator. That said, he's not getting a head coaching job anywhere. He couldn't get the East Carolina job at a time when his stock was as high as it would ever be. Some guys are just made to be the second in command. Chavis is one of those guys.
 
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(bigdaddy @ Jul 24 said:
I would have to disagree. He took a piss poor Ole Miss program out of the dumps and made them a west contender. All he got was fired. So I say he hasn't had a good chance to prove himself as a HC.
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That's a distortion. Tuberville had them on the upswing when he left.
 
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(hatvol96 @ Jul 24 said:
That's a distortion. Tuberville had them on the upswing when he left.
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yes and he was able not only to maintain it at that level but also continue to excell. But we are talkin about ole piss here. Sucess there is by no means sucess here. If DC is HC material for UT, who knows. Like I have said in the past. New Blood would be nice. I just don't want to have to lose to get it.
 
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(kptvol @ Jul 24 said:
In Cutcliffe's defense, his 4 years there was the winningest 4 year run Ole Miss has ever had. Or so I've heard. Even so, you're right about Chavis not sticking around.
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He was there for 6, and in those 6 years Ole Miss posted a .597 winning percentage.
Tuberville posted .565 in 4 years.

John Vaught was definitely more successful in his 23 years at Ole Miss.
 
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(therealUT @ Jul 24 said:
He was there for 6, and in those 6 years Ole Miss posted a .597 winning percentage.
Tuberville posted .565 in 4 years.

John Vaught was definitely more successful in his 23 years at Ole Miss.
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Tuberville did that after inheriting a program that had just run afoul of the NCAA.
 
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(hatvol96 @ Jul 24 said:
Tuberville did that after inheriting a program that had just run afoul of the NCAA.
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True. Plus, Tuberville didn't have one of Cutcliffe's biggest assets, Eli Manning.
 
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IMO, Mike Hamilton would never make such a deal. What if the Vols tank under the guidance of Coach Cut (hypothetically)?

I doubt very seriously that deal has been made. That rumor has surfaced on a number of sports radio programs.
 
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(therealUT @ Jul 24 said:
He was there for 6, and in those 6 years Ole Miss posted a .597 winning percentage.
Tuberville posted .565 in 4 years.

John Vaught was definitely more successful in his 23 years at Ole Miss.
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CUT's record 44-29 being the only ole piss head coach to win 7 games in his 1st 5 seasons. But once again, no way is that acceptable here at UT.
 
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I have read some Ole Miss posts regarding their take on the Cutcliffe firing. For those who do not know, it goes something like this...Cutcliffe won primarily with Tuberville's players. Other than solidifying Eli's commitment (something they acknowledge was huge), Cut did not recruit very well. Much like Fulmer, Cut did not seem to hire the best available assistants but instead did the "loyalty thing". When you boil it all down, Cut was fired for the following reasons according to Rebs:
(1) Cut does not recruit well;
(2) While Ole Miss did well under most of Cut's leadership, it was not good enough. During Cut's tenure they had a legitimate shot to bring their team into the upper echelon of the SEC West due to the talent that Tuberville left them but that opporutity was squandered (if you really think about this there is some validity to it); and
(3) Cut could not do for Ole Miss what Tuberville did for Auburn. This one seems to be a combination of # (2) and sour grapes about Tubby bailing on them.
 
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(therealUT @ Jul 24 said:
He was there for 6, and in those 6 years Ole Miss posted a .597 winning percentage.
Tuberville posted .565 in 4 years.

John Vaught was definitely more successful in his 23 years at Ole Miss.
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I rechecked my info. His put up (at least) seven win seasons his first five years as HC, which no one has ever done at Ole Miss. Obviously, his final year there was his worst. Still there were a few years there were Ole Miss was pretty decent. I don't see Orgeron doing any better, especially if Brent Schaefer doesn't make it to school.
 
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