Ruby suspended indefinitely

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Knoxville Nation said:
Just heard some rumblings about another LadyVol getting in trouble 😳
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Shhĥ... The fact that you know is credibility enough but let someone else blab it.... That way at least the person who told you can keep your confidence.. Plus you give time for verification and also you give the University a chance. to inform if there is something to inform
 
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Coach Jumper said:
Your right but...Shhĥ... The fact that you know is credibility enough but let someone else blab it.... That way at least the person who told you can keep your confidence.. Plus you give time for verification and also you give the University a chance. to inform if there is something to inform
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Well tell us Jumper im sure you know too ........................................................................................😂😂
 
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Knoxville Nation said:
Just heard some rumblings about another LadyVol getting in trouble 😳
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Coach Jumper said:
Your right but...Shhĥ... The fact that you know is credibility enough but let someone else blab it.... That way at least the person who told you can keep your confidence.. Plus you give time for verification and also you give the University a chance. to inform if there is something to inform
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xtpsrh08123 said:
Well tell us Jumper im sure you know too ........................................................................................😂😂
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I told K-Nation he was right (rumblings), there is some "rumblings" (I have heard things too) and I suggested to him/her to give the university time to inform IT if there is something.

I have also learned to keep my mouth shut and let other's reveal information that I can have as much as a week before they reveal it.

I have also learned (via Donald Trump) that there is "fake news" and until it is verified, if you report fake news it hurts your credibility,,So, until I verify not to blab it. All that said, yes I have heard rumblings too involving another player,,,but nothing official and nothing confirmed and until it is,,,
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Coach Jumper said:
I told K-Nation he was right (rumblings), there is some "rumblings" (I have heard things too) and I suggested to him/her to give the university time to inform IT if there is something.

I have also learned to keep my mouth shut and let other's reveal information that I can have as much as a week before they reveal it.

I have also learned (via Donald Trump) that there is "fake news" and until it is verified, if you report fake news it hurts your credibility,,So, until I verify not to blab it. All that said, yes I have heard rumblings too involving another player,,,but nothing official and nothing confirmed and until it is,,,
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Whatever anyone thinks of what Jumper has posted, it's a good reminder for all of us to recognize when it's time for us fans to be supporters and not just consumers of our Vols teams and players. They're real people.

We have only a limited time to invest in each of these young lady's lives--and these days, some for only one year.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
Seems that there are some witnesses that Ruby's lawyer thinks is going to change the entire case in her favor. May just be attorney talk not to long until we find out.
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Her attorney should be talking like that. If not, she's in deep trouble with a terrible attorney
 
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Good call guys....
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mcannon1 said:
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Good news and bad news. Really hoping for ADDITIONAL public statements to clarify the truths in this she said/she said altercation. Fear non disclosure agreements will kick in.

Never understood the basic burglary charge if in fact the only things involved were the recovery of her phone and her passport, neither of which could be in question as to ownership. Can you burgle your own property?

Gotta be some other relevant charge for the forceful intrusion during the recovery.

Also how the other professed robber (if I read right) was not charged if in fact she took them off Ruby or out of her car and fled back in the dwelling,

I will accept Coach’s final ruling and like everybody else read between the lines if that is all we get.
 
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GUNTERSVOL said:
Good news and bad news. Really hoping for ADDITIONAL public statements to clarify the truths in this she said/she said altercation. Fear non disclosure agreements will kick in.

Never understood the basic burglary charge if in fact the only things involved were the recovery of her phone and her passport, neither of which could be in question as to ownership. Can you burgle your own property?

Gotta be some other relevant charge for the forceful intrusion during the recovery.

Also how the other professed robber (if I read right) was not charged if in fact she took them off Ruby or out of her car and fled back in the dwelling,

I will accept Coach’s final ruling and like everybody else read between the lines if that is all we get.
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Well, we are not likely to get any more definitive info, after a plea deal.

Once again, to understand these charges, you can't rely on a common sense understanding of what constitutes burglary. Google on Tennesse's legal codes for aggravated burglary and domestic assault and you will see how the charges fit.

Heck, I will do it for you:
  • (a)A person commits burglary who, without the effective consent of the property owner:
    • (1) Enters a building other than a habitation, or any portion of the building, not open to the public, with intent to commit a felony, theft, or assault;
    • (2) Remains concealed, with the intent to commit a felony, theft, or assault, in a building;
    • (3) Enters a building and commits or attempts to commit a felony, theft, or assault; or
    • (4) Enters any freight or passenger car, automobile, truck, trailer, boat, airplane, or other motor vehicle with intent to commit a felony, theft, or assault or commits or attempts to commit a felony, theft, or assault.
  • (b)As used in this section, "enter" means:
    • (1) Intrusion of any part of the body; or
    • (2) Intrusion of any object in physical contact with the body or any object controlled by remote control, electronic or otherwise.

Legal codes are not written on a tit for tat basis. If I claim you took my property, I do not suddenly gain a a legal right to chase after you, break down doors of the building into which you have fled and threaten you. That is just not how laws are written. I know, you really want that to be the law because it seems "fair" but it just isn't (See above).

A plea deal indicates that both sides (prosecution and defense) were happy to avoid the costs and risks of a trial. There was ambiguity, as per the conflicting statements given by Ruby and the alleged victim, and who knows how it would have played out in court. But, Ruby clearly had some culpability based on the available evidence and so going to trial posed a real risk of conviction plus drawing the legal proceedings out for a much longer time frame. The plea deal gives her a clean slate after one year and she can now go on with her life (and basketball career/NIL deal).

The positive resolution is all that matters.
 
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madtownvol said:
Well, we are not get any more definitive info, after a plea deal.

Once again, to understand these charges, you can't rely on a common sense understanding of what constitutes burglary. Google on Tennesse's legal codes for aggravated burglary and domestic assault and you will see how the charges fit.

Heck, I will do it for you:
  • (a)A person commits burglary who, without the effective consent of the property owner:
    • (1) Enters a building other than a habitation, or any portion of the building, not open to the public, with intent to commit a felony, theft, or assault;
    • (2) Remains concealed, with the intent to commit a felony, theft, or assault, in a building;
    • (3) Enters a building and commits or attempts to commit a felony, theft, or assault; or
    • (4) Enters any freight or passenger car, automobile, truck, trailer, boat, airplane, or other motor vehicle with intent to commit a felony, theft, or assault or commits or attempts to commit a felony, theft, or assault.
  • (b)As used in this section, "enter" means:
    • (1) Intrusion of any part of the body; or
    • (2) Intrusion of any object in physical contact with the body or any object controlled by remote control, electronic or otherwise.

Legal codes are not written on a tit for tat basis. If I claim you took my property, I do not suddenly gain a a legal right to chase after you, break down doors of the building into which you have fled and threaten you. That is just not how laws are written. I know, you really want that to be the law because it seems "fair" but it just isn't (See above).

A plea deal indicates that both sides (prosecution and defense) were happy to avoid the costs and risks of a trial. There was ambiguity, as per the conflicting statements given by Ruby and the alleged victim, and who knows how it would have played out in court. But, Ruby clearly had some culpability based on the available evidence and so going to trial posed a real risk of conviction plus drawing the legal proceedings out for a much longer time frame. The plea deal gives her a clean slate after one year and she can go on with her life (and basketball career/NIL deal).

The positive resolution is all that matters.
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It appears that they could not support that she entered to commit a FELONY THEFT or ASSULT, only to recover her stolen goods and both got involved in physical contact so this conditional agreement was reached to cover the doors.

Bet Coach did get more input than what has been publicly shared, referenced by her attorneys, but not entered into proceedings and will Coach speak it into her dispensation of justice.
 
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