Ruby suspended indefinitely

#26
#26
Crap, this would indicate to me that the university has investigated internally and determined that there was some wrongdoing on Ruby's part.
No, there has not been a change in her status at all. It is university policy that any athlete is suspended from team activities while they have an active felony charge. Once it gets taken care of, she will be reinstated immediately.

I’m really not sure why this was a story today, the reporter that asked for the comment knows the UT policy, this was just to write a story to get clicks. Disappointing.
 
#34
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Crap, this would indicate to me that the university has investigated internally and determined that there was some wrongdoing on Ruby's part.
You know what they say about ASSumptions.

Eventually we will find out where Ruby was and when and how her phone and passport came into the other parties possession.
 
#36
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Tank caught a felony charge in football season -- no suspension. TN's investigation determined he did nothing to warrant a suspension. He later pleaded to a lesser charge, but still a felony. I expected this to go the same way with Ruby, but it seems like UT's investigation determined she did something worthy of a suspension. Ruby, I expected to get downgraded from felony Aggravated Burglary to misdemeanor Criminal Trespass (a nothing burger). Worried now that I was wrong.

Much speculation on my part here.
Tank pleaded guilty to misdemeanor simple assault, not a felony.
 
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Tank caught a felony charge in football season -- no suspension. TN's investigation determined he did nothing to warrant a suspension. He later pleaded to a lesser charge, but still a felony. I expected this to go the same way with Ruby, but it seems like UT's investigation determined she did something worthy of a suspension. Ruby, I expected to get downgraded from felony Aggravated Burglary to misdemeanor Criminal Trespass (a nothing burger). Worried now that I was wrong.

Much speculation on my part here.
Written speculation is assumptions on steroids.
 
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Written speculation is assumptions on steroids.

Let me get this right. Your proposal is that we all participate on this board with absolutely no written speculation or assumptions? Come on G, you've been here a minute.

I actually find that if you lay out your reasoning along with your speculation in a neutral way, others can correct you with better information. Then, you have learned something new and received value. Post number 26 in this thread is an excellent example of this. DP12 provided interesting info that I did not previously know. That is why I love participating on this board.
 
#44
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Let me get this right. Your proposal is that we all participate on this board with absolutely no written speculation or assumptions? Come on G, you've been here a minute.

I actually find that if you lay out your reasoning along with your speculation in a neutral way, others can correct you with better information. Then, you have learned something new and received value. Post number 26 in this thread is an excellent example of this. DP12 provided interesting info that I did not previously know. That is why I love participating on this board.
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#45
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I find that when I talk about people I don't know as if they were someone I do know... I tend to do and say the right things. Certainly better things.

What has proven--50 years later--to be the most impactful, life-changing thing I learned in college was this simple statement from a Christian professor: "The cashier is not an extension of the cash register."

We tend to meld people to their roles and titles (and headlines) until we deal with them only as a function, not as a person just like us. It's challenging to attempt to do that consistently (especially from behind an avatar). But people notice, and it makes a positive difference all around.
 
#46
#46
Let me get this right. Your proposal is that we all participate on this board with absolutely no written speculation or assumptions? Come on G, you've been here a minute.

I actually find that if you lay out your reasoning along with your speculation in a neutral way, others can correct you with better information. Then, you have learned something new and received value. Post number 26 in this thread is an excellent example of this. DP12 provided interesting info that I did not previously know. That is why I love participating on this board.
If and when it is open minded speculation, there may be some value add, but if it leans toward a singular direction it needs some factual basis.

Too many statements and not enough questions in search of a more complete truth before applying judgement is not a strong character move and open to challenge. Additional facts could prove out Ruby’s status was the result of admins review of expanded facts, until then just arrogantly deducing that is also character challenging. Pl

I really want to know how if both sides said the other party stole her phone and passport outside and retreated into her residence that she was not charged with those crimes or if charged it was not equally publicized in the report. Too much head scratching issues still out there for me.

Did I miss something in this thread or otherwise that clarified this fuzz? It could be out there. Stole stuff is bad, kicking doors down is bad. Is property damage really more egregious than theft? IF IF IF that is the fact set? Was it only a one sided cat fight?
 
#47
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Stole stuff is bad, kicking doors down is bad. Is property damage really more egregious than theft? IF IF IF that is the fact set? Was it only a one sided cat fight?

In my opinion an anger-fueled outburst that results in property damage is far worse than grabbing someone's phone and taking off running with it. Anyone who could have been standing on the other side of doors that were kicked in, or near the bedroom mirror that was broken, and that person very well might have been bodily injured. Thank God bodily injury didn't happen, otherwise Ruby would be in even deeper doo-doo than she is.

The false equivalency folks are trying to draw with these two offenses is kinda ridiculous, IMO.
 
#48
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In my opinion an anger-fueled outburst that results in property damage is far worse than grabbing someone's phone and taking off running with it. Anyone who could have been standing on the other side of doors that were kicked in, or near the bedroom mirror that was broken, and that person very well might have been bodily injured. Thank God bodily injury didn't happen, otherwise Ruby would be in even deeper doo-doo than she is.

The false equivalency folks are trying to draw with these two offenses is kinda ridiculous, IMO.
Or more simply still, two wrongs don't make a right.....
 
#49
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In my opinion an anger-fueled outburst that results in property damage is far worse than grabbing someone's phone and taking off running with it. Anyone who could have been standing on the other side of doors that were kicked in, or near the bedroom mirror that was broken, and that person very well might have been bodily injured. Thank God bodily injury didn't happen, otherwise Ruby would be in even deeper doo-doo than she is.

The false equivalency folks are trying to draw with these two offenses is kinda ridiculous, IMO.
IF Ruby was leaving (my understanding) and the other person came and took HER phone AND HER passport in an emotional state, why would anyone not have fear that she would also destroy one or both if given time. These items are not equivalent to clothing or jewelry. Equivalence or not, the lack of charges against the other person, maybe because they were recovered, needs an explanation if not a justification. Just don’t know chasing down a fleeing theif should not be a mitigating factor.
 
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