Ruby Arrested……

#126
#126
37620VOL said:
You're faith in the efficiency of the police to retrieve your essential personal items from thieves is adorable.

They would file a report. Maybe get a search warrant in two weeks. Not find crap. Let you work it out in civil court. I've literally seen this happen.
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Maybe so, but STILL... It makes zero sense to resort to extremes over a damn phone or ID. Zero. None.

Also, lots of times people have fights and get over them in a day or two. The "victim" may have given it back to her in a couple of hours. Or the next day. Who knows?

Hate it for Ruby that she is somewhere wondering if her career as a Lady Vol is over because of a phone and an ID.
 
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Fletcher3g said:
It looks like both parties acted irresponsibly and Lady Vols Basketball comes out of it with a black eye.
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Nah. If this is a one-off event, it will be forgotten pretty quickly. College football is ramping up and this story will fall out of the news cycle very fast.

I would bet this case gets settled without going to court, where Ruby pleads to a lesser charge, does community service and takes an anger management course and probably gets suspended for a few early season games. Not ideal by any stretch but let's not make more of this situation than it really is.
 
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DarkPhoenix said:
According to the report, Ruby was leaving and the girl came outside and started a fight with her, stole her phone and ID and ran back into the house and locked the doors. Why isn’t Ruby the victim? Is it because she broke the door to get her property back that was stolen from her?
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So the other girl can be charged with theft (if the evidence supports that) and Ruby has be charged with Breaking & Entering, Property Damage, ect. Which is pretty much known by all parties. It doesn't matter why Ruby broke the law, only that She did. You call the Cops, and let them handle it, you don't bust through doors and damage property.
 
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#132
DeerPark12 said:
AJ wasn't "proven innocent." They dropped the charges because they did not believe they could secure a conviction. Those are very different things.
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He had a trial . Does “acquitted“ or “not guilty” equate to proven innocent? Not a lawyer, semantics….

“ On February 12, 2015, Johnson and Williams were both officially indicted on two counts of aggravated rape by a grand jury.[12]
On July 27, 2018, Johnson and Williams were acquitted of all charges.[11]” A. J. Johnson (linebacker) - Wikipedia


  1. www.espn.com.ico

    ESPN
    https://www.espn.com › college-football › story › _ › id › 24212927 › ex-tennessee-volunteers-aj-johnson-michael-williams-acquitted-rape-charges

    Ex-Vols A.J. Johnson, Michael Williams acquitted on rape charges​

    Two former University of Tennessee football players indicted on aggravated rape charges more than three years ago have been acquitted


  2. WBIR.com
    https://www.wbir.com › article › news › local › defense-rests-cases-in-rape-trial-for-two-former-ut-football-players › 51-577938363

    Two former UT football players found not guilty on all counts in rape trial​

    In the rape trial for two UT football players, A.J. Johnson and Michael Williams have been found not guilty on all counts.

 
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#133
Ruby Made The Tabloids

Tennessee star Ruby Whitehorn Arrested For Domestic Violence and Burglary After 'kicking victim's door in'​


Tennessee women's basketball star Ruby Whitehorn was arrested on Friday on charges of aggravated burglary and domestic assault, according to a report.

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Women's college basketball star arrested for domestic violence

A Tennessee women's basketball star was arrested on Friday on charges of aggravated burglary and domestic assault, according to a report.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
 
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Smallvol#1 said:
He had a trial . Does “acquitted“ or “not guilty” equate to proven innocent? Not a lawyer, semantics….

“ On February 12, 2015, Johnson and Williams were both officially indicted on two counts of aggravated rape by a grand jury.[12]
On July 27, 2018, Johnson and Williams were acquitted of all charges.[11]” A. J. Johnson (linebacker) - Wikipedia


  1. www.espn.com.ico

    ESPN
    https://www.espn.com › college-football › story › _ › id › 24212927 › ex-tennessee-volunteers-aj-johnson-michael-williams-acquitted-rape-charges

    Ex-Vols A.J. Johnson, Michael Williams acquitted on rape charges​

    Two former University of Tennessee football players indicted on aggravated rape charges more than three years ago have been acquitted


  2. WBIR.com
    https://www.wbir.com › article › news › local › defense-rests-cases-in-rape-trial-for-two-former-ut-football-players › 51-577938363

    Two former UT football players found not guilty on all counts in rape trial​

    In the rape trial for two UT football players, A.J. Johnson and Michael Williams have been found not guilty on all counts.

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Well no. It does not.
 
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#138
Smallvol#1 said:
Does “acquitted“ or “not guilty” equate to proven innocent? Not a lawyer, semantics…
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Definitely not a lawyer. Neither am I. But “proven innocent” is not a phrase in our legal system.

The judge’s charge to the jury is to decide one of two options: Guilty or Not Guilty. Innocent, is not an option.
 
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Smallvol#1 said:
He had a trial . Does “acquitted“ or “not guilty” equate to proven innocent? Not a lawyer, semantics….

“ On February 12, 2015, Johnson and Williams were both officially indicted on two counts of aggravated rape by a grand jury.[12]
On July 27, 2018, Johnson and Williams were acquitted of all charges.[11]” A. J. Johnson (linebacker) - Wikipedia


  1. www.espn.com.ico

    ESPN
    https://www.espn.com › college-football › story › _ › id › 24212927 › ex-tennessee-volunteers-aj-johnson-michael-williams-acquitted-rape-charges

    Ex-Vols A.J. Johnson, Michael Williams acquitted on rape charges​

    Two former University of Tennessee football players indicted on aggravated rape charges more than three years ago have been acquitted


  2. WBIR.com
    https://www.wbir.com › article › news › local › defense-rests-cases-in-rape-trial-for-two-former-ut-football-players › 51-577938363

    Two former UT football players found not guilty on all counts in rape trial​

    In the rape trial for two UT football players, A.J. Johnson and Michael Williams have been found not guilty on all counts.
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SmallVol,it’s wonderful to get your input once again. I have greatly missed seeing your knowledgeable posts. I know you stopped posting as much because of all the arguing and mudslinging oh the board, but your input has always been appreciated. Sending you hugs and prayers for you and your family!
 
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FrozenLVFan said:
Do college students commonly carry their passports with them these days? As opposed to a student ID card?
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Probably depends on if she had been traveling and has a real ID. Passport is acceptable to the gov in lieu of a real ID, so I know I have been carrying mine even though I know that isnt ideal.
 
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OmahaOmaha said:
So the other girl can be charged with theft (if the evidence supports that) and Ruby has be charged with Breaking & Entering, Property Damage, ect. Which is pretty much known by all parties. It doesn't matter why Ruby broke the law, only that She did. You call the Cops, and let them handle it, you don't bust through doors and damage property.
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Handle it the right way, and it doesn’t make the news and put Tennessee in the spotlight. Simple rule as a player, don’t embarrass the University.
 
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vols 30 said:
Y'all way to easy and forgiving. If she was a Gator or Wildcat, then it would be kick her off the team or the laughing emoji.

I have no sympathy for people who put themselves in this spot
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But she is one of ours. You can’t only care about them when times are good. Don’t turn your back on her now.
 
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#145
Such a nothing story. The only consistent detail between their two stories is that the victim stole her phone. The victim was able to record footage from within the home but was confused about which phone she grabbed outside? Right. No injuries reported or visually noticed for either party. Congrats to the KPD for getting this on the global tabloids and the front page of ESPN though.
 
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#146
If I am reading correctly, how could the police not arrest the other party if she in fact took Ruby’s property and went into her residence? It SEEMS that is an agreed upon fact set.

Another world class better wait for a more complete fact set before putting one’s own rational thought processes and integrity on the line situation. Some have seriously put their’s on that line. Can’t put those bullets back in the gun either.
 
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#147
GUNTERSVOL said:
If I am reading correctly, how could the police not arrest the other party if she in fact took Ruby’s property and went into her residence? It SEEMS that is an agreed upon fact set.

Another world class better wait for a more complete fact set before putting one’s own rational thought processes and integrity on the line situation. Some have seriously put their’s on that line. Can’t put those bullets back in the gun either.
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The cops can't simply take Ruby's word for what happened. Investigations reveal evidence. The break-in was clear evidence; hence the arrest.
 
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chuckiepoo said:
Definitely not a lawyer. Neither am I. But “proven innocent” is not a phrase in our legal system.

The judge’s charge to the jury is to decide one of two options: Guilty or Not Guilty. Innocent, is not an option.
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Very interesting point. And as we well know, smart lawyers are able to get a lot of guilty defendants a "Not Guilty" verdict.
 
#149
#149
Franklin Pierce said:
Ruby Made The Tabloids

Tennessee star Ruby Whitehorn Arrested For Domestic Violence and Burglary After 'kicking victim's door in'​


Tennessee women's basketball star Ruby Whitehorn was arrested on Friday on charges of aggravated burglary and domestic assault, according to a report.

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www.dailymail.co.uk

Women's college basketball star arrested for domestic violence

A Tennessee women's basketball star was arrested on Friday on charges of aggravated burglary and domestic assault, according to a report.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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"Whitehorn has been a three-year starter for the Tennessee Lady Vols basketball team"

chat, is this true?

Shows how slow the US Sports news is during the summer for them to be reporting on off-season collegiate WBB in the UK.
 
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FrozenLVFan said:
Do college students commonly carry their passports with them these days? As opposed to a student ID card?
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UT Student ID cards are digital now, so they’re not valid for identification in the real world, only on campus.

A lot of people carry their Passport in today’s climate of aggressive immigration enforcement.
 
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