RTL Stats After 3 Games - Current Roster - Comments?

#101
#101
SeniorDrill said:
EASILY DONE, MY FRIEND! First off you conveniently said an average 10% increase when it was 8.3% difference. You will notice that those who played the most during the regular season had the least difference. McRae's was 1%, Hubbs was 4%, and Richardson was 8%. That's an average difference of 4%. You take the three highest, those who played the least except for Thompson who never showed anything and the stats get inflated. Like the three highest average difference is 12%. Let's cut the real difference of 8.3% in half due to the fact that the 3 point line is 1 foot closer in the high school gym which comes out about 4%. To me that says uncontested 3 point shots are roughly the same whether in the RTL or the SEC unless you got nerves involved which you may not have in the RTL. Lot of factors to consider, huh? Since you like to bet so much, what you bet that Mostella and Punter don't do exactly in the SEC what the do in the RTL except maybe for a few % points difference with the 3?
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Well done my friend. While I disagree with your entire premise of the value of RTL, you actually make a compelling argument that's backed up with some solid analysis. It's not about whether you're right or wrong, it's how well you argue the point.
 
#102
#102
I don't know what y'all are talking about. After reviewing these stats, the way I see it, the Vols are gonna average 252 points per game this year!!
 
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SeniorDrill said:
EASILY DONE, MY FRIEND! First off you conveniently said an average 10% increase when it was 8.3% difference. You will notice that those who played the most during the regular season had the least difference. McRae's was 1%, Hubbs was 4%, and Richardson was 8%.
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Hubbs played more than Thompson?

That's interesting, although it would explain these crazy thoughts you're coming up with, because clearly you were watching a different team.
 
#104
#104
SeniorDrill said:
Since you like to bet so much, what you bet that Mostella and Punter don't do exactly in the SEC what the do in the RTL except maybe for a few % points difference with the 3?
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So Punter is gonna average 45ppg and 39% from 3?

And

Mostella is gonna average 36ppg and 41% from 3?



I will gladly take that bet that those 2 guys won't match those numbers lmao
 
#106
#106
SeniorDrill said:
You always have outliers in a statistical analysis. Thompson was a dud.
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I'm sorry you don't like what the stats show so you want to dismiss a player, how about Moore? People were trying to say that because he's shooting 38% this year in the RTL it's some great sign, he shot that same percentage in the RTL last year as well, then struggled in NCAA.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
So Punter is gonna average 45ppg and 39% from 3?
And Mostella is gonna average 36ppg and 41% from 3?
I will gladly take that bet that those 2 guys won't match those numbers lmao
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And I am LMAO that you think that is what i said. Actually chuckling to myself. You are quite good at embellishing what was actually said to the point of being ridiculous. All i was betting was that Punter and Mostella will shoot the 3 very well in the SEC. How do we know that? From their performance WHERE? I do hope you were not serious and just being silly. Actually trying to make me look silly!
 
#109
#109
SeniorDrill said:
Do you also think the Spring football game is a glorified practice??
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You just ended your own argument.

SeniorDrill, we can tell you're a smart dude but damn man you are too hard headed. The Rocky Top League is absolutely nothing more than a glorified pick up game with a bunch of good talent. Honestly if the COACH says it doesn't indicate anything how on earth can you still think it does? All you can take from it would be, the players show flashy moves and the potential to score in different ways.
 
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MannyD said:
Well done my friend. While I disagree with your entire premise of the value of RTL, you actually make a compelling argument that's backed up with some solid analysis. It's not about whether you're right or wrong, it's how well you argue the point.
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You know my whole argument has been that the RTL is not worthless. You could list a 100 reasons why it is not. For people to come on here and say it is when these young men are busting their tails to impress the fans is offensive to me. I really don't know why they don't think some of the players follow this dialogue especially in the summer. Such talk certainly does not boost their morale. Morale is extremely important in training. Especially when good training can be the difference between life and death not whether or not a 3 point shot goes in.
 
#111
#111
SeniorDrill said:
And I am LMAO that you think that is what i said. Actually chuckling to myself. You are quite good at embellishing what was actually said to the point of being ridiculous. All i was betting was that Punter and Mostella will shoot the 3 very well in the SEC. How do we know that? From their performance WHERE? I do hope you were not serious and just being silly. Actually trying to make me look silly!
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What's very well?

40%+

I'll take that bet all day
 
#112
#112
Coaches I have known would just as soon not even have a spring football game. That's how meaningless it is to them. They only care about practice and time they actually spend coaching them.

As fans, we can appreciate the chance to watch the guys play when the season isn't going, but it's nothing more than that and just basic conditioning from running up and down the court.

I take no meaning from any stat because they haven't ever remotely translated over into actual collegiate basketball. If they did, we'd win the NCAA title every season.
 
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Stoked It's the RTL so the stats are VERY inflated - so they are meaningless. tnvols72 Those stats are useless. The last thing they play is Def.rickyb12 Agree.CAVol It's glorified pick up.
bleedingTnOrange Here's some numbers from last year that should tell you just how much you can take from the RTL...They start trying to play defense in the last 5 minutes, and even then it's poor. UTFanForLife As for the new guys, will let you know how athletic they are, that's about it.
Quaint88 Is that goal regulation size or what?
VolArmy74 averaged something like 47 ppg in the RTL when it started, you know those numbers are useless.Lefteye Cause I don't put any stock in the stats of this league either. Does the fact that literally nobody on this board agrees with the amount of weight you are putting on the Rocky Top league not tell you something Daniel85 Guys its nothin but a glorified practice Vols30 Everyone realizes that, but one.
 
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#114
You know my whole argument has been that the RTL is not worthless. You could list a 100 reasons why it is not. For people to come on here and say it is when these young men are busting their tails to impress the fans is offensive to me. I really don't know why they don't think some of the players follow this dialogue especially in the summer. Such talk certainly does not boost their morale. Morale is extremely important in training. Especially when good training can be the difference between life and death not whether or not a 3 point shot goes in.
 
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#115
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SeniorDrill said:
You know my whole argument has been that the RTL is not worthless. You could list a 100 reasons why it is not. For people to come on here and say it is when these young men are busting their tails to impress the fans is offensive to me. I really don't know why they don't think some of the players follow this dialogue especially in the summer. Such talk certainly does not boost their morale. Morale is extremely important in training. Especially when good training can be the difference between life and death not whether or not a 3 point shot goes in.
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I can't figure out if you deliberately take things out of context or what, but people aren't saying that RTL is worthless, or at least not until they are goaded beyond endurance by your posts. :banghead2:

What they are saying is that it is pointless to take stats, playing time, or anything else from RTL and use them to say "and therefore" such and such will happen this winter. RTL is for fun, for the players and for the fans. They players get to play without the pressure and scrutiny (except from you) that they get in the regular season and with a cheerful disregard for most defense. The fans get to yell "Whoa!!!" a lot.

Do you genuinely not see this, or instead is it so important to you that you win this latest internet war that you deliberately refuse to see it?

RTL is to SEC as Harlem Globetrotters are to NBA. Lots of fun, lots of chances to make some flashy plays, an entertaining way to kill some time before the real thing.

btw, there was no necessity to put your whole freakin' post in bold.
 
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VolNExile said:
I can't figure out if you deliberately take things out of context or what, but people aren't saying that RTL is worthless, or at least not until they are goaded beyond endurance by your posts. :banghead2:

What they are saying is that it is pointless to take stats, playing time, or anything else from RTL and use them to say "and therefore" such and such will happen this winter. RTL is for fun, for the players and for the fans. They players get to play without the pressure and scrutiny (except from you) that they get in the regular season and with a cheerful disregard for most defense. The fans get to yell "Whoa!!!" a lot.

Do you genuinely not see this, or instead is it so important to you that you win this latest internet war that you deliberately refuse to see it?

RTL is to SEC as Harlem Globetrotters are to NBA. Lots of fun, lots of chances to make some flashy plays, an entertaining way to kill some time before the real thing.

btw, there was no necessity to put your whole freakin' post in bold.
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I am convinced that Senior Drill is LebanonVolunteer's basketball forum screen name.
 
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#119
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iKrager said:
He argues the wrong battles with the wrong points but is a knowledgable person.
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I was kidding. I do question his actual knowledge of the bigger picture perspective though. One of those, "Can't see the forest for the trees," mentalities.
 
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VolNExile said:
RTL is to SEC as Harlem Globetrotters are to NBA. Lots of fun, lots of chances to make some flashy plays, an entertaining way to kill some time before the real thing.

btw, there was no necessity to put your whole freakin' post in bold.
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This^^^ Globetrotters ref was great. Would also like to use as an example while playing at Milligan I played in summer leagues with guys at ETSU and scored 30+ was it because I was on the level of those guys? No, it was because up until maybe the last two minutes of every game the only thing everyone of the floor is looking to do is get a break away dunk or shoot a 3. There's no D played in these things and it's nothing and I mean nothing like playing a real game.
 
#124
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creekerballer said:
This^^^ Globetrotters ref was great. Would also like to use as an example while playing at Milligan I played in summer leagues with guys at ETSU and scored 30+ was it because I was on the level of those guys? No, it was because up until maybe the last two minutes of every game the only thing everyone of the floor is looking to do is get a break away dunk or shoot a 3. There's no D played in these things and it's nothing and I mean nothing like playing a real game.
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The original globetrotters could beat some NBA teams.
 
#125
#125
Guys, here's the deal. We have 8 new players that are having their first experience with Tennessee in general and Tennessee fans in specific. Most of them if not all of them have not had a chance to play in a big college summer league like the RTL. It is their first chance to perform in front of Tennessee fans and it means a lot to them. I am sure they flood to anything that has anything at all written about them including VolNation. All I'm saying is that you need to tone it down. Whether you believe it or not those statistics mean something to them and they are looking to you for support not saying they mean nothing more than an outdoor pickup game. Take the individual players and draw something positive from the first real evidence that they can put the ball in the hoop and tell them as much. It was probably a major shock to some of them to read some of this stuff when they were expecting much more from the fans. They are here to restore Tennessee basketball to its glory days. Let them know you appreciate it. There is no room for negativity before the season even starts.
 
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