RPI Discussion.

#52
#52
A & M came back and beat So Car. That would've been a bad loss at home. Ole Miss and LSU in a battle.
 
#55
#55
BruinVol said:
Why would we want ole miss to win??

I suspected a better road win was what we needed
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I don't think LSU is gonna be top 50 RPI, if they aren't they may as well trip up and not be a team battling us for a bid.

I do see your side though, if LSU goes on a run it makes our win look better.

Jmo
 
#56
#56
We get Ole Miss at home. We've already beaten LSU on the road. A good road win boosts your RPI big time. I'd rather LSU keep winning provided we beat Ole Miss at home.
 
#57
#57
bleedingTNorange said:
I don't think LSU is gonna be top 50 RPI, if they aren't they may as well trip up and not be a team battling us for a bid.

I do see your side though, if LSU goes on a run it makes our win look better.

Jmo
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Ole miss is below Lsu at 85rpi.

I am not following your logic here.
 
#58
#58
BruinVol said:
Ole miss is below Lsu at 85rpi.

I am not following your logic here.
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What don't you follow?

IMO neither is gonna be top 50 RPI.

Right now LSU is closer to contending with us for a bid than OM. If OM knocks them off, much like Arkansas last night, I feel like LSU may be near the edge of completely falling off the bubble.
 
#60
#60
bleedingTNorange said:
What don't you follow?

IMO neither is gonna be top 50 RPI.

Right now LSU is closer to contending with us for a bid than OM. If OM knocks them off, much like Arkansas last night, I feel like LSU may be near the edge of completely falling off the bubble.
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Now I follow.

You want Lsu to lose because they might compete for an NCAA bid and not about Rpi.

IMO if it comes down to us and Lsu we have already broken that tie. Not worried about them taking our spot at all
 
#61
#61
What's better for us????

The SEC to have::::

Option 1:
1 top 10 Rpi team
1 other top 25 RPI team
2 other top 50 Rpi teams
And all the rest outside of the top 75

OR

Option 2:
1 top 10 team

And 7teams 40-75 in the Rpi



The point of the question is do we need a league that shows serious parity or one that shows a clear group separated at the top and hoping teams like mizzu don't lose at vandy is our best case scenario.
 
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#62
#62
BruinVol said:
What's better for us????

The SEC to have::::

Option 1:
1 top 10 Rpi team
1 other top 25 RPI team
2 other top 50 Rpi teams
And all the rest outside of the top 75

OR

Option 2:
1 top 10 team

And 7teams 40-75 in the Rpi



The point of the question is do we need a league that shows serious parity or one that shows a clear group separated at the top and hoping teams like mizzu don't lose at vandy is our best case scenario.
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Best things for us is for Florida, Auburn, A&M, Misssouri and Vanderbilt to be as good as possible, because we play them each twice.
 
#63
#63
bleedingTNorange said:
Best things for us is for Florida, Auburn, A&M, Misssouri and Vanderbilt to be as good as possible, because we play them each twice.
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I hear you if Rpi is most important.

I don't think Rpi is going to be a problem for us getting in.

We are in a perfect storm with our opponents winning it seems. Even utep had a good road won last night at mtsu.

Our potential problem is having enough quality wins. That's why IMO mizzu, Lsu, or potentially arkansas having strong years getting into the top 50 appears to me to more important than auburn or vandy having a better Rpi.
 
#64
#64
BruinVol said:
I hear you if Rpi is most important.

I don't think Rpi is going to be a problem for us getting in.

We are in a perfect storm with our opponents winning it seems. Even utep had a good road won last night at mtsu.

Our potential problem is having enough quality wins. That's why IMO mizzu, Lsu, or potentially arkansas having strong years getting into the top 50 appears to me to more important than auburn or vandy having a better Rpi.
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I just don't get why you're so stuck on the having to add a few more quality wins thing. I gave you the Oklahoma example from last year who iirc had 2 quality wins and got in as a 10 seed.

We've got 3 more opportunities at least for quality wins, and 4 if you're counting Arkansas which right now is projected to be top 50. That's plenty of opportunities IMO, to me it's more important we avoid bad losses than gain good wins.
 
#65
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bleedingTNorange said:
I just don't get why you're so stuck on the having to add a few more quality wins thing. I gave you the Oklahoma example from last year who iirc had 2 quality wins and got in as a 10 seed.

We've got 3 more opportunities at least for quality wins, and 4 if you're counting Arkansas which right now is projected to be top 50. That's plenty of opportunities IMO, to me it's more important we avoid bad losses than gain good wins.
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My worry is if we go 0-3 in those opportunities. If we do we desperatly need arkansas or mizzu to surge.

You keep hanging your hat on Oklahoma. Can you show that similar resumes get in with ease year in and year out??

I don't think so
 
#66
#66
BruinVol said:
My worry is if we go 0-3 in those opportunities. If we do we desperatly need arkansas or mizzu to surge.

You keep hanging your hat on Oklahoma. Can you show that similar resumes get in with ease year in and year out??

I don't think so
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Can you show me they don't?

Can you find me multiple examples of a high major with a top 45 RPI and 2+ quality wins getting left out multiple times?

I don't think so.
 
#67
#67
Looking at Oklahoma last year they had a huge top 5 win against Kansas.

We won't have that if we go 0-2 against florida.

They had only one bad loss against tcu. We will be similar unless we slip up and lose to auburn or miss state.

They had 3 quality wins if you count winning at Baylor(55rpi).

We will be very similar to that as well.

RPIS will be close as they were 44.

The big separator to me is there late season win against a top 5 team. We won't have that
 
#68
#68
BruinVol said:
Looking at Oklahoma last year they had huge top 10 win against Kansas.

We won't have that if we go 0-2 against florida.

They had only one bad loss against tcu. We will be similar unless we slip up and lose to auburn or miss state.

They had 3 quality wins if you count winning at Baylor(55rpi).

We will be very similar to that as well.

RPIS will be close as they were 44.

The big separator to me is there late season win against a top 5 team. We won't have that
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And like I said before, they got in pretty easily, it wasn't like they were sweating it out on Selection Sunday.

The easiest way to just decide in/out is RPI, high majors get in with a RPI of 45 or better, it's that simple typically. Avoid bad losses, finish 11-7 or better, and our RPI is in a position to be 45 or better.
 
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#69
#69
Cincy was the best Rpi to get left out of the major conference at 40rpi in 2006.

Not finding much more about others left out with RPIS between 40-50.

I would be curious to know
 
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BruinVol said:
Cincy was the best Rpi to get left out of the major conference at 40rpi in 2006.

Not finding much more about others left out with RPIS between 40-50.

I would be curious to know
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Right, and that was also before the field expanded to 68. So that's why I'm saying, you can basically say, RPI of 45 or better we are in. You can stretch it really to 50 or better, but that starts to get a little foggy.
 
#71
#71
bleedingTNorange said:
Right, and that was also before the field expanded to 68. So that's why I'm saying, you can basically say, RPI of 45 or better we are in. You can stretch it really to 50 or better, but that starts to get a little foggy.
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I am not doubting the top 45 is a great indicator.

Just don't see the other parts being good enough.

Like I said a few days ago it looks like we might find out as this team is likely to underachieve and get 10-12 wins IMO
 
#72
#72
BruinVol said:
I am not doubting the top 45 is a great indicator.

Just don't see the other parts being good enough.

Like I said a few days ago it looks like we might find out as this team is likely to underachieve and get 10-12 wins IMO
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So you're saying 2 quality wins and a RPI of 45 or better and we are left out in your opinion?
 
#74
#74
BruinVol said:
Yes but

Rpi without another top 50 win will likely be at or higher than 45 anyways(with 11 regular season SEC wins)
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So you're saying we will be the 2nd high major in 8 years, and 1st high major since the expansion to be left out with a RPI of 45 or better? Bold statement.

RPI with 11 wins will be borderline and would almost certainly become dependent on the SECT and our matchups.
 
#75
#75
I don't think it matters where some of these other SEC teams end up. If we beat Mizzou once, Arkansas, and then beat the teams we are supposed to beat, then we are in. Mizzou and Arkansas aren't great wins, but they are solid wins. Unless they collapse, they will hover between 50-75 RPI. Arkansas has a tough schedule- play UK, Mizzou, and LSU twice.
 
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