Roster Depletion

[sjt18]

While I don't like the character or lack of loyalty exhibited by the last staff, there is no question in my mind that they know football. O is a first rate DL coach. Monte is on a different plane of existence as a DC.

Walls was going to RS but they decided he was ready to play and pulled it. Remember he came in late after some question about eligibility so he was really behind the 8 ball. He caught up while basically getting scout team reps.

I don't know where needed depth will come from. However I think Hughes and Walls have the potential to be one of the best DT tandems UT has ever had. I just hope a lack of depth doesn't cause one or both to get injured.

 

[Volunteeer]

if Hughes can play consistently this year, he never showed that last year.

I don't think it will increase likelihood of injury, but it will mean that, even if they can find two more to play the position, that in the 4th, we are going to get run over, around, and through.

While I don't like the character or lack of loyalty exhibited by the last staff, there is no question in my mind that they know football. O is a first rate DL coach. Monte is on a different plane of existence as a DC.

Walls was going to RS but they decided he was ready to play and pulled it. Remember he came in late after some question about eligibility so he was really behind the 8 ball. He caught up while basically getting scout team reps.

I don't know where needed depth will come from. However I think Hughes and Walls have the potential to be one of the best DT tandems UT has ever had. I just hope a lack of depth doesn't cause one or both to get injured.

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[sjt18]

Fatigue produces injuries along with a lack of conditioning. That's a big reason UT seems to have been bitten so hard by the injury bug over the last 3 years or so. Both staffs had to keep the same guys in.

You're right about getting run over but don't discount the effect fatigue has on injuries.

Right now, Walls, Hughes, Sykes, and Jeffery are it. They're young but three of them look like they have great talent. I'm just not sure about Sykes. I wish he would turn it on but his career thus far (both at JUCO and at UT) doesn't inspire confidence.

 

[Volunteeer]

agree about the fatigue. Even with those guys their going to have to move an end inside and get creative. Four end rush on long third downs. Three man line with an end coming from lb position or two lbs going. Something.

Fatigue produces injuries along with a lack of conditioning. That's a big reason UT seems to have been bitten so hard by the injury bug over the last 3 years or so. Both staffs had to keep the same guys in.

You're right about getting run over but don't discount the effect fatigue has on injuries.

Right now, Walls, Hughes, Sykes, and Jeffery are it. They're young but three of them look like they have great talent. I'm just not sure about Sykes. I wish he would turn it on but his career thus far (both at JUCO and at UT) doesn't inspire confidence.

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[NashVol11]

If the coaching staff is as good as some hope and nowhere near as bad as some complain... and if they can grab some quality OL's/DT's from the JUCO ranks next year then UT isn't that far off. The skill position guys brought in over the last couple of years should be primed by then.

However, the comparison to what Saban did isn't quite fair. Saban's starting point was better than Dooley's. I would make the case that Saban's first year was a gross underachievement record wise. The counter argument would be that he was breaking eggs... force feeding his way onto the team in a way that has paid dividends since.

Of course it was. He was a first-year head coach. I've tried to get a lot of people to note Saban's first season when judging Kiffin's, but most here just won't realize it until Kiffin wins a title (and some will make excuses even then).

 

[Jefffromjax]

Well we will have no senior DT's this year so if we can land a few Juco DT's this year and then a few talented freshman I think our depth issue could be fixed in one year!

Everyone can always come up with an exception, but on the whole, Juco players seldom pan out in the SEC & true FR typically lack the strength to contribute on either OL or DL.

For Juco linemen, it typically takes at least 1 year to get them strong enough to play, learn system, etc & then you're lucky to get 1 year of backup play from them.

UF has signed two Juco DT's over the last three years & both have been a bust. There is a reason they went Juco out of HS.

Of the last five or six Juco players at UF, S Reggie Nelson was the only one to make an impact & poor academics shortened his career.

 

[Kevinyaheard]

We won't compete until we have very good lines. We won't have that next year.
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+1

 

[99gator]

Sounds like a shotgun approach is what works? What Larry's numbers don't say is how many left the school after it became obvious they'd never play there... that would be a positive thing for the program. I have to say that 50% of UF's 08 class is pretty amazing though. That could suggest a bigger hole in their talent pool than I thought they had.

i don't know where those numbers were run, but i looked up the florida's 2008 class.

they did sign 22. only 1 is gone......due to graduation (juco player, troy epps, graduated in 2009)

the rest of florida's 2008 class is still at florida.

 

[LWSVOL]

i don't know where those numbers were run, but i looked up the florida's 2008 class.

they did sign 22. only 1 is gone......due to graduation (juco player, troy epps, graduated in 2009)

the rest of florida's 2008 class is still at florida.

I've not been back to catch that error but that was a HUGE error.. it is now corrected and there is only 1 player fmro 2008 class gone.. boy, what a mistake...

 

[Volunteeer]

I've not been back to catch that error but that was a HUGE error.. it is now corrected and there is only 1 player fmro 2008 class gone.. boy, what a mistake...

Interesting numbers. There's so many factors that affect attrition, I'm not sure what I can gleen from them. One thing I see. The recruiting classes on the roster when lsu, fla, and al won the championships all contain at least two top 10 ranked classes where if you average it out, they lost no more than 30% of thoses classes. On the surface, it seems there is a huge difference between losing 30% and say 38%. What does that mean? That in a class of 25 kids, the difference between good and not so good is missing on two or three guys. 8%-10%=approx. 2-3 out of 25.
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